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October 07, 2016, 02:05:46 PM
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/are-they-planning-to-deny-the-election-if-trump-wins/

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They are starting to set the stage for calling the entire election a FRAUD and pinning the blame on Putin. That’s right. They are saying already in preparation that Russia is hacking into the voting systems to make sure Trump wins. There have been rumors for years that Obama would declare Martial Law and suspend the election process. Interestingly enough, mow it is not the lunatic fringe who are starting to say that would be appropriate if Obama can claim the election was a FRAUD. Even Ben Carson, a black neurosurgeon and a former 2016 Republican presidential candidate, has publicly stated that Obama may declare Martial Law concerning the elections. This is probably a stretch, but the core of the issue is not to prevent an election, only to prevent someone from taking office claiming FRAUD should they win. I doubt Obama could pull this off peacefully. These people not only believe their own bullshit, they often drown in it.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/russia-warns-obama/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/obama-martial-law/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/putin-v-obama-suspending-the-nuclear-pact/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/the-noway-clinton-foundation-obama-links-corruption-to-create-world-war-iii/

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Stoltenberg’s installation into NATO is a set-up. Everything is now in place and if Trump wins, Obama can claim, without any proof as usual, that Russia determined the election and call it all a FRAUD and domestic protest would justify Martial Law and off we go.


TPTB_need_war warned you.

Is Armstrong being too sensational or could there be a chance of this coming to reality?
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October 07, 2016, 10:16:34 PM
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I think it's possible now, if they fail to get satan incarnate elected they will do something very dirty.

Armstrong isn't being overly sensational imo, there's too much at stake for tptb to allow Trump in the white house.

I don't believe tptb will allow Trump to peacefully take over and put an end to their shenanigans.  Sad
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October 07, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
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How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

And now donald trump is our savior?

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October 08, 2016, 02:14:06 PM
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How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

Did a very significant portion of his campaign money come from banksters such as Goldman Sachs as is the case for Hellary and OBummer, or did it come from < $200 donors. That is a rhetorical statement.

Trump is neck and neck with Hillary, although she is outspending him 10:1. Trump has more individuals donating to him while Hillary has all the bankers, hedge funds, and political manipulators who routinely buy government. She also has the press who support Hillary worldwide.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.

Watch the video on the following quoted page and see Trump is the one letting the Haitian President speak:

President of Haiti Exposes Clintons’ Corruption Pocketing 98% of the Money Donated for Relief

Haitian President has come publicly to expose the corruption of the Clintons and their Clinton Foundation. Of the billions of dollars donated to help the Haitian people, he has stated publicly that only about 2% was given to the people. He further exposes the drugs sent into the USA from Haiti and the money was then sent back to pay lobbyists of the Clinton. Here comes a new scandal. They just never end.

Mess with the banksters and their desire to make money from war and you are assassinated (Lincoln and Kennedy):

Therefore, the Rothschilds did not demand high interest because they wanted the North to fail. This was simply a business deal. The entire claim of wanting to see the North lose was just fiction. It was a straight up war loan with the standard demand for a premium that Lincoln declined to pay and abandoned the gold standard instead.





Update:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/obama-officially-accuses-russia-of-hacking-the-election/

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Obama Officially Accuses Russia of Hacking the Election

Everything I have been getting from BEHIND THE CURTAIN seems to be spot on. The overall plan is to deny Trump a victory if there is a record surge of voters and Wikileaks promises new releases every week until the election. Plan B is to call the election a FRAUD and deny Trump to take office. Now 99% of newspapers endorsed Hillary so the media will portray whatever Obama directs them to these days.

It is clear that the Obama administration on Friday officially accused Russia of hacking to interfere with the 2016 elections. Obama has also blamed Russia for hacking the computers of the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations without any proof it was Russia. The Washington Post reported: “The denunciation, made by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Homeland Security, came as pressure was growing from within the administration and some lawmakers to publicly name Moscow and hold it accountable for actions apparently aimed at sowing discord around the election.

They are not about to allow Trump to win this election and they will go to real extremes to prevent any outsider from looking at what they have done. They also fear that a Trump Administration would indict Hillary and that would lead to a widespread collapse of the Democratic Party with links directly to Obama.


Obama Used a Fictitious Name to Communicate with Hillary on Her Private Server

The New York Post, who may become the American version of the British Guardian, has now exposed that Obama used a fake name to communicate with Hillary on her private server because he KNEW what she was doing. While tens of thousands of Clinton’s emails have been made public so far, the government has not released any emails from Obama.

Obama told CBS news that he had no idea that Hillary was using a private email server until it was reported by the New York Times on March 2, 2015. That is clearly an outright lie, and if he were in a private fraud case, he would be criminally charged with her for conspiracy. Hillary’s continuous crime included other parties who may join the plot later and incur joint liability. His use of fictitious names is PROOF that he knew what she was doing was a crime, for he tried to hide his identity as a co-conspirator. This raises the question of whether he will benefit from the Clinton Foundation in the future.

Now it is all starting to make sense. Obviously, the government is refusing to release the emails that Obama sent to Hillary’s private server. Is Obama hiding the fact that he received money from the Clinton Foundation and disguising transactions as speaking fees? Those emails should be released BEFORE the November election.

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Hillary Threatens War with China & Russia

Now in a speech in Cincinnati, Hillary said that she would “politically, economically and militarily” proceed as US President against anyone who committed the hacker attacks against US facilities. Hillary has called explicitly Russia and China as nations that constantly perform hacker attacks. She told the audience: “You have seen the reports that Russia and China have hacked a lot of things. Russia has even hacked the National Committee of Democrats, maybe even some electoral systems of States. We need to increase and ensure that we can defend ourselves well, to fight against those who fight against us price. I’ll do it as president realized that the US will deal with cyber attacks as well as all other attacks. We are willing to seriously halt politically, economically and militarily respond. We will invest to protect our government units and our national infrastructure. “
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October 08, 2016, 03:31:50 PM
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How do we know that Trump isnt a TPTB agent?

We are talking about a entity that is controling the world for several hundred(/thousand) years no?

Did a very significant portion of his campaign money come from banksters such as Goldman Sachs as is the case for Hellary and OBummer, or did it come from < $200 donors. That is a rhetorical statement.



Imho this is a very weak reason why trump couldnt be a TBTP agent. You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.


Everyone seems to always black out that he is part of the "wealthy american elite".

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Trump can't be allowed to take office:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/trumps-15-corporate-tax-rate/

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Trump’s 15% Corporate Tax Rate

While the GOP elite are doing everything they can to make sure Hillary beats Trump just to hold on to their power base, the real business community that creates jobs, not the bankers and multinationals, are excited about Trump’s tax plan to reduce corporate taxes to 15%. es that is what I testified before Congress on back in the Nineties.  Between excess reserves at the Fed and nearly $3 trillion in cash multinational have offshore to avoid taxes, if we took a 15% corporate tax rate, 70% of jobs are created by small business. That would ignite at last a real economic recovery. Then outlaw the Fed paying interest to the banks for NOT lending money, and what we will get is something spectacular. You will have about $5 trillion freed up in an economy that is $18 trillion. It would not be that hard to create jobs and an economic boom. All government has to do is end the socialism. The same formula would work in Europe.
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You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.

How can millions of donors be faked. You need to get a reality check.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.
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Mess with the banksters and their desire to make money from war and you are assassinated (Lincoln and Kennedy):

Therefore, the Rothschilds did not demand high interest because they wanted the North to fail. This was simply a business deal. The entire claim of wanting to see the North lose was just fiction. It was a straight up war loan with the standard demand for a premium that Lincoln declined to pay and abandoned the gold standard instead.


I think it's possible now, if they fail to get satan incarnate elected they will do something very dirty.

Armstrong isn't being overly sensational imo, there's too much at stake for tptb to allow Trump in the white house.

I don't believe tptb will allow Trump to peacefully take over and put an end to their shenanigans.  Sad


Apparently Hellary will be nothing but a puppet in office and not actually in control of herself. We are headed into some really Twilight Zone weird shit.

Watch the videos!!!

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/why-wont-hillary-release-her-medical-records-what-is-she-hiding/

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The talk behind the curtain is that Hillary has a brain implant to calm her Parkinson’s disease. This way to deal with the disease is becoming more common as the FDA has approved such implants. This video shows the dramatic results of how this technology works. The rumor is that this is why Hillary was not publicly around for a week.

Indeed, Hillary may have had an implant to deal with all the criticism on the web about her having tremors and Parkinson’s disease. Notice as she is walking she holds her hand on her chest and that is the classic way to prevent people from seeing a tremor. She clearly does all the tricks to handle Parkinson’s disease. Being absent for a week is a very long time in this race. She did not need a week to prepare. I do public speaking and debates. I have never known someone to need a week to practice.

Hillary collapsed at the 9/11 memorial from something besides simple dehydration, as she claimed. Notice before she is put in the van, she is leaning up against the concrete pillar. When she moves forward, she cannot even walk on her own. This is Parkinson’s disease and shown in the video. He cannot walk and would collapse with the implant turned off.


What this video for a doctor's very convincing analysis of Hillary's advanced Parkinson's disease:

More and more talk from behind the curtain is very concerned that Hillary indeed has Parkinson’s disease and this is why she is not having press conferences because she cannot handle multiple questions being hurled at her simultaneously. She needs help climbing stairs and is showing clear signs of tremors. This video is done by a doctor. However, we have confirming opinions by other doctors that agree with the video.

Hillary will not release her medical records in addition to refusing to do press conferences. There is talk starting to surface from behind the curtain because she is at an advanced stage and may develop Dementia sooner than latter. Some are very concerned because she only cares about being the first woman president and not the country.


QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Does Hillary have health issues? This is the hot rumor that we do not know what is true of not. Do you have any information on this topic?

ANSWER: No I do not have any direct confirmation. I know this is the big rumor and there is probably something that is true for Hillary refuses to release her medical records. Wikileaks has released emails where her staff were investigating drugs for Parkinson’s disease. Her fall, which clearly disrupted her vision, was certainly no minor event. She is on blood thinners for a clot in her brain. However, what I can say is that all my direct sources have long said she is violent and acts out of anger not reason. She would often get mad at Bill and gave him a black-eye one time for they were famous for fights. She hit a Secret Service staff and treated employees like dogs or slaves. Nobody I have spoken to has ever had a reassuring thing to say about her temperament to be president and that was before her fall.

Whether she has Parkinson’s disease is a valid question and her refusal to simply release her medical records are crucial for an office of this significance.
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/can-hillary-win/

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QUESTION: Mr. Armstrong; Do you think that Hillary can win? And if so, what would happen?

ANSWER: Our model is not unanimous for Trump. There is technically a 25% chance that Hillary could win, which one of our four models projects a Democratic victory. However, if you look at the mainstream channels from CNN, CBS, ABC, and NBC, it is very clear they have an agenda to defeat Trump. Just like in Britain, they are starting to manipulate the polls already. I would not expect the polls to be fair or honest this year as was proven in the BREXIT vote. The elites are desperate to kill Trump and they will manipulate the polls just as they forced the head of Fox News out on the very day Trump was to deliver his acceptance speech. They rig and coordinate absolutely everything to prevent a Trump victory. This is all out political war. Make no mistake about that. Even the Republican elites like Paul Ryan and John McCain want to defeat Trump and will hail Hillary behind the curtain. Neither one wants an outsider who might expose their corruption. McCain voted to put a sales tax on the internet and then denied he voted for a tax increase claiming he was voting only to force collection of what was owed to the States. He is a two-face liar with a nasty temper who berates even a waitress for the slightest mistake.
The press is part of the establishment and have received their marching orders to push Hillary.

I fully expect that those in power will rig the votes to try to make Hillary victorious just as they stole the election from Bernie in the primaries. You are talking about the most ruthless people in the country. You cannot get there if you have morals. I have stated before, the ONLY way Trump can win is with a huge turnout that is so overwhelmingly against Hillary. The press is now pushing the Libertarians because they believe that those who would vote for Trump will turn to the Libertarians and that will be a victory for Hillary. Our models have been showing a huge 3rd Party spike for 2016. The Press will now push the Libertarians to try to stop Trump and we should see that this election will produce the biggest percentage take of the vote for the Libertarians so far.

If Hillary wins, everything will begin to collapse much more rapidly and this may be part of the cycle since we are showing the earliest point for a monetary crisis reform in 2018. Hillary may be what is needed to push us over the edge. Hillary will approve all tax increases and send the economy down really hard especially since Social Security goes bust next year with medicare. Hillary’s Billionaires will be fine, but the rest of us will get royally screwed.

Hillary is owned by the NY Bankers.



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October 08, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
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You could easily fake and bypass the donation rules by just donating through random ppl.

How can millions of donors be faked. You need to get a reality check.

Donald Trump has taken nearly $ 100 million in just three months by small donations – more than any Republican before ever in history. That is actually more than two million donors supporting Trump than support his rival Hillary. Hillary takes the money from the elite like Goldman Sachs and Soros, as well as countless banks and hedge funds. They OWN Hillary and she outspends Trump. If we look at this measurement, the PEOPLE are lining up behind Trump more than Hillary.
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That is the bottom-line. Just look at the donations and you see Trump has more LITTLE PEOPLE than Hillary. People vote, not hedge funds and banks.

Aren't we talking about TPTB? A entity controling the world backed up with trillions of dollar?
I would rather think this wouldn't be a hard task for them especially when there are more then 200 million people eligible to vote. (Im assuming now that the rest of the population is not interested, not able to, not under the influence etc. Pp.)

So some million would be less then 1%.
If TPTB isnt even able to control that amount of people then i would think they have no power anyway.

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October 08, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
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criptix, the quote says 2 million more than Hillary, not 2 million total.

If you think anyone (even a God) is powerful enough to create several million fake donors and not get caught on at least several dozens of them, then you have a serious problem with understanding reality and the math of probability.
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October 08, 2016, 08:04:22 PM
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criptix, the quote says 2 million more than Hillary, not 2 million total.

If you think anyone (even God) is powerful enough to create several million fake donors and not get caught on at least several dozens of them, then you have a serious problem with understanding reality and the math of probability.

My bad, you are obviously correct regarding the 2 million more.

Regarding the second point i would disagree.
Under the premise that TPTB controls most of our society even if several fake donors would try to leak the story there would be just to many ways to shut them down (i.e. COINTELPRO, death etc.).

btw. i looked it up because armstrong wasnt very precise there:


Clinton counted 2.3 million donors as of the end of August, the result of decades of campaigning, a previous presidential bid and allies who painstakingly built her an email file of supporters even before she formally announced her second run. But Trump had zoomed to 2.1 million donors in the past three months alone, his campaign has said.




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October 09, 2016, 02:21:02 AM
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btw. i looked it up because armstrong wasnt very precise there:


Clinton counted 2.3 million donors as of the end of August, the result of decades of campaigning, a previous presidential bid and allies who painstakingly built her an email file of supporters even before she formally announced her second run. But Trump had zoomed to 2.1 million donors in the past three months alone, his campaign has said.

It is not the end of August. The rate at which he was accumulating donors means he is at several million. He has (or had) raised > $100 million and if an average donation less than $200, so it is roughly 5+ million.

You obviously don't live in the USA if you think Trump isn't very popular.

Regarding the second point i would disagree.
Under the premise that TPTB controls most of our society even if several fake donors would try to leak the story there would be just to many ways to shut them down (i.e. COINTELPRO, death etc.).

As I said, you seem to have no comprehension of the math of large numbers. Enjoy your delusional fantasy.

Do the TPTB control you absolutely? They don't control my every day decisions. The banksters control some aspects of the macro economics, but they can't possibly micromanage every individual's life.
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillary-maybe-just-what-the-model-needs-to-finish-off-the-economy/
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*puts on tinfoil hat* Will (((They))) sacrifice the old witch in order to steal the election from Trump and start war with Russia ? : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/

That Washington Post article indicates to me that they are potentially planning to blame Putin and/or Trump for poisoning Hellary, as another excuse to never allow Trump to carry out his plans to take back the USA from banksters.

And I wouldn't put it past the banksters to have been the ones who poisoned Hellary to give her Parkinsons.

We headed into a Tribulations.
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Yeah I do believe so, the establishment is hungry for war.

Russia popped up out of nowhere on the turning point of 2015.75 some kind of show down with them now seems inevitable..

These are interesting times man, the scandals and corruption rolls off their backs like water off a duck, this whole round of politics is totally insane.
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Russia popped up out of nowhere on the turning point of 2015.75 some kind of show down with them now seems inevitable..

Precisely to the day of Armstrong's ECM model Oct 1 (2015.75) was the day Russia went hot into Syria.
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Trump is in with the banksters. I formed this opinion based on 3 observations:

1. His son-in-law and campaign manager is Jared Kushner, and is part of the Jewish money power

2. He is an ally of Isreal as he has stated many times

3. His campaign is based on playing with the emotions of the oppressed people, not on facts or any strategy


Face it. After years of oppression by bought off politicians/presidents now suddenly a guy appears and speaks 'his mind'. What a breath of fresh air all of a sudden for the American people. Will the Deep State and Hillary Clinton, who have ruled over America for 100 years whitout anyone knowing it, be defeated by this one narcissistic guy?

No, of course not. They shot down JFK and since then the political power in America have been corrupted even more. Trump would never make it this far if he wasn't in it.

Trump is being pushed forward by the banking elite because it is time to get rid of America as the world's leader and pass the baton over to China and then to a reformed UN/IMF. The bankers want to rule the world using the UN as global government and the IMF as central bank, probably for the next 666 digital currency as you stated many times.

The same narrative is being displayed in Europe: get rid of the EU, back to sovereign nations on one condition: bow down for the UN.

They create the problems, they present the solution, which furthers their agenda.

Russia's Putin is in the same boat; speaks with Henry Kissinger regularly and wasn't elected democratically. There are no borders/nations anymore. Their only purpose is for the peasants to believe in them so that the bankers can orchestrate another war.
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Trump is in with the banksters. I formed this opinion based on 3 facts:

1. His son-in-law and campaign manager is Jared Kushner, and is part of the Jewish money power

2. He is an ally of Isreal as he has stated many times

3. His campaign is based on playing on the emotions of the oppressed little peoples, not on facts or any strategy

Both Clinton and Trump campaign is based on emotion. They talk about China taking our jobs, but I don't see business replacing Chinese workers (1$ a day) with Americans (> 70$ a day). Maybe their plan is to replace the outsourcing with American prison workers for low salary, but I don't see them giving those jobs to average Americans.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/08/scary-truth-about-what-putin-really-wants-and-obama-s-willful-ignorance.html
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