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April 03, 2013, 06:50:00 AM
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Recently on some forum I was explaining bitcoin and faced the fact that for sceptics or novices it is difficult to dig further to understand vouge term "mathemetical problem". What mathemetical problem.

I remeber that found the explanation of it and it has a name - Byzantine generals problem.

After I answered that forum question I was curious whether Satoshi deserves such a prize for the first in history implementation of the solution.


any opinion?

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April 03, 2013, 07:27:05 AM
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First there is no Nobel prize for mathematics, only Fields medal, which is what Perelman got.

Second, I think Satoshi may deserve a Nobel prize in economics.

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April 03, 2013, 07:29:20 AM
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No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together.

Hardfork aren't that hard.
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April 03, 2013, 07:33:06 AM
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there is no new science in Bitcoin.

I disagree. The blockchain is revolutionary and will probably end up with its own spot in computing science history.
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April 03, 2013, 08:20:11 AM
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And that is why I wrote not for invention but for implementation.

so for implementation?

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April 03, 2013, 10:05:07 AM
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No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together.

All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together.
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April 03, 2013, 11:55:18 AM
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Second, I think Satoshi may deserve a Nobel prize in economics.

that's endowed by Sweden's Central Bank.  Smiley

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April 03, 2013, 12:45:20 PM
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Agree, probably does not need, but does he deserves any such a prize from any existing? and which prize he could deserve?

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April 03, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
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No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together.

All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together.
Yes. That's why inventors don't get Nobel prizes Smiley

It's a prize for science, not assembly.

Hardfork aren't that hard.
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April 03, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
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I disagree. The blockchain is revolutionary and will probably end up with its own spot in computing science history.

There's nothing new about shared transaction databases.
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April 03, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
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As a university instructor in Finance, I tell my junior colleagues that, if you trading model works, you don't need tenure.

Satoshi doesn't need a Nobel Prize.  I expect that 'he' is doing just fine.

On the other hand, the first pseudonymous Nobel Prize would be cool.

I would love him to be offered the prize in economics, and then come out of hiding just to sign a message refusing it on principle.
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April 03, 2013, 01:26:45 PM
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He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future
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April 03, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
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He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future

Cool idea!!!! Smiley

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April 03, 2013, 02:18:35 PM
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He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future

Cool idea!!!! Smiley

Obama won the Nobel Prize for Peace, so I think that until that award gets repealed (and perhaps given instead to Bradley Manning), the Nobel Prizes haven't got much legitimacy in the 21st century

+1 Satoshi Prize (I would make it a straight up Prize for Humanitarianism)

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April 03, 2013, 02:26:24 PM
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There's nothing new about shared transaction databases.

The application and implementation of the blockchain is new. Can you point me to another version of Bitcoin's blockchain before 2009?
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April 03, 2013, 02:59:44 PM
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No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together.

All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together.
Yes. That's why inventors don't get Nobel prizes Smiley

It's a prize for science, not assembly.

Agree, but I hope you realize that even when doing science, one still utilizes and assembles pre-existing tools, unless nobel laureates also have to reinvent eg mathmatics.
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