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bitbollo
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October 09, 2016, 10:54:43 AM |
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Hi tautvilis, I have read your post of complaints in the principal topic about secondstrade... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554.msg16492895#msg16492895Because every time they issue a repayment, without any problem, so probably also in this time you have only to wait another reply by secondstrade owner ... and that's it. Also seems really clear that your bet need to be refunded, so I don't think they want scam you.
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rabiow12
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October 09, 2016, 11:48:31 AM |
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me too i got scammed for more than 0.5 btc and no refund till now the funny part their home thread if full of scam accusations and the owner have no fucking red trust So i understand that- this forum simply full of bastards and thiefs and motherfuckers and the fairness pretenders ....
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Avirunes
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October 09, 2016, 03:55:57 PM |
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Maybe he was busy then. Anyway I will send a Pm to the accused to give him some light about this thread. BTW may I know for which game in secondstrade you send the btc.
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tommy163
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October 09, 2016, 06:15:46 PM |
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Post this in their OP, his op is not self moderated one, so feel free to post negative against them, if they want to continue the business, he will pay you. And don't forget leave this site after you have the money
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actmyname
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October 09, 2016, 06:20:22 PM |
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Post this in their OP, his op is not self moderated one, so feel free to post negative against them, if they want to continue the business, he will pay you. And don't forget leave this site after you have the money
tautvilis did. We thought like you, but transaction id can be selected.
"Bet Amount above the maximum amount will be refunded after six confirmation." I've sent you 0.9733BTC and that transaction already has over 125 confirmations. Please refund. And secondstrade posted this: Our system had a problem for about 10 hours . But it was fixed. We will refund for the bet of the time. But scammer will not be refunded. Thank you
But it's unclear who they are referring to.
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tautvilis (OP)
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October 10, 2016, 07:48:08 PM |
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I am not the only person who is not refunded by the owner: Can someone from default trust add him some negative feedback. Maybe a red trust rating will speed the things up.
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Chris!
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October 10, 2016, 07:55:44 PM |
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Wow the scam accusations keep popping up for secondstrade. I saw that they were having some technical difficulties but this is getting ridiculous. Keep us in the loop OP.
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rabiow12
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October 11, 2016, 08:38:12 PM Last edit: October 13, 2016, 08:55:06 AM by rabiow12 |
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SECONDSTRADE.COM still GOT NO FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING SINGLE RED TRUST INTERSTING!!
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loveofmylife
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October 12, 2016, 05:59:45 AM |
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One more day, do you guys get the money back? Update the status, I usually see many complaint in their OP, he runs a so big paid campaign with lowest rate, IMO he is a greedy casino owner. I wish you win win win, and let him broke.
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spartak_t
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October 12, 2016, 10:33:43 AM |
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Guys, I think that a separate thread should be created, where everybody should post their "story". I already notified secondstrade ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1641673.msg16524353#msg16524353) about another scam accusation, but please understand that its difficult to follow everything. I will do my best to assist you.
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sp3edm
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October 12, 2016, 05:45:11 PM |
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tautvilis (OP)
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October 12, 2016, 08:33:05 PM |
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I have messaged these members from default trust: "BayAreaCoins", "markj113", "dooglus", "suchmoon", "cryptodevil", "shorena", "Blazed", "Tomatocage", "OldScammerTag", "Raize", "OgNasty", "SaltySpitoon", "BadBear", "theymos", "Vod", "RHavar", "tysat", "dogie", "jackjack", "Dabs", "DannyHamilton", "xetsr", "Mitchell", "hilariousandco", "TheButterZone" I can only send a message to up to 10 people at once so I only sent a message to people that I am familiar with.
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Blazed
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October 12, 2016, 08:33:12 PM |
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Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.
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tautvilis (OP)
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October 12, 2016, 08:37:55 PM |
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Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.
I've now been waiting 5 days for the refund, although it is clearly stated in their rules that ""Bet Amount above the maximum amount will be refunded after six confirmation."
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suchmoon
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October 12, 2016, 08:45:49 PM |
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Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.
I negged them even before tautvilis PMed - clearly secondstrade is aware of the issue, it's been several days, their own terms state "after 6 confirmations", they have refunded some users recently but not the OP and a few others. I can always revise or remove the feedback but their actions are highly suspect at this time so the site should be avoided until they refund or provide a valid reason not to.
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sp3edm
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October 12, 2016, 08:54:06 PM |
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Waiting to see a reply from the owners on this. I think it is a little fast to drop a negative until they respond, though. Sometimes people get a little busy and refunds can be delayed.
I'm in the same case of tautvilis. Blazed, the owner is ignoring our messages... you can see on the official thread. I sent some pm and never had response. He will never refund us, so people need to be warned to avoid future scams from him. The main reason seems because the owner of secondstrade made a new game called "txdice" who was shitty coded and resulted a lost of 9 BTC... So he needs to scam to recover money. For information, 0.8 + 0.9733 + 0.5 => 2.2733 BTC scammed in 5 days. (only for 3 people).
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Lutpin
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October 13, 2016, 02:42:28 AM Last edit: October 13, 2016, 05:41:15 AM by Lutpin |
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Upon checking the address, it seems the bet was refunded, is that correct? It's not. While being slow with it, they issued a few refunds earlier today (checking their thread, there were quite a number of open refunds to catch up on). I've now been waiting 5 days for the refund, although it is clearly stated in their rules that ""Bet Amount above the maximum amount will be refunded after six confirmation."
They should adjust that part of their rules, I think it means bets are refunded after at least six confirmations. Seeing as they are doing refunds now, they are probably doing them manually (?) or at least semi-manually.
That's the OP's address. last TX is October 7 to 1NqC, which is secondstrade address. No refund as far as I can see.
You're rigth, where's my glasses? Secondstrades has been carrying out refunds this morning, seems OP was not among them, though.
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October 13, 2016, 05:08:46 AM |
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Upon checking the address, it seems the bet was refunded, is that correct?
I don't think so: https://blockchain.info/address/1PKd8B1BGWJW19NSeHY6KGKkhCsFGtkAvHThat's the OP's address. last TX is October 7 to 1NqC, which is secondstrade address. No refund as far as I can see.
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