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November 04, 2016, 06:06:50 AM
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...Hillary kicking his ass in every poll by a very large amount...

Drudge Report showed the non-rigged polls were even. Wikileaks released emails showing the Democrats and MSM are colluding to manipulate polls.

You believe the liars because you want a world of social justice, equality, etc... Liberals are messed up in the head. They want to steal from each other and pretend they are good. Thus of course you believe the lie, because you are part of the lie.

Re read my post. It doesn't matter what legitimate polls say, what the vast majority of people are getting is that Hillary is destroying Trump, so fabricating a war with Russia for her benefit makes no sense, since in the eyes of the people she's already winning and by a lot.

Perhaps you missed the original thesis of the OP, which is if Trumps wins (and they are unable to successfully rig the vote outcome) then they may need an excuse to void the election.

Another possible scenario is they do rig the vote for Hillary to win, then they need an excuse to come down hard (martial law) against Trump protesters in the streets. So a war with Russia blamed on Trump might be a pretext to martial law and violating civil rights.
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November 04, 2016, 10:46:53 AM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/something-big-underway-all-fronts

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-03/no-new-cold-war-its-far-worse



If there is to be a WW III, it will end the world.


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November 04, 2016, 02:53:58 PM
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No WW3. Peskov, an aide (or is it Press-Secretary?) to Putin, is married to a US citizen, with kids with citizenship as well. Lots of State Duma deputies and senior officials have property all over Europe and even across the Ocean, with relatives and kids dwelling, working or studying there.
And not so much needed to actually "deny" Trump, he's already doing well in that capacity  Grin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPNQaWeiIE
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November 04, 2016, 06:45:26 PM
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No WW3. Peskov, an aide (or is it Press-Secretary?) to Putin, is married to a US citizen, with kids with citizenship as well. Lots of State Duma deputies and senior officials have property all over Europe and even across the Ocean, with relatives and kids dwelling, working or studying there.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/russian-government-officials-told-immediately-bring-back-children-studying-abroad
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November 06, 2016, 06:54:09 AM
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Interesting week ahead:

If you want to see corruption at the extreme, Hillary could legally pardon herself.

The Quest to Create World War III

Whatever the United States and United Nations can do to isolate Russia they seem to be doing without any regard for the consequences. Saudi Arabia retained its seat on the UN Human Rights Council while Russia was kicked off and Croatia replaced them. When it comes to human rights, one must ask, who made this judgement? All they seem to be doing is trying desperately to isolate Russia and to provoke war instead of peace.



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November 07, 2016, 04:44:21 AM
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/fbi-clears-hillary-for-mishandling-classified-emails-again/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-happens-if-nypd-indicts-hillary/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/reports-of-rigging-the-election-emerging-from-texas/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/the-quest-to-create-world-war-iii/
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November 07, 2016, 07:51:00 AM
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Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Can you say "delusions of grandeur" ? i know you were avoiding say it earlier Shelby Wink

Well since I am by far the most voluminous poster of dense walls of verbiage on these forums for the past 3.5 years, we have evidence that I am well suited for an executive-level position:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ability-to-generate-e-mails-key-indicator-of-stamina-medical-study-says

And I did that while ill! Just wait until I am cured, y'all ain't seen nuttin' yet.

Well that is if you believe The New Yorker isn't full of delusional bullshit:

https://thescene.com/watch/thenewyorker/the-new-yorker-festival-sarah-silverman-and-andy-borowitz-tackle-trump?source=player_scene_logo



Julian Assange: [Let’s talk about] Donald Trump. What does he represent in the American mind and in the European mind?  He represents American white trash, [which Hillary Clinton called] ‘deplorable and irredeemable’.  It means from an establishment or educated cosmopolitan, urbane perspective, these people are like the red necks, and you can never deal with them.  Because he so clearly -- through his words and actions and the type of people that turn up at his rallies -- represents people who are not the middle, not the upper middle educated class, there is a fear of seeming to be associated in any way with them, a social fear that lowers the class status of anyone who can be accused of somehow assisting Trump in any way, including any criticism of Hillary Clinton. If you look at how the middle class gains its economic and social power, that makes absolute sense.
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November 07, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
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http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-russia-and-vladimir-putin-801885763965
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November 07, 2016, 10:14:30 AM
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Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.

http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/

What a world we live in
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November 07, 2016, 11:52:10 AM
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Note in case anyone didn't realize, Martin Armstrong totally screwed up his fact checking again. The above linked Armstrong blog refers a The New Yorker satire.

That doesn't change the point that Rothschilds is masterfully employing his control over the mass media both in traditional forms and Wikileaks, to accomplish this chaos.
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November 09, 2016, 06:16:50 AM
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in other news, Armstrongs thesis on change in US elections spot on. Was first person I read saying an outsider will win.

I can confirm from reading his blog, that his computer predicted BREXIT and Republican victory months before the votes (and he claims his computer made these predictions many years before). I am really tired of this bullshit that says Armstrong's computer isn't legitimately able to predict the future. Armstrong says it is has never been wrong on a USA presidential election except for Gore (who actually won and the election was stolen with rigging in Florida which was later proven to be true).

As I predicted Trump has won due to turnout advantage, and I can make this determination early (as of now) because (with his 244 confirmed electoral votes as of time of writing) he leads in PA and the remaining 3% of the votes to be counted in PA are all in counties where he is getting 2/3 of the vote (or in Bucks county where Clinton doesn't get a significant majority).

The Dems only got CO because they allowed 60,000 felons to vote.
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November 09, 2016, 07:39:36 AM
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Rothschilds has pushed Clinton, Obama, and the political insiders Establishment  into a "fight or go to jail" corner, and they are preparing to fight as predicted:

CLINTON NOT READY TO CONCEDE

John Podesta, Mrs Clinton's camapaign manager has said: "She is not done yet."

He has told the Clinton election night party that the campaign is not ready to concede yet because too many states are "too close to call".

He told the crowd to go home - the campaign will not be saying anything more tonight.

“I know you’ve been here a long time," he said.

“We’re still counting votes, and every vote should count.

“Several states are still close to call, so we’re not going to have anything more to say tonight.

“Everyone should head home. You should get some sleep. We’ll have more to say tomorrow.

“We are so proud of you, and we are so proud of her. She has done amazing things and she’s not done yet.”

Boos and chants of "lock her up" rang around Mr Trump's election night event after it was announced Mrs Clinton would not be conceding defeat.

An extraordinary development.
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November 09, 2016, 07:54:15 AM
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Interesting, Trump says, "sorry to keep you waiting so long, this is complicated business". Then he explains he was talking to Hillary and then asks for us to give her appreciation. Hmm...

Sounds like a backdoor deal to not prosecute may have been reached if she would concede?

Rothschilds has pushed Clinton, Obama, and the political insiders Establishment  into a "fight or go to jail" corner, and they are preparing to fight as predicted:

Looks like the rothchilds are losing their grip, not in material wealth but in their grip on how people think.  All this is great news for bitcoin with trump in.

Not necessarily. They get to dump the entire devolution of the global collapse into Trump's lap and give a reason for Liberals to blame Conservative, divide-and-conquer the great nation on the way to a world government to replace the broken nation-states model.

Meanwhile Trump supports their Five Eyes data privacy invasion.
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November 13, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
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Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.

http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/

What a world we live in

I think I would easily choose the stronger side, but in a world with nuclear proliferation it's hard to say.
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November 14, 2016, 10:47:01 PM
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Cringeworthy propaganda.

Rothschilds is masterfully fomenting class-warfare in the USA via his control over Wikileaks (as previously documented). The clan is aligning Russia with the conservatives and Europe with the liberals, in what will be combination of an international and civil war combined! Masterful divide-and-conquer strategy to usher in the New World Order which rise out of the ashes of the devolution of the nation-state. Rothschilds has all the various factions under his thumb.

Good summary. It pains me that so little people can't see it.

Trump and Putin are the other side of the same coin.



http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/globalist-agenda-watch-2016-update-23-why-the-globalists-will-announce-trump-as-the-winner-of-the-election/

What a world we live in
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It’s all about setting people up to accept the Rockefeller/Kissinger- planned, BRICS-fronted, “reformed” UN-centered New World Order after the “bad guys” / scapegoats fall.
BRIC's = NWO is like the changing of tweedle dum for tweedle dee in the politik games(2 party system is the same as one party one,it is simply a good cop bad cop routine or two teams that take turns to win the same game or one spends the savings while the other refills the piggy bank with taxes etc etc)the former poor hard working producers will now become the wealthy consumers etc etc but what of the old guard order?What part will they play?NWO represents a seismic shift in wealth class distribution so maybe us yanks and euros will be the peasants making the shitty crap in factories this time medicated on the koolade and telespeak.It looks bleak indeed and the frogs are almost boiled.
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November 30, 2016, 03:46:24 PM
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/erdogan-admits-he-is-engaging-in-war-against-syria/
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