Duterte net satisfaction rate in Philippines is very good...

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If the US can chose a side between China and Philippines they should have done it but the cowards can't. And this isn't propaganda as you thought. US can't win vs China.

The US did choose a side.  Are you lying intentionally or just extremely ignorant?   

Game changer: America vs China in the West Philippine Sea
October 28, 2015
http://www.rappler.com/thought-leaders/110843-america-china-west-philippine-sea

After hesitating for years, the United States has finally decided to openly challenge China in the West Philippine Sea, deploying destroyers into the 12 nautical miles radius of Chinese-occupied land features in the area.

Given the massive power asymmetry between China and its smaller neighbors, only the United States has the wherewithal to challenge Beijing’s unremitting quest for maritime dominance in East Asia. And to the delight of its Asian allies, particularly the Philippines and Japan, the Obama administration is finally drawing a line in the sand

Like never before, America is directly challenging China’s sovereignty claims in the area, even if this carries the risk of heightened Sino-American tensions ahead of the APEC and ASEAN summits next month, if not potential clashes between American and Chinese armed forces. No less than the future of the Asian order hangs in the balance.

Refusing to acknowledge China’s sovereignty claims over artificially-created islands in the area, the United States Navy’s (USN) guided-missile destroyer (USS Lassen) has pierced into the 12 nautical miles radius of Beijing-occupied land features on a regular basis

On paper, the United States professes neutrality on the sovereignty claims of competing claimant states in the South China Sea. But its recent decision to conduct freedom of navigations operations – deploying surveillance vessels and possibly even reconnaissance aircrafts – within the 12 nautical miles radius of China’s artificially-created islands represents a de facto rebuke of China’s territorial claims in the area.

But don't worry, the US will keep .ph safe so you and Duterte may continue to be ungrateful traitorous murderous pieces of shit.

The US is decades ahead of China in strategic weaponry.  Any serious escalation in the West Philippine Sea would result in the PLA getting rekt beyond recovery.

Even the Butchers of Beijing are not so stupid as to cause their 10,000 year old civilization to be burned into moonscape by a brief moment of nuclear hellfire.  The US Navy can do that with one carrier strike group.  Do you even know what the 7th Fleet is, bro?

https://www.quora.com/How-powerful-is-a-US-Navy-carrier-strike-group-compared-to-other-navies

How powerful is a US Navy carrier strike group compared to other navies?
I heard that a deployed CSG is more powerful than most (or maybe all) other countries entire navies. Is this true? How would one measure this?

Kirish Raj, Information Security Analyst by profession. Military & Foreign Policy watcher.
Written 16 Jul 2014

The first thing to understand about U.S. aircraft carriers is that they are very big and very well defended.  They displace ~100,000 tons of water, making them the biggest warships ever constructed, and their four-acre decks hold dozens of multi-role fighters superior to anything operated by Russia/China’s air force or navy.  They typically are escorted by cruisers or destroyers carrying the Aegis combat system — the world’s most sophisticated air defense system — and nuclear-powered attack submarines.  Since the carriers themselves are nuclear-powered, they are always moving and unconstrained by logistical needs.

Loring Chien
Loring Chien, engineer, technologist and naval enthusiast
Written Nov 19, 2014

China, India are just beginning to play with carriers - they are in a developmental stage and not capable of on-demand performance for delivering strategic air power.
 
Given then that only the US, Russia and maybe France could deliver nuclear weapons via CSG then that answers the question, is a USN CSG more powerful than MOST other countries' entire navy and the answer is yes.

Given that the USN operational performance levels are probably higher than and we have 10 strategic carriers vs one for France and one for Russia, its also true that the USN CSG is at least as powerful as any other navy if not more so.

Let me clarify your statement duterte is not a traitor in his country. He is just rebalancing the situation because there is a fire between whats going on the America and China. So in that case he is careful of what hes on his feelings from the US. Remember what he said in his previous statement. "AMERICA WILL UNDERSTAND" It seems that he is confusing on which side he chose.

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US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

[Caladonian]

US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

I think what President Duterte's decisions are carefully thought of. He loves the Philippines so much that he will not do anything that will put his beloved country to peril.

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US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

It is easy to say that men when impact that US want us to become their mendicants forever. Why? Because of money. Money is their using to get what theyre want to puppet the government of the Philiplines. So do you know what is real happening in the country? It is useless to have money like if it will corrupt to those bastard official.

[iCEBREAKER]

US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

I still can't tell if you are intentionally dishonest or just very stupid.   

Either way, you ignore the existence of the Asiatic Fleet, the purpose of which was to defend the Philippines.

The United States Asiatic Fleet was a fleet of the United States Navy during much of the first half of the 20th century. Preceding the World War II era, until 1942, the fleet protected the Philippine Islands. Much of the fleet was destroyed by February of that year, after which it was dissolved and incorporated into the naval component of the Southwest Pacific Area command, which eventually became the 7th Fleet.

How many more thousands of Americans must die defending and liberating the Philippines before you are satisfied we are willing to die for that cause?  How many more millions of American taxpayer dollars must be spent before you display a hint of gratitude? 

No agreement defense between the US and .ph?  Who you kidding, you ignorant prig?

Go back to school you whining crybaby.

Southeast Asia Treaty Organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization

The Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) was an international organization for collective defense in Southeast Asia created by the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, or Manila Pact, signed in September 1954 in Manila, Philippines. The formal institution of SEATO was established on 19 February 1955 at a meeting of treaty partners in Bangkok, Thailand [1] The organization's headquarters were also in Bangkok. Eight members joined the organization.

Primarily created to block further communist gains in Southeast Asia, SEATO is generally considered a failure because internal conflict and dispute hindered general use of the SEATO military; however, SEATO-funded cultural and educational programs left long-standing effects in Southeast Asia. SEATO was dissolved on 30 June 1977 after many members lost interest and withdrew.

The United States still considers the mutual defense aspects of its treaty active for Australia, France, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, and the United Kingdom.

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US didn't chose a side at all. Any agreement between US and Philippines never mention anything about fighting to defend us. They are all vague and no one is willing to die for us and thise military excercises are just crazy shit. The US sold us some planes without missles, military excercises allow us to use US weapons but were never given to Us. Ain't that shit?

West ph sea is our to burn.

I still can't tell if you are intentionally dishonest or just very stupid.   

Either way, you ignore the existence of the Asiatic Fleet, the purpose of which was to defend the Philippines.

The United States Asiatic Fleet was a fleet of the United States Navy during much of the first half of the 20th century. Preceding the World War II era, until 1942, the fleet protected the Philippine Islands. Much of the fleet was destroyed by February of that year, after which it was dissolved and incorporated into the naval component of the Southwest Pacific Area command, which eventually became the 7th Fleet.

How many more thousands of Americans must die defending and liberating the Philippines before you are satisfied we are willing to die for that cause?  How many more millions of American taxpayer dollars must be spent before you display a hint of gratitude? 

No agreement defense between the US and .ph?  Who you kidding, you ignorant prig?

Go back to school you whining crybaby.

Southeast Asia Treaty Organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia_Treaty_Organization

The Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO) was an international organization for collective defense in Southeast Asia created by the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, or Manila Pact, signed in September 1954 in Manila, Philippines. The formal institution of SEATO was established on 19 February 1955 at a meeting of treaty partners in Bangkok, Thailand [1] The organization's headquarters were also in Bangkok. Eight members joined the organization.

Primarily created to block further communist gains in Southeast Asia, SEATO is generally considered a failure because internal conflict and dispute hindered general use of the SEATO military; however, SEATO-funded cultural and educational programs left long-standing effects in Southeast Asia. SEATO was dissolved on 30 June 1977 after many members lost interest and withdrew.

The United States still considers the mutual defense aspects of its treaty active for Australia, France, New Zealand, Philippines, Thailand, and the United Kingdom.

That ain't real. Its best presented to mediamen. Look however stupid you can be not to comprehend what we are experiencing, you may never understood it.

But Granted that US is indeed keeping their promise to fight for us and If US is willing to die for us, they would have aggressively taking scarborough shoal for the PH but NOOooo. US instead tend to give advice to Aquino to declare war to China, what could have happen if we go war against China?

What we do want instead is to see US do actions and maybe eve before the Chinese created those facilities there in scarborough.

But anyway, if one like you are stupid to understand it then i guess its worth leaving US without an ally here in Southeast.

[iCEBREAKER]

That ain't real. Its best presented to mediamen. Look however stupid you can be not to comprehend what we are experiencing, you may never understood it.

But Granted that US is indeed keeping their promise to fight for us and If US is willing to die for us, they would have aggressively taking scarborough shoal for the PH but NOOooo. US instead tend to give advice to Aquino to declare war to China, what could have happen if we go war against China?

What we do want instead is to see US do actions and maybe eve before the Chinese created those facilities there in scarborough.

But anyway, if one like you are stupid to understand it then i guess its worth leaving US without an ally here in Southeast.

SEATO isn't real?  The 7th Fleet isn't real?  LMFAO.

Then how did they send the USS Decatur into areas claimed by Red China, and make the Butchers of Beijing raise a fuss about that?

I guess this picture is fake; I guess the USS Decatur "ain't real."   

I figured it out.  You are delusional, not just dishonest and/or ignorant.  Better cut back on the shabu!   

Sorry, but the USA isn't going to start WW3 over Scarborough Shoal without exhausting every other possible solution.

I understand you have very high time preferences, being very impatient and wanting everything Right Now.

But that's not how Anglo Saxon culture works.  We have low time preferences, which is why we are superior and run things the way we see fit, no matter the whining from the primitive headhunting natives.

And don't worry about the USA being "without an ally here in Southeast."

Despite past conflict, we are getting very friendly with Vietnam, a nation that knows what it's like to fight the PLA (AND WIN!).

Perhaps that's a lesson the fat, lazy ingrates in .ph need to learn for themselves....

[electronicash]

That ain't real. Its best presented to mediamen. Look however stupid you can be not to comprehend what we are experiencing, you may never understood it.

But Granted that US is indeed keeping their promise to fight for us and If US is willing to die for us, they would have aggressively taking scarborough shoal for the PH but NOOooo. US instead tend to give advice to Aquino to declare war to China, what could have happen if we go war against China?

What we do want instead is to see US do actions and maybe eve before the Chinese created those facilities there in scarborough.

But anyway, if one like you are stupid to understand it then i guess its worth leaving US without an ally here in Southeast.

SEATO isn't real?  The 7th Fleet isn't real?  LMFAO.

Then how did they send the USS Decatur into areas claimed by Red China, and make the Butchers of Beijing raise a fuss about that?

I guess this picture is fake; I guess the USS Decatur "ain't real."  

I figured it out.  You are delusional, not just dishonest and/or ignorant.  Better cut back on the shabu!  

Sorry, but the USA isn't going to start WW3 over Scarborough Shoal without exhausting every other possible solution.

I understand you have very high time preferences, being very impatient and wanting everything Right Now.

But that's not how Anglo Saxon culture works.  We have low time preferences, which is why we are superior and run things the way we see fit, no matter the whining from the primitive headhunting natives.

And don't worry about the USA being "without an ally here in Southeast."

Despite past conflict, we are getting very friendly with Vietnam, a nation that knows what it's like to fight the PLA (AND WIN!).

Perhaps that's a lesson the fat, lazy ingrates in .ph need to learn for themselves....

US can't start a war over scarborough but they can start with jsut a hunch whether saddam has weapon - great analysis over there.
but yeah watever floats your bowl. you can kiss ass to those who won over the vietkong war so yes bow down vietsuckers!

[iCEBREAKER]

US can't start a war over scarborough but they can start with jsut a hunch whether saddam has weapon - great analysis over there.
but yeah watever floats your bowl. you can kiss ass to those who won over the vietkong war so yes bow down vietsuckers!

Stop changing topics for the sake of getting in your bitchy little digs.  Iraq is not Red China.  Only one has nukes and a huge army.  Duh.

We needed a UN ruling *before* we can "start a war over scarborough."  Duh!

Vietnamese people are awesome.  They've overcome their communist past (unlike .ph who just elected a panda cuddling PLA ass kisser).

They work hard and save for the future (again, unlike lazy ass Flips who would rather party and gossip on social media all day).

Plus Vietnamese have shown they are great patriotic fighters who will destroy invaders whether from the US or Red China.

And best of all, they love gold and silver (soon, Bitcoin and Monero too).

They are too smart to trust central bankers (unlike Flips who love free shit courtesy of wealthy Uncle Sam's money printing).

Average Vietnamese IQ is over 100.  Average Flip IQ is under 100.

I'd rather be allies with both, but if the stupid country insists on being the next Tibet...Well, Bye!

Enjoy your cultural holocaust.  I know I will!   

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US can't start a war over scarborough but they can start with jsut a hunch whether saddam has weapon - great analysis over there.
but yeah watever floats your bowl. you can kiss ass to those who won over the vietkong war so yes bow down vietsuckers!

Stop changing topics for the sake of getting in your bitchy little digs.  Iraq is not Red China.  Only one has nukes and a huge army.  Duh.

We needed a UN ruling *before* we can "start a war over scarborough."  Duh!

Vietnamese people are awesome.  They've overcome their communist past (unlike .ph who just elected a panda cuddling PLA ass kisser).

They work hard and save for the future (again, unlike lazy ass Flips who would rather party and gossip on social media all day).

Plus Vietnamese have shown they are great patriotic fighters who will destroy invaders whether from the US or Red China.

And best of all, they love gold and silver (soon, Bitcoin and Monero too).

They are too smart to trust central bankers (unlike Flips who love free shit courtesy of wealthy Uncle Sam's money printing).

Average Vietnamese IQ is over 100.  Average Flip IQ is under 100.

I'd rather be allies with both, but if the stupid country insists on being the next Tibet...Well, Bye!

Enjoy your cultural holocaust.  I know I will!   

You cant accept the truth that US is the one who creates war all over the world. They are not national police in the world but they creates terrorism that benefits by their own wealth. They are money grabber of someones natural resources. So it is better to take off this US to the Philippines to no more harm.

[Fortify]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

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The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

We are not wishing for we are independent. Our president creates independent foreign policy so we are pro US nor pro China. We are Pro Filipino. Take that in your head. The president is going to China to have peace talk in WPS and creates friendship and business, that no more string attach. No more aid our president dies not accept Aid because other country bullying as. Business is his state visit.

[Xenophoto]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

Just another high ranked member of this forum who obviously have no idea of what he is saying. Americans are only treating us good because of the resources that they get from our country. But they never promised that they will protect us when there's a war. Duterte chose China and Russia to avoid war and to improve our economy, not to become it's bitch. Just take a look at America's economy and you'll be shocked by the amount of debt that they have. SMH.

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It is all because he do what he said before.  Before the election during the campaign period he promised the war on drug and that what is he doing right now.  All what he said before all became reality.  That is why there is no wonder why his trust rating is so high.  Filipinos hunger for a leader that feels and knows how it feels to be poor.  

[Vinz24]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

Just another high ranked member of this forum who obviously have no idea of what he is saying. Americans are only treating us good because of the resources that they get from our country. But they never promised that they will protect us when there's a war. Duterte chose China and Russia to avoid war and to improve our economy, not to become it's bitch. Just take a look at America's economy and you'll be shocked by the amount of debt that they have. SMH.

Yeah I believe you, he just chose china because for the benefit of our economy. Duterte is just avoiding war between US and Russia. He do believe that we are the first target kf the war break out soon.

[Sponsoredby15]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

Just another high ranked member of this forum who obviously have no idea of what he is saying. Americans are only treating us good because of the resources that they get from our country. But they never promised that they will protect us when there's a war. Duterte chose China and Russia to avoid war and to improve our economy, not to become it's bitch. Just take a look at America's economy and you'll be shocked by the amount of debt that they have. SMH.

Yeah I believe you, he just chose china because for the benefit of our economy. Duterte is just avoiding war between US and Russia. He do believe that we are the first target kf the war break out soon.

Yes look what happen to the middle east. They kill assad, gaddafi and sadam to get the natural resources there oil, gold and etc. I am happy that duterte is very a talkative person so we knew now if there is a danger in our country. I wish that duterte never fail in his legacy and continue this in the future.

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You cant accept the truth that US is the one who creates war all over the world. They are not national police in the world but they creates terrorism that benefits by their own wealth. They are money grabber of someones natural resources. So it is better to take off this US to the Philippines to no more harm.

Ron Paul guy here.  I accept the truth that the US creates war all over the world.   

I hate our aggressive foreign policy.  We had/have no business in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, etc.

But we are not the only "one" creating war.

We didn't force Russia to invade Georgia and Crimea, nor did we force Red China to invade Tibet and India.

And China is the relevant entity here, because they are annexing territory from .ph and all Duterte does about it is kiss their ass more.

The US did not grab any natural resources from .ph.  It is Red China that is grabbing "fishing grounds" that happen to have billions in oil underneath the water.

But by all means, have it your way.  Just don't say you weren't warned when Red China renames .ph "New Hainan."   

[iCEBREAKER]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

Just another high ranked member of this forum who obviously have no idea of what he is saying. Americans are only treating us good because of the resources that they get from our country. But they never promised that they will protect us when there's a war. Duterte chose China and Russia to avoid war and to improve our economy, not to become it's bitch. Just take a look at America's economy and you'll be shocked by the amount of debt that they have. SMH.

Oh sure, the grass is always greener on the other side.   

Please, tell us more about the "resources" the USA gets from .ph.

Yes we get nurses and maids, but they are paid and remit that money back home.  Do you think Red China will pay you as well, or let you freely remit your yuan?

So that leaves us with what, pili nuts?     Granted, pili nuts are very delicious but that's not why General MacArther returned and set you free from your Japanese conquerors.

The USA could have just kept the Philippines as its territory and renamed it New Hawaii.  The blood and treasure we spent would justify that.

But we gave .ph sovereignty.  Twice.

And we have a mutual defense pact that is the legacy of SEATO.

In other words, yes we did promise to protect you.

That's why the sailors on the USS Decatur are risking their lives provoking Red China by poking the Dragon right in the eye.

Please, be more pouty, entitled, and ungrateful and bite the hand that feed you even harder.  We'll make an American of you yet!   

[Sponsoredby15]

The Phillipines: Once was Americas bitch, now it's China's bitch. Be careful what you wish for because the former definitely treated you better than than the latter ever will. It's like watching a child throwing their toys out of the pram.

Just another high ranked member of this forum who obviously have no idea of what he is saying. Americans are only treating us good because of the resources that they get from our country. But they never promised that they will protect us when there's a war. Duterte chose China and Russia to avoid war and to improve our economy, not to become it's bitch. Just take a look at America's economy and you'll be shocked by the amount of debt that they have. SMH.

Oh sure, the grass is always greener on the other side.   

Please, tell us more about the "resources" the USA gets from .ph.

Yes we get nurses and maids, but they are paid and remit that money back home.  Do you think Red China will pay you as well, or let you freely remit your yuan?

So that leaves us with what, pili nuts?     Granted, pili nuts are very delicious but that's not why General MacArther returned and set you free from your Japanese conquerors.

The USA could have just kept the Philippines as its territory and renamed it New Hawaii.  The blood and treasure we spent would justify that.

But we gave .ph sovereignty.  Twice.

And we have a mutual defense pact that is the legacy of SEATO.

In other words, yes we did promise to protect you.

That's why the sailors on the USS Decatur are risking their lives provoking Red China by poking the Dragon right in the eye.

Please, be more pouty, entitled, and ungrateful and bite the hand that feed you even harder.  We'll make an American of you yet!   

They steal money from our government from corrupt officials in our country businessman are abuser by their employer since president duterte here but when president duterte arrived in our country many things are change. Its a duterte effect that you do not understand. He is a chess master.

[virtualx]

I hate our aggressive foreign policy.  We had/have no business in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, etc.

You can close your eyes for genocide, is that a good policy? See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. A lot of shit was going on in these countries.

And China is the relevant entity here, because they are annexing territory from .ph and all Duterte does about it is kiss their ass more.

These guys love their "Great Leader" so much. You'd almost think they were North Koreans trolling us on bitcointalk