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October 11, 2016, 07:47:12 AM |
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And still a lot of people don't see this. All they think of is the death that has been caused by the illegal drugs arrest. Don't they think that it's much better to see a drug addict die than see a policeman gets killed because of raiding a drug addict. SMH but even people from other countries should know about this. It's not like our president is carelessly killing people. They've done research and have done confirmation before they raid drug addicts. And if they fight against the police, they will be forced to fight back.
Filipinos on this form say there is no trial, direct execution. That is the same as carelessly killing people. Any policeman can get rid of his enemies, simply claim he was drug addict or dealer, put drugs in his home and kill. I don't trust this kind of justice. In western world criminals get executed too, but they have a trial. Execution of human beings should not be in the hands of entry-level policeman. Why doesn't the Philippines have a "death row" ? So I guess you'd prefer to have a policeman getting shot by a drug addict than a drug addict getting shot by the policeman? Why would you need a trial? Those people that are getting arrested were proven and investigated that they are drug addicts. Everyone was given their second chances and those that are getting arrested will just be put in jail for them to have a trial, of course. But if they fight during the operation, then the policeman would have to fight too. I guess even in your country, if a criminal pulls out a gun and points it to a policeman, a policeman would have to pull his gun too, right? There's no difference at all. Or were you suggesting to have a trial before they go to the drug addicts house? Please don't get me wrong but it's literally the same process with you guys, I don't know why are you thinking differently of our country. They go to the house of the criminal to arrest him/her and have a trial in the court. If the criminal tries to escape/resist by killing or hurting the policeman, then the policeman would have to fight back.
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October 11, 2016, 08:31:34 AM |
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and those that are getting arrested will just be put in jail for them to have a trial, of course. But if they fight during the operation, then the policeman would have to fight too.
Actually there appear to be cases wherein they are just shot, even if they don't put up a fight at all, or perhaps in other cases if they try to run away. I don't know why are you thinking differently of our country
Who cares what the Westerners think. Do it your way. Give the UN and the USA the middle finger! We Westerners are going down and you Asians are coming up. Stop trying to please us. Do what you want. Our governments coddled your overlords for decades keeping you mired in poverty. Why do you show our leaders respect when they want to enslave you? And I have lived in the Philippines since 1994 (on and off, but steadily since 2004). As for the "do good" socialist/feminist idiots who think our governments are good, learn that they are idiots and deserve their fate as the West collapses into a pile of dust, while Asia rises up.
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October 11, 2016, 09:57:59 AM |
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and those that are getting arrested will just be put in jail for them to have a trial, of course. But if they fight during the operation, then the policeman would have to fight too.
Actually there appear to be cases wherein they are just shot, even if they don't put up a fight at all, or perhaps in other cases if they try to run away. I guess that can't be helped but happen. I don't know why are you thinking differently of our country
Who cares what the Westerners think. Do it your way. Give the UN and the USA the middle finger!The president already did to Obama. He cussed, but Obama said he didn't mind it at all. He just thinks it's our president's way of expressing himself. .... We Westerners are going down and you Asians are coming up. Stop trying to please us. Do what you want.
Our governments coddled your overlords for decades keeping you mired in poverty. Why do you show our leaders respect when they want to enslave you?
Basically the reason why our new president is cutting off our ties to the USA. He knows every single thing about what you're talking about. The US is now in debt. There are numerous facebook pages in our country that are revealing all these facts and it is all adding up. The new president wants to join force with Russia and China. Common people thinks that it's a dumb decision and they want to continue worshiping the USA. Smh.
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October 11, 2016, 10:45:17 AM |
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The new president wants to join force with Russia and China. Common people thinks that it's a dumb decision and they want to continue worshiping the USA. Smh.
So true. Well good for me they still think white guys with blue eyes are more admirable than Chinese guys with black eyes, lol. But I know this will all change over the next several years. We will see an invasion of Chinese into the Philippines and the admiration will shift based on "no money, no honey". But it is okay because I am 51 and on the tail end of my dating lifestyle. I'll probably head out of the Philippines finally as the Chinese take over. Nothing lasts forever. And I am not proud of what America did to your country. Although I will say afaik that we did build a lot of schools after WW2. But so much other bad shit we did such as try colonize your country after helping to liberate you from Spain. Always global politics involved. One thing Durterte is wrong about is that Man Made Global Warming is junk science and a lie hoisted by the elite to control the countries. If I could talk to him, I would explain that he is wrong to think the drought in Mindanao was caused by Global Warming. If you have any way to inform others and get the word to him, please do. You may contact me for more information if you need it.
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October 11, 2016, 10:52:53 AM Last edit: October 11, 2016, 12:49:30 PM by iamnotback |
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The US is now in debt.
China has a worst debt by GDP-to-debt ratio. You are missing the main point. The main problem is that the Western countries have promised everything to the people via socialism, and so they can't reduce taxes and get out of debt. They are tied to welfare payments and healthcare payments for everyone forever. And they don't have enough youth to pay for it, because they kill most of their babies in the womb or with birth control. Westerners are very close to Satan. And they destroy the youth, for example marijuana is now legal in my mother's home state of Washington. Whereas, in Asia you have to pay your own costs (even for education). Individual responsibility instead of letting the government pay for everything. That is why Asia can write off the debt and start anew. You will see China crash until 2020 and the USA dollar will actually go up until 2018 or so. This will make it appear that Durterte was wrong. He will have egg on his face for a couple of years. But then China will bottom 2020 and start going up. But USA and Europe will just keep going down and down because Westerners love "free" (paid for with debt) government handouts. Now the filipinos are starting to copy the Westerners and now you have PhilHealth. So in the future, when you make birth control widespread and don't have enough youth to pay the PhilHealth for everyone, then you Asians will be in the same problem as we Westerners are in today. Don't copy our birthcontrol bullshit!!! Your large population and large families are not your problem. The problem was the USA was hoisting up your overlords in your country holding you down. How many times are you natives going to be fooled when the white man hands you a mirror in exchange for your land? The lies about global warming and birth control are just another mirror. They are fooling you again. Fight back for your culture! Come on you are native right? I am native. I am 2% blooded American Cherokee native and proud of it. Get this truth out. You don't understand. You filipinos need to learn the truth. Even Duterte does not completely understand. He should talk with me. P.S. Trump is somewhat similar to Duterte and the only chance the USA has to not fall into the abyss.
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October 11, 2016, 10:57:39 AM |
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This guy truly scares me. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) Is he a president or a dictator? Those two words blur the lines with these achievements and acts of such malice. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) That is what the media wanted the whole world about Mr. Duterte, a dictator. But ask everyone here in the Philippines and 90% trust him so much. The world is just focus on his cursing and the fight against drug but forget to see the other things like what are listed above. So the majority of your country are self righteous physchopaths that see murdering people is the right way to do things? ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) ^ He gave the public the right to kill drug takers and dealers..NOT GOOD Not just about that it's about trade without trade 1 or 2 cities will be good the rest will be poor.. We will see who was right and wrong.. We west cannot deal with a murderer only if a court of law gives the say so to kill.. NOT 1 MAN.. Many reasons why.. Don't worry I expect your leader to tell us westerners to go and fuck ourselves ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .. Best thing to do is let him build your nation for about 10 years then hope he dies because we will never deal with him we cannot it's against our law AND NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW NO ONE.. Well it's suppose to be that way ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ..But we all know money can do wonders.. Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill his children if they ... Video for Duterte kill street kids▶ 0:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92tcHjCmKQHe as killed street kids JUST POOR children..No one should do this ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) .. Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill his children if they ... Video for Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill his children if they ... Video for Duterte kill street kids▶ 0:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92tcHjCmKQ▶ 0:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92tcHjCmKQ..HOW DARE YOU KILL CHILDREN.. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) ..CUNTS The post above mine is correct. Being a vigilante and allowing anarchy to reign is not a way to run a country. It is just an unorganized way the nazis did it without the concentration camps. It is street justice and no one is safe with that from these self appointed police/murderers. They are just thugs. And so this is the way the world views this president as just one of those. By the actions that he has taken. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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October 11, 2016, 11:08:30 AM |
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So the majority of your country are self righteous physchopaths that see murdering people is the right way to do things? ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) They don't give a fuck what your brainwashed politically correct nonsense "mind" (incapable to) thinks, you Western Satan worshiper. Read my prior comment post to understand. Get off their lawn. You are not welcome. Go enjoy your coming poverty and coming war with Russia. I am watching with my popcorn as the Westerners discover their bankrupt, manipulative, political correct brainwashing is no longer welcome in pragmatic Asia. Click the following image for the blog: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEbgkYbNl.jpg&t=665&c=xGvcd850r2zdXQ)
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October 11, 2016, 01:36:14 PM |
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Why would you need a trial? Those people that are getting arrested were proven and investigated that they are drug addicts.
To have a fair justice system. They are not investigated by the legal authority. They could be arrested instead of executed at the spot. Its not so difficult to use tear gas, flashlight or shoot criminal in leg. Do you not have sniper rifle in Philippines? Just wait until they go out of the building ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or were you suggesting to have a trial before they go to the drug addicts house?
They should go to trial to let court decide. The police shouldn't be the lawyer, the politician, the military all in one ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 11, 2016, 01:53:06 PM |
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Why would you need a trial? Those people that are getting arrested were proven and investigated that they are drug addicts.
To have a fair justice system. They are not investigated by the legal authority. They could be arrested instead of executed at the spot. Its not so difficult to use tear gas, flashlight or shoot criminal in leg. Do you not have sniper rifle in Philippines? Just wait until they go out of the building ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or were you suggesting to have a trial before they go to the drug addicts house?
They should go to trial to let court decide. The police shouldn't be the lawyer, the politician, the military all in one ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I guess i have to second this thought. This is basically what's wrong - let the wrong thing go without the it undergoing the correct process. It won't be long before people realize this and take advantage. People are dying everywhere and the police aren't really that much helping with their investigations. If this goes on and on. You can just kill everyone and go unpunished.
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October 11, 2016, 01:59:27 PM Last edit: October 11, 2016, 04:28:56 PM by iamnotback |
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To have a fair justice system.
There is no such thing as a fair system, when you give authority to someone. No matter how you slice it, power is always corruptible. The American justice system is horrendously corrupted, even though we have the formalities of arrest, court, and a farce of due process. They are not investigated by the legal authority. They could be arrested instead of executed at the spot. Its not so difficult to use tear gas, flashlight or shoot criminal in leg. Do you not have sniper rifle in Philippines? Just wait until they go out of the building ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They should go to trial to let court decide. The police shouldn't be the lawyer, the politician, the military all in one ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You don't seem to understand that if they are allowed to go court, then corruption begins. People bribe judges, bribe prison guards, etc.. It just doesn't work. It has been tired (tried) already and was failing miserably. I guess i have to second this thought. This is basically what's wrong - let the wrong thing go without the it undergoing the correct process. It won't be long before people realize this and take advantage. People are dying everywhere and the police aren't really that much helping with their investigations. If this goes on and on. You can just kill everyone and go unpunished.
You don't understand. The filipino people voted this system into existence. They can vote it out, if they decide it is not working well. This is called democracy. Why don't you respect the will of the Filipino people?
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October 11, 2016, 02:09:30 PM |
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All I can say is that I am neutral about this topic. I wouldn't say that I agree with Duterte's methods since it involves killing, etc. of drug addicts but I also wouldn't say that I disagree with him since it somewhat made the surrounding here in the Philippines safer. Ill just monitor what he'll do next and hope that it would take Philippines to economy or safety improvement not war, chaos etc.
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October 11, 2016, 02:14:32 PM |
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All I can say is that I am neutral about this topic. I wouldn't say that I agree with Duterte's methods since it involves killing, etc. of drug addicts but I also wouldn't say that I disagree with him since it somewhat made the surrounding here in the Philippines safer. Ill just monitor what he'll do next and hope that it would take Philippines to economy or safety improvement not war, chaos etc.
I essentially feel more or less similarly. But what I concluded was I am not a Filipino citizen (only a guest in their country) thus it isn't my decision to make.
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October 13, 2016, 03:05:31 AM |
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All I can say is that I am neutral about this topic. I wouldn't say that I agree with Duterte's methods since it involves killing, etc. of drug addicts but I also wouldn't say that I disagree with him since it somewhat made the surrounding here in the Philippines safer. Ill just monitor what he'll do next and hope that it would take Philippines to economy or safety improvement not war, chaos etc.
I essentially feel more or less similarly. But what I concluded was I am not a Filipino citizen (only a guest in their country) thus it isn't my decision to make. Well for me its philippines time from Capital Murder of Asia to Safest Country in the Whole World. But after all we need to achieve dreams of our president eventhough it is hard to get it. Love, hate, joy, regret, hope, despair and everything about it. Just walk until we reach the true light we desire in our country. No filipinos wants to destroy their own country.
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October 13, 2016, 02:11:05 PM |
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All I can say is that I am neutral about this topic. I wouldn't say that I agree with Duterte's methods since it involves killing, etc. of drug addicts but I also wouldn't say that I disagree with him since it somewhat made the surrounding here in the Philippines safer. Ill just monitor what he'll do next and hope that it would take Philippines to economy or safety improvement not war, chaos etc.
I essentially feel more or less similarly. But what I concluded was I am not a Filipino citizen (only a guest in their country) thus it isn't my decision to make. Well for me its philippines time from Capital Murder of Asia to Safest Country in the Whole World. But after all we need to achieve dreams of our president eventhough it is hard to get it. Love, hate, joy, regret, hope, despair and everything about it. Just walk until we reach the true light we desire in our country. No filipinos wants to destroy their own country. Presidents have to make tough decision all the time. It's not like our president woke up and then decided that the war on drugs would be bloody. All these mafias and drug addicts have been killing each other ever since anyway. They don't care about the country or anything. All they think of is how are they going to buy another bag of drugs for today. They get high, stoned, and sleep at night and then just think of the next day how are they going to feed their addiction. These people are basically the parasites of the society. I think it's only normal to get rid of the parasites first before you start making other improvements.
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October 13, 2016, 02:20:39 PM |
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To have a fair justice system.
There is no such thing as a fair system, when you give authority to someone. No matter how you slice it, power is always corruptible. The American justice system is horrendously corrupted, even though we have the formalities of arrest, court, and a farce of due process. Your argument is a fallacy: The idea that the alternative is not corrupt. Policeman can abuse their power, look around in other countries to see what police does ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The process of court is not perfect but it's necessary. They are not investigated by the legal authority. They could be arrested instead of executed at the spot. Its not so difficult to use tear gas, flashlight or shoot criminal in leg. Do you not have sniper rifle in Philippines? Just wait until they go out of the building ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They should go to trial to let court decide. The police shouldn't be the lawyer, the politician, the military all in one ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You don't seem to understand that if they are allowed to go court, then corruption begins. People bribe judges, bribe prison guards, etc.. It just doesn't work. It has been tired (tried) already and was failing miserably. I understand perfectly. You don't seem to understand that the alternative is not better: police can abuse their power. It just doesn't work. It has been tried and is failing miserably. The justice system was created for a reason. You support Duterte policy but at the same time you are heavily using drugs. The West is not Satan worshipper, wash your mouth ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 13, 2016, 02:32:37 PM |
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I can see fairness to Duterte's campaign though. These drug dependent are the ones that are likely going to commit crimes in the future. Everyday in our country the news is always rape slay and murdering.
And they really do, these drug addicts rape kids ages from 2 -16 years old and people Are afraid to go out becuase of them. But when duterte sits, there were now that the ones afraid.
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October 13, 2016, 03:42:26 PM |
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I can see fairness to Duterte's campaign though. These drug dependent are the ones that are likely going to commit crimes in the future. Everyday in our country the news is always rape slay and murdering.
And they really do, these drug addicts rape kids ages from 2 -16 years old and people Are afraid to go out becuase of them. But when duterte sits, there were now that the ones afraid.
Exactly. Before, it gives us a chill whenever we are walking on the street late at night but now it is the crime doers who were afraid of it. Before the ones who get killed were the innocent, now the one who get killed were the criminals, most of them. Those who were against the government now are people who never experienced walking on the street at night. Those people did not even experience to live in a community were rampant injustices happens.
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October 13, 2016, 04:04:07 PM |
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I can see fairness to Duterte's campaign though. These drug dependent are the ones that are likely going to commit crimes in the future. Everyday in our country the news is always rape slay and murdering.
And they really do, these drug addicts rape kids ages from 2 -16 years old and people Are afraid to go out becuase of them. But when duterte sits, there were now that the ones afraid.
Exactly. Before, it gives us a chill whenever we are walking on the street late at night but now it is the crime doers who were afraid of it. Before the ones who get killed were the innocent, now the one who get killed were the criminals, most of them. Those who were against the government now are people who never experienced walking on the street at night. Those people did not even experience to live in a community were rampant injustices happens. i don't really think it's the drug campaign that's the problem right now as it's evident that it's making mostly the streets a bit safer. it's just his aggression towards other leaders that unnecessary. i mean there's too much emotion whenever he's lambasting other leaders in the west. its ok to be friends with our eastern neighbors like china but i don't think it would also do the country good if he keeps on being aggressive towards western leaders
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October 13, 2016, 05:46:02 PM |
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...at the same time you are heavily using drugs.
Incorrect. And the rest of your argument was inapplicable, because if both choices are corruptible, then the filipino people get to decide which they prefer. And yes you Westerners are Satan worshipers even you don't realize it.
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October 13, 2016, 05:52:29 PM |
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Do you think guys that campaign from duterte will be success about killing drug lords and do you think this is solution to bring us from being poor.. Honestly there is no changes its still the same as before.. but the problem we are now seeing who is corrupt like delima do you think its true or its just all plan by duterte campaign..
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