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October 20, 2016, 11:36:49 AM
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Does somebody know if it is possible to mine crypto currency with Hardware Security Modules (HSM)?
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October 20, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
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It's not a video card in any way,shape or form.............  Roll Eyes

So,uh no  Wink

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October 20, 2016, 10:38:48 PM
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Given the support for SHA-1 and SHA-2 at 256 bit, it MIGHT be possible to write a kludge program to get it to mine Bitcoin - but it's not going to be competative with a Bitcoin ASIC unit.

 So on a PRACTICAL basis, no.


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October 20, 2016, 10:49:26 PM
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Given the support for SHA-1 and SHA-2 at 256 bit, it MIGHT be possible to write a kludge program to get it to mine Bitcoin - but it's not going to be competative with a Bitcoin ASIC unit.

 So on a PRACTICAL basis, no.
Exactly. Cards like that are for secure end-to-end encryption/decryption of data, mainly banking transactions. For that use the keys are known to both parties at each end so they are not trying to 'crack' the hash, just process the data streams in/out.

AMD has some monster GPU's geared exactly for that use. Truth be told, 16nm chips for those specifically targeted at Banking and other Financial xfr usage is something like >50% of AMD's chips that they get from TSMC with the rest being for more mundane 'regular' GPU's and support memory chips.

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October 21, 2016, 02:52:13 AM
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Given the support for SHA-1 and SHA-2 at 256 bit, it MIGHT be possible to write a kludge program to get it to mine Bitcoin - but it's not going to be competative with a Bitcoin ASIC unit.

 So on a PRACTICAL basis, no.
Exactly. Cards like that are for secure end-to-end encryption/decryption of data, mainly banking transactions. For that use the keys are known to both parties at each end so they are not trying to 'crack' the hash, just process the data streams in/out.

AMD has some monster GPU's geared exactly for that use. Truth be told, 16nm chips for those specifically targeted at Banking and other Financial xfr usage is something like >50% of AMD's chips that they get from TSMC with the rest being for more mundane 'regular' GPU's and support memory chips.

So you are telling me that 50% of every Polaris GPU ever produced is bought by a bank for this HSM

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June 20, 2017, 12:40:26 PM
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A high capacity PCIe form HSM can sign 7000 SHA-1 Signing per second. So, You application must be talk with HSM and needs to be intragrated into the blockchain system. I dont know if it is better than GPUs but it has some power to do mining operations. Just needs to be talk with Blockchain (API integration).

HSM's are build for securing the private key. But also can be used for signing operations and other PKI platforms/infras. Just look into to this one:  https://safenet.gemalto.com/resources/product-brief/data-protection/Luna_PCI-E_5_0_-_Product_Brief/
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