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I think that hardware mining is the better choice because first of all there are a lot of ponzi schemes out there that pose as cloud mining companies and you can't really tell whether it's legit or not, and also you can sell your hardware and get some principal back after you're done mining.
Even hardware mining right now is not as good as it was. Especially if you do live in a country which the electricity bill is quite high and the maintenance of your device is really not that easy that is why cloud mining is build. Actually the idea of cloud mining is really good but you are right that instead it was being used on trolling peoples mind out. Hardware mining could be still profitable though but as you mentioned you should really need some amounts regarding on the expenses on its maintenance because proper maintenance and ventilation is crucial for this kind of activity. Electricity should be the most thing to be considered if its cheap then you would be profitable enough. I agree with you cloud mining are just being created for those who dont like to have hardware miners but most of them are just ended up as a scam. I would only do cloud mining if it was the government who try to help their citizens other than that i would be very vigilant. Exactly especially in our place in which electric bills are really quite painful in the ass. Actually government will not going to help those miners since they cannot implement them some taxes since mostly people who's holding the real one are hiding so government will not force them to pay some taxes for their operation, theyre profits will be more lessen since they have to pay more additional payments on their what so called business, and cloudmining is not a real mining it is just an scamming bait for those frauds.
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November 22, 2016, 03:51:18 PM |
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I think that hardware mining is the better choice because first of all there are a lot of ponzi schemes out there that pose as cloud mining companies and you can't really tell whether it's legit or not, and also you can sell your hardware and get some principal back after you're done mining.
Even hardware mining right now is not as good as it was. Especially if you do live in a country which the electricity bill is quite high and the maintenance of your device is really not that easy that is why cloud mining is build. Actually the idea of cloud mining is really good but you are right that instead it was being used on trolling peoples mind out. Hardware mining could be still profitable though but as you mentioned you should really need some amounts regarding on the expenses on its maintenance because proper maintenance and ventilation is crucial for this kind of activity. Electricity should be the most thing to be considered if its cheap then you would be profitable enough. I agree with you cloud mining are just being created for those who dont like to have hardware miners but most of them are just ended up as a scam. I would only do cloud mining if it was the government who try to help their citizens other than that i would be very vigilant. Exactly especially in our place in which electric bills are really quite painful in the ass. Actually government will not going to help those miners since they cannot implement them some taxes since mostly people who's holding the real one are hiding so government will not force them to pay some taxes for their operation, theyre profits will be more lessen since they have to pay more additional payments on their what so called business, and cloudmining is not a real mining it is just an scamming bait for those frauds. Miners would really not tend to expose themselves because the threat of being imposed taxes by government and surely profits would be reduced. I understand your point though and most people will surely think the same. Cloudmining are just total trash they are just claiming that they operating a mining farm which doesnt exist at all on the first place, 99% of those cloudmining are scam.
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February 05, 2017, 02:43:56 PM |
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Is cloud mining safe to use? Is it recommended to used? Since some of the users said that it is not safe to use nor recommended and some said that it is just a scam. I dont know about this i mean i never used both cloud and hardware mining.
What would you recommend on me? which is the best one?
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February 05, 2017, 04:47:31 PM |
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Is cloud mining safe to use? Is it recommended to used? Since some of the users said that it is not safe to use nor recommended and some said that it is just a scam. I dont know about this i mean i never used both cloud and hardware mining.
What would you recommend on me? which is the best one?
You really should do some research on the forum. There are threads with lists of closed cloud mining sites and the lists are extensive. NO, cloud mining is not safe to use. You are sending money to a private company, that usually is not what they claim. The most common issues are: -CM company never mines and is just a domain with a btc address -CM is mining, but for themselves. You don't know how much miners they have, what they are mining and how much they are earning. You are getting paid scraps. -CM looks legit at first, they seem to be mining and paying out a lot, but after a couple months they disappear with your money.
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February 05, 2017, 10:40:43 PM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
Well, if you prefer the cheapest way, then I suggest you to invest on the cloud mining but the earnings there are not that big like the earnings in the Hardware mining because in the hardware mining, it mines a lot of bitcoin than a cloud mining can because of its hardware power which is really expensive. So the choice is yours.
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February 06, 2017, 03:42:39 AM |
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Is cloud mining safe to use? Is it recommended to used? Since some of the users said that it is not safe to use nor recommended and some said that it is just a scam. I dont know about this i mean i never used both cloud and hardware mining.
What would you recommend on me? which is the best one?
You really should do some research on the forum. There are threads with lists of closed cloud mining sites and the lists are extensive. NO, cloud mining is not safe to use. You are sending money to a private company, that usually is not what they claim. The most common issues are: -CM company never mines and is just a domain with a btc address -CM is mining, but for themselves. You don't know how much miners they have, what they are mining and how much they are earning. You are getting paid scraps. -CM looks legit at first, they seem to be mining and paying out a lot, but after a couple months they disappear with your money. Well honestly i do some research about cloud mining but i dont fully understand it. as i read your opinion i know it is not advisable to use then it is very scary and risky though we can earn a small amount from it but i would prefer to post in the signature campaign to make money than investing in cloud mining. Anyways it is our choice where to invest. Thank you for sharing your ideas dude.
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February 07, 2017, 04:26:21 PM |
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Well honestly i do some research about cloud mining but i dont fully understand it. as i read your opinion i know it is not advisable to use then it is very scary and risky though we can earn a small amount from it but i would prefer to post in the signature campaign to make money than investing in cloud mining. Anyways it is our choice where to invest. Thank you for sharing your ideas dude.
What is it that you don't understand? The idea behind CM is that you buy a share, which could be a full standalone miner and someone hosts it for you in his big mine. You pay for the hardware, he pays for the space, power and cooling and you share the profits. In reality companies are abusing the system and hiding their real profits to limit the payments and extend the payback period. Sometimes they don't even buy the hardware and run once enough people buy the contracts.
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February 08, 2017, 12:22:34 AM |
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Is cloud mining safe to use?
I won't prefer you to believe and trust cloud mining because they are scams although I'm saying that all of them are scam. Maybe 0.5% you can trust as long they can provide proof of mining and there are some that are legit. Is it recommended to used?
No, I don't recommend you to invest in cloud mining it is better if you'll invest in bankroll casino. Since some of the users said that it is not safe to use nor recommended and some said that it is just a scam. I dont know about this i mean i never used both cloud and hardware mining.
What would you recommend on me? which is the best one?
Hardware mining is legit but the problem is that will consume too much electricity and if you are living in a country where electricity is high then don't intend to build your own.
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February 08, 2017, 05:30:46 AM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
Lets just say it'll cost you more in a cloudmining but a hardware mining can be a long term profit. Like they said, it is hard to find a good cloudmining company because most are scams disguised as a legit company. Hardware mining on the other hand may cost you electricit and the materials needed but if you have your own mining gear then you can use that profit for a long term. You have mentioned that in having a hardware mining it would cost you firstly from buying an equipment or gears and second the electricity, I don't know if it can be for a long term profit unless you have a free source of power or electricity and I guess you will need a maintenance for your equipment which will also cost some dollars . So I think both cloud mining and hardware mining can not be a profitable investment .
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February 10, 2017, 07:51:09 PM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
Lets just say it'll cost you more in a cloudmining but a hardware mining can be a long term profit. Like they said, it is hard to find a good cloudmining company because most are scams disguised as a legit company. Hardware mining on the other hand may cost you electricit and the materials needed but if you have your own mining gear then you can use that profit for a long term. You have mentioned that in having a hardware mining it would cost you firstly from buying an equipment or gears and second the electricity, I don't know if it can be for a long term profit unless you have a free source of power or electricity and I guess you will need a maintenance for your equipment which will also cost some dollars . So I think both cloud mining and hardware mining can not be a profitable investment . Yeah, both the types of bitcoin mining in general are not really that profitable anymore and it is not getting any easier by the time since the prices are going off, so even if you have free electricity the hardware you buy for the mining is expensive and you won’t be able to start really profiting from it until a year of constant mining, and that applies to cloud mining as well.
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February 11, 2017, 05:51:07 AM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
Lets just say it'll cost you more in a cloudmining but a hardware mining can be a long term profit. Like they said, it is hard to find a good cloudmining company because most are scams disguised as a legit company. Hardware mining on the other hand may cost you electricit and the materials needed but if you have your own mining gear then you can use that profit for a long term. You have mentioned that in having a hardware mining it would cost you firstly from buying an equipment or gears and second the electricity, I don't know if it can be for a long term profit unless you have a free source of power or electricity and I guess you will need a maintenance for your equipment which will also cost some dollars . So I think both cloud mining and hardware mining can not be a profitable investment . Yeah, both the types of bitcoin mining in general are not really that profitable anymore and it is not getting any easier by the time since the prices are going off, so even if you have free electricity the hardware you buy for the mining is expensive and you won’t be able to start really profiting from it until a year of constant mining, and that applies to cloud mining as well. Any investment is like that. No difference or anything. All of your money goes to capital like machinery, raw materials, etc. I'm talking about investment/franchise in general. At first, you can't earn anything at all since you're still growing back your capital. But once you're done with that phase, all of the preceding income would be profit. The only thing that you would have expenses to are electricity and maintenance. If you have "free" electricity (which I doubt) then you'll get your capital back in a much shorter time than those that pays huge electric bills. I think mining is still profitable if you have decent capital. Otherwise, you should just look for a part time job since it would pay much higher, although the earnings wouldn't be a passive one.
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February 11, 2017, 07:04:29 AM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
i will choose hardware mining because its a real mining but we need to calculate the electricity fee and if there is not profitable then we don't have to mining. i don't want to choose cloud mining as today we know that many cloud mining out there but we don't know where is the best cloud mining that we can invest. but for suggestion in cloud mining, maybe you can go with hashnest because they are really mining with hardware and they are the one of the oldest cloud mining that still online until now.
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February 11, 2017, 10:47:33 AM |
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Cloud mining Vs Hardware Mining Which is best ? Should i invest in Cloud mining or Hardware mining ?
i will choose hardware mining because its a real mining but we need to calculate the electricity fee and if there is not profitable then we don't have to mining. i don't want to choose cloud mining as today we know that many cloud mining out there but we don't know where is the best cloud mining that we can invest. but for suggestion in cloud mining, maybe you can go with hashnest because they are really mining with hardware and they are the one of the oldest cloud mining that still online until now. Both were not fine miner bro. Actually cloud mining involves many ponzi schemes and investments. I hope might know this. Then hardware mining is fine way make bitcoin income preferably you could go with solar miners or antminer. Solar will reduce you electricity charges more than all the other type of miners.
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February 11, 2017, 03:25:41 PM |
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Cloud mining is too risky, I have a bad experience with many cloud mining sites. Unfortunately I was scammed by them. One of them is Hashoceans which scams in summer 2016. So i advice you to avoid them and be carefull when you put your money. I advice people for Hardware mining, which it's a good domain to get a good profit. of course you should first invest in equipments.
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February 11, 2017, 05:13:34 PM |
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Cloud mining is too risky, I have a bad experience with many cloud mining sites. Unfortunately I was scammed by them. One of them is Hashoceans which scams in summer 2016. So i advice you to avoid them and be carefull when you put your money. I advice people for Hardware mining, which it's a good domain to get a good profit. of course you should first invest in equipments.
Cloud mining doesn't really stand a chance compared on actual hardware mining because we all know that most cloud mining are just scams and also I don't really believe on the returns that they promised because its really high actually compared on any investment site. They usually ran off on our money when they accumulate enough funds.
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February 12, 2017, 11:13:57 AM |
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Cloud mining is too risky, I have a bad experience with many cloud mining sites. Unfortunately I was scammed by them. One of them is Hashoceans which scams in summer 2016. So i advice you to avoid them and be carefull when you put your money. I advice people for Hardware mining, which it's a good domain to get a good profit. of course you should first invest in equipments.
Cloud mining doesn't really stand a chance compared on actual hardware mining because we all know that most cloud mining are just scams and also I don't really believe on the returns that they promised because its really high actually compared on any investment site[1]. They usually ran off on our money when they accumulate enough funds. [1] Actually cloud mining sites offer a much lower return than other investment sites. There's bitcoin doubler which doubles your money mostly after 100 hours. There's HYIP which from the name itself have "High-Yield". And then there's Rev share that's typically 10% return every month. Scam cloud mining sites usually offer ROI for 3-6 months depending on the website. While seemingly legit cloud mining sites would take more than a year before you ROI (again, depending on the website). I don't know why would someone be offering a legit cloud mining site if he has his own mining farm. He can take all of those profits, no need to share it to others. Maybe if there would be an actual legit cloud mining site, the KHz that you'll get for a certain price is much lower than when you bought your own mining rig.
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February 12, 2017, 11:25:49 AM |
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Why the hell cloud mining will be better when you know that nowdays there are many scams and no one will offer you such service for profit when they can to mine theirself. Of course it's better to buy latest hardware equipment and control yourself your hardware which will be forever you and when new hardware will come, you can to sell it more cheaper and buy latest and keep profitable mining. With free electricity, ROI with s9 is 140% and thay's not so bad.
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February 13, 2017, 06:27:25 AM |
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Why the hell cloud mining will be better when you know that nowdays there are many scams and no one will offer you such service for profit when they can to mine theirself. Of course it's better to buy latest hardware equipment and control yourself your hardware which will be forever you and when new hardware will come, you can to sell it more cheaper and buy latest and keep profitable mining. With free electricity, ROI with s9 is 140% and thay's not so bad.
Cloud mining site would be better than hardware mining to those people that (a.) can't afford a mining rig, (b.) don't have a place for a mining farm, (c.) high electric bills. We all know that you need to have a decent mining rig to have some actual earnings from hardware mining. Otherwise, it would take time before you can ROI or get bored and end up just selling the rig for a lower price. Supposed that there's an actual legit cloud mining site, one would think that it's much better to invest there since he can simply get a part or a percentage of the total mining power of someone that has a decent mining rig. It's like having your own mining rig but only 5% of it. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 13, 2017, 07:20:23 AM |
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I don't know why would someone be offering a legit cloud mining site if he has his own mining farm. He can take all of those profits, no need to share it to others. Maybe if there would be an actual legit cloud mining site, the KHz that you'll get for a certain price is much lower than when you bought your own mining rig.
I can explain. You have just a little cash, but you have an empty building, that could fit a lot of miners. What do you do? Offer contracts to cover the cost of hardware. Buy hardware and start mining, pay investors 50% of the profits, blame it on the maintenance fees. Pay them back some of their money and then reduce payments to scrap, blame it on the increasing difficulty. Sell the hardware.
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February 13, 2017, 09:04:26 AM |
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It still surprises me how one can even compare the two with what we have and seeing today. Its like comparing USA in terms of the advancement in technology and one Third world country. Cloud mining has never prove us wrong in two ways;
1. Majority of these sites are scams and they will remain so.
2. The few ones not scamming just forget about getting any return because it wont happen or you will have to wait forever.
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