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October 06, 2016, 04:42:26 AM
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I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

maybe you should check out the project first and then give your opinion against it.

this browser is not for paying to visit sites or even getting paid to visit sites. it is one of the smallest features it is offering.

the main focus is on blocking all the ads and unwanted scripts that may be running in the background automatically.

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October 06, 2016, 04:54:46 AM
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I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

maybe you should check out the project first and then give your opinion against it.

this browser is not for paying to visit sites or even getting paid to visit sites. it is one of the smallest features it is offering.

the main focus is on blocking all the ads and unwanted scripts that may be running in the background automatically.

brave's main focus is to block sites while still paying webmasters.. BUT
USERS wont focus on paying to block ads.. theres other tools that do that for free.
USERS will focus on getting paid by clicking as many adverts or viewing as many adverts available.

this is why brave needs to really work on making it sustainable otherwise it will get abused by USERS

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October 06, 2016, 04:58:42 AM
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Can someone confirm payment from this 'brave' browser? Did I understand good that trey are paying us just to use that browser?
This is something new, how much we can earn from this, and I wonder how this works, do we need to open browser and just stay it opened and there is something from that for us.
I will wait someone else to try this and verify all this about payments, I don't know would I use browser like this one, but this sounds like interesting idea, if it's proven successful I would try it also.



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October 06, 2016, 05:00:03 AM
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I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

maybe you should check out the project first and then give your opinion against it.

this browser is not for paying to visit sites or even getting paid to visit sites. it is one of the smallest features it is offering.

the main focus is on blocking all the ads and unwanted scripts that may be running in the background automatically.

brave's main focus is to block sites while still paying webmasters.. BUT
USERS wont focus on paying to block ads.. theres other tools that do that for free.
USERS will focus on getting paid by clicking as many adverts or viewing as many adverts available.

this is why brave needs to really work on making it sustainable otherwise it will get abused by USERS

yeah, everything that has money in it will be abused and there is no exception and i am sure developers of brave browser are well aware of this.

and i am also sure this is why the "users getting paid to watch ads" is not released and there is no talk about it on the website either.

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October 06, 2016, 05:20:35 AM
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i don't understand.
the main goal of a browser is to see internet ... and block ADs.
I thought Brave was supposed to show you different kind to ADS, a specially prepared king by browser itself.

And then you would earn money by browsing sites with these Ads. If that is the other way around and you can tip sites you like - it is far less interesting.

its a matter of monopoly i guess. they're the ones who wants to earn money stead of those publishers. while they also earn from the advertisers who seem to want to connect with them.  brave browser acts like an adnetwork.

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October 06, 2016, 06:02:06 AM
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i think this browser is both good and bad!

it is a really good project since good developers are working on it and the effort they are putting in blocking ads and the increasing of safety.

but at the same time when money gets involved there will be a lot of problems.
the abuses that is going to happen which was mentioned above is one of them. the other thing that i found out is that brave Inc is taking 5% cut of everything which they say it is to pay for infrastructure costs (whatever that means)!

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October 06, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
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I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

maybe you should check out the project first and then give your opinion against it.

this browser is not for paying to visit sites or even getting paid to visit sites. it is one of the smallest features it is offering.

the main focus is on blocking all the ads and unwanted scripts that may be running in the background automatically.

brave's main focus is to block sites while still paying webmasters.. BUT
USERS wont focus on paying to block ads.. theres other tools that do that for free.
USERS will focus on getting paid by clicking as many adverts or viewing as many adverts available.

this is why brave needs to really work on making it sustainable otherwise it will get abused by USERS

I gave the browser a try yesterday night and apparently only the option of depositing money to give away to websites is available at the moment. There isn't a hint of users getting back some revenue from watching 'safe' ads or at least I couldn't find any. I don't think anyone would prefer the Brave browser over a 'normal' browser like Firefox or Chrome etc. Clicking all day on ads in a sub-par browsing experience just to earn a few Satoshis doesn't look attractive to me. Also if users don't want to pay money to the websites the rewards for viewing the sponsored ads will be even lower, right?
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October 06, 2016, 07:31:37 AM
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so they are promoting advertisements and we have to watch ads to get paid. in our busy life we don't have such time to spend in viewing. but it's a good step from those who are simply wasting time by passing addicted games like clash of clans, mini militia and lots more to mmention instead of playing games they could do little bit to earn some money by their own.
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October 06, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
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so they are promoting advertisements and we have to watch ads to get paid. in our busy life we don't have such time to spend in viewing. but it's a good step from those who are simply wasting time by passing addicted games like clash of clans, mini militia and lots more to mmention instead of playing games they could do little bit to earn some money by their own.

it is not a job to earn money and you should stop thinking of it as one.
first of all there is not payment to users who watch the ads in the current version of brave browser.
second of all a lot of people are already visiting many sites which have lots of ads on them like the one tiny ad on top of this page or 10 ads on different bitcoin news sites, so you can get a share of their revenue if you visit the sites without ad block, maybe in the future.

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October 06, 2016, 07:53:40 AM
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I don't find it interesting and I am afraid that this project will fail hard,who will pay only to be able to browse without ads when he can use a better browser + Adblock for free?Only a few people will do it just to show their support the rest will install it and try to earn a few satoshi using it.

maybe you should check out the project first and then give your opinion against it.

this browser is not for paying to visit sites or even getting paid to visit sites. it is one of the smallest features it is offering.

the main focus is on blocking all the ads and unwanted scripts that may be running in the background automatically.

brave's main focus is to block sites while still paying webmasters.. BUT
USERS wont focus on paying to block ads.. theres other tools that do that for free.
USERS will focus on getting paid by clicking as many adverts or viewing as many adverts available.

this is why brave needs to really work on making it sustainable otherwise it will get abused by USERS

I gave the browser a try yesterday night and apparently only the option of depositing money to give away to websites is available at the moment. There isn't a hint of users getting back some revenue from watching 'safe' ads or at least I couldn't find any. I don't think anyone would prefer the Brave browser over a 'normal' browser like Firefox or Chrome etc. Clicking all day on ads in a sub-par browsing experience just to earn a few Satoshis doesn't look attractive to me. Also if users don't want to pay money to the websites the rewards for viewing the sponsored ads will be even lower, right?
This has already been mentioned in the thread, I'll post the links again. And I think the goal of this browser is to have an ad free experience and reward the websites by giving them donations.

So I would guess that the focus is on providing you with a built in adblocker that's not resource intensive, while also supporting publishers.
Revenue sharing with users is NOT yet implemented

https://blog.brave.com/introducing-brave-payments/
https://www.brave.com/Payments_FAQ.html

User 'Pursuer' has already posted this in this on page 2 of this thread. (Not going to quote since it would be a wall of text + image)


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October 06, 2016, 07:57:15 AM
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It is an interesting idea to implemented bitcoin into paid browser, I do hope this project can continue and expand, the more bitcoin user the more stable price we got, hopefully it dont slowing the internet connection that we have and contents of the ads is informative
well i guess it will not affect your internet connection but more likely will make the page that you will access just a little bit heavier just as the same when you're disabling your adblock and you found ads,don't think will be more than 200kb additional size for each page

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October 06, 2016, 08:04:00 AM
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I guess the browser will also integrate with micropayment solutions like SatoshiPay, which will let webmasters create premium content which only costs a fraction of a cent.
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October 06, 2016, 08:08:52 AM
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https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/10/04/brave-browser-starts-paying-bitcoins-to-adblocked-sites/

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An integrated Bitcoin payment system will handle payments, putting bitcoins into your wallet if you’ve agreed to see ads and taking them out if you’ve opted to have them blocked.

The fees Brave Software takes in from advertisers will go into one pot. The publishers get the lion’s share – 55% – weighted by how many ad impressions are served on their sites.

What’s left over gets divvied up between Brave, its ad-matching partners, and the users, with each getting 15%.

If users don’t opt to take their 15%, then the publishers will get 70%.


Anyone using Brave and can verify this? Have they indeed started paying users, or publishers only? I only use android version, which doesn't yet support btc payments.



I just read about it in their website but i could not find any statement talking about paying the users, but it just says about users funding websites to support them, and i think that does not make any sense at all, it is just about paying money to the websites you might want to support which i feel no one would like to do.
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October 06, 2016, 06:53:54 PM
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That's a good idea. I'm using ad blocker because alots of advertisement I see are not relevant to my interest and overall seeing that much advertisement everywhere's stressful for my mind, but if I get payment for them, that helps my mind to calm down Smiley
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October 06, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
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I believe, brave is going to be a game changer in the long run.
Nope, not a chance. It already is too muddy about what it wants to be, originally it was an adblocking browser that if you turned on non intrusive ads it paid you. Now it is a browser that you pay to block ads.
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October 06, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
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I believe, brave is going to be a game changer in the long run.
Nope, not a chance. It already is too muddy about what it wants to be, originally it was an adblocking browser that if you turned on non intrusive ads it paid you. Now it is a browser that you pay to block ads.
maybe they haven't not earned that much when the advertisers don't use non intrusive ads and so no one pays. but why use brave browser instead when we could use firefox without paying to block ads there are plugins which blocks them for free.


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October 07, 2016, 01:29:13 AM
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I believe, brave is going to be a game changer in the long run.
Nope, not a chance. It already is too muddy about what it wants to be, originally it was an adblocking browser that if you turned on non intrusive ads it paid you. Now it is a browser that you pay to block ads.
maybe they haven't not earned that much when the advertisers don't use non intrusive ads and so no one pays. but why use brave browser instead when we could use firefox without paying to block ads there are plugins which blocks them for free.


Most websites (like Forbes) dont allow you to access them if you have ad-blocker enabled.
It cuts into their advertising revenue.
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October 07, 2016, 03:06:11 AM
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There are so many adblockers out there already and they are for free.
Why would I pay for just a trivial problem anyway.

I have a suggestion instead.
Why don't you make it the other way around?
Pay us for viewing ads through the browser instead.
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October 07, 2016, 05:02:03 AM
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Basically paying sites to not show ads, instead of using an adblocker, which effectively kills sites.

Nope.

Adblocker is more efficient and cheap. Brave Wil be a flop.


 
 
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October 07, 2016, 06:45:14 AM
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How it works? The publishers have to sign in or what?

It's looks like a "every site is a faucet"... A bit strange, well, something new and different, let's see what happen with this in future...
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