[UPDATED][ANN] - new thread open

[aioc]

Week 1 - 20/11/2016 to 27/11/2016 - 20% bonus on BTC investment
Week 2 - 27/11/2016 to 04/12/2016 - 10% bonus on BTC investment
Week 3 - 04/12/2016 to 11/12/2016 - 5% bonus on BTC investment
Week 4 - 11/12/2016 to 18/12/2016 - no bonus
Example: Invest 1 BTC during week 1 = 1.2 BTC share of payout

The bonus scheme looks good and promising. Thinking of investing some.
Suggested to my friends too and hope to have a nice future..

It's very profitable to invest on the first week I'm sure traders and investors will go on the first week
I'll also invite my friends to take a second look in this coin,this is a very good ICO to invest.

[FrilledShark]

There might be a flaw in the investment site.
I invested some of the Bitcoins I earned with your signature campaign and I have received another number, which is off by a lot.

I won't go into details here, but mandica contact me if you want to know more about it.

Also, is there any way you are able to change the withdrawal address? I just want to know for safety.

Well, maybe it's the 20% bonus for week 1, I will check. The math is sound.

If you invested 1 BTC it would show as 1.2 BTC in your account as 20% bonus is added. Hence, at distribution you will get 1.2 BTC worth of coins. Does that answer your concern? Take the amount you invested and add 20%, i.e. invested*1.2.

 

It does not. Can I send you the link to the ICO site without someone being able to edit the withdrawal address? If I can, I will send it to you so you can investigate.
 

Edit: I will do it either way.

It's been fixed, if you check now. There was a strange little anomaly but it's been sorted.

Yeah, it has been fixed now. I guess I just lost the extra 120% of what I invested .

Well, it is good it has been fixed and I hope this project succeeds and I will earn some of the extra back again.  

[szafa]

Joined the team wearing your signature i hope this collect more People.

[housebtc]

I think the bonus range is fair and is attractive enough to investors when compared to some ICO where there is 50% first day bonus and after that the funding is more less stop because potential investors who miss the first day bonus will look at the distribution of the bonus has unfair

[mandica]

I think the bonus range is fair and is attractive enough to investors when compared to some ICO where there is 50% first day bonus and after that the funding is more less stop because potential investors who miss the first day bonus will look at the distribution of the bonus has unfair

I think 1 week of high bonus is fair enough and it gives us a few days to get some more info out and for people to decide what to do.

[drays]

So far this project looks good, particularly I like how the lead dev is handling things, and him being competent. All the answers are on topic, and absolutely no bullshit posted yet

@mandica:
I have few questions to you, probably others also could benefit from answers to them...

Q1: could you please give a live example of a transfer done using the proposed system? The OP gives an example, with reference to Hawala, and I have read the info you posted on that matter, but still its not 100% clear to me. Particularly it was not clear, who will be the main users of the app: the end users (un-banked ones) themselves, or it supposes there still will be the intermediaries who are comfortable with exchanging SPEC instead of real money..?
A good detailed real-life example often gives more than long theory and explanation

Could you please give one for people like me?

Also two more smaller questions:
Q2: how do you plan to deploy the system? Do you think you could offer it to some people currently using Hawala; or Hawala is just something served as inspiration to you, and you don't plan to interact with its current user-base? In such case, what do you have any means to make the system popular. As you know, there are many money transfer systems, including Bitcoin itself, so there should be something to make people use yours.

Q3: you distribute 19M out of 20M. What are the plans for the remaining 1M?

Thanks!

[mandica]

So far this project looks good, particularly I like how the lead dev is handling things, and him being competent. All the answers are on topic, and absolutely no bullshit posted yet

@mandica:
I have few questions to you, probably others also could benefit from answers to them...

Q1: could you please give a live example of a transfer done using the proposed system? The OP gives an example, with reference to Hawala, and I have read the info you posted on that matter, but still its not 100% clear to me. Particularly it was not clear to me, who will be the main users of the app: the end users (un-banked ones) themselves, or it supposes there still will be the intermediaries who are comfortable with exchanging SPEC instead of real money..?
A good detailed real-life example often gives more than long theory and explanation

Could you please give one for people like me?

Also two more smaller questions:
Q2: how do you plan to deploy the system? Do you think you could offer it to some people currently using Hawala; or Hawala is just something served as inspiration to you, and you don't plan to interact with its current user-base? In such case, what do you have any means to make the system popular. As you know, there are many money transfer systems, including Bitcoin itself, so there should be something to make people use yours.

Q3: you distribute 19M out of 20M. What are the plans for the remaining 1M?

Thanks!

I will try, mind you some minor details are still being worked on. I will cite initial scenario we used as a base for discussion (Bob and Alice of course)

Q1:
Bob wants to send cash to Alice. Bob is speaking to his friend Alice who lives in rural China and they agree that Bob will send £100,- to Alice as she has been out of work for a while. They don’t have bank accounts and whilst trying to set up a bank account both Bob and Alice realize that an international money transfer is expensive and slow and they will have to provide ID documents and the whole thing will take a long time.

Bob searches Google for “cash transfer to China without a bank account” and find Spectre.Cash (SC) and decides to give it a go. Bob installs SC on his Android mobile phone and asks Alice to do the same. SC is a free to use app so it’s not a problem.

Bob activates SC and no registration is needed for cash transfer. Bob just needs to create a 'User ID' that is unique to him. Alice activates her SC app (creates a 'User ID' and enters a unique one-time “connection code” provided to her by Bob. They both “friend” each other in the SC app. Cryptographic functions makes it secure and they can both be confident that they are who they say they are. Bob and Alice can now also chat live inside the SC app in private as their communication is encrypted.

Bob configures the app to show him available SC brokers within a 2-mile radius. Bob finds that SC broker1 is available and can see that SC broker1 is able to facilitate a transfer of £100,- (using location services)

At the same time Alice has installed her SC app and set her proximity parameters for SC brokers within a 10-mile radius as she lives in rural China. (using location services)

When the proximity conditions / liquidity conditions are met, i.e. SC broker1 is within 2 miles of Bob and SC broker2 is within 10 miles of Alice and SC broker1 and SC broker2 are both able to facilitate a £100,- transfer (cash > SPEC and SPEC > cash), Bob can click “INITIATE TRANSFER”. This created a temporary secure connection between Bob and Alice and broadcast request to the brokers who have marked themselves available for trade.

This will alert all parties that Bob is looking to send £100,- and open a chat between Bob and SC Broker 1 and on the other side open a chat between Alice and SC broker 2 so they can all agree to meet up.

Alice will accept the transfer and Bob’s and Alice’s SC apps will exchange “secret” addresses that is unknown to the brokers.

SC broker1 and SC broker2 also accepts the transfer request.

Bob meets SC broker1 and gives him £100,-. Using the NFC or QR codes or other codes, SC broker1 accepts the trade and 100 SPEC is sent to Alice’s secret SPEC address in escrow.

Alice meets SC broker2 who gives Alice Yuan currency equivalent to £100,-. Alice accepts the trade and the 100 SPEC is sent to SC brokers2 SPEC account.

The thing is that Bob and Alice do not need to know anything about cryptocurrencies or SPEC. SC broker1 and SC broker2 are the "Hawala" intermediaries and they could be "roaming" or they could be based in a geographical location.

If you are familiar with Localbitcoin and Uber, this is sort of a combination of the two.

It may sound a bit convoluted bit the overall effect is the same as a classic "Hawala" transactions. Hawala intermediaries today advertise their services in local papers and through community links as this is a service normally used by poorer layers of society and people wishing to send money "back home" wherever that might be. This is a good short example here: http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/10/economist-explains-12

Then at the back of each successful transaction a "null" transaction is created that will rate the success of the main transaction based on some criteria. A decentralised trust model that doesn’t require knowing the identity of the participants, and doesn’t require the ability to correlate their transactions, but maintains a trust score for network participants. Some sort of fee structure will also have to be agreed upon, likely to be based on the exchange rates.

Q2
An Android app is being built first. This is imagined as a free app and there is no revenue stream from the app. Once its done, release it into the "wild" as it were to enable people to make such transactions and release the source code. PR is an essential part of the project past phase one to make people aware that the app exists. This is where we imagine spending funds, PR and also hire specialist programmers to solve any issues along the way. Shake things up a bit and release something that undermines traditional money transfer and protects privacy.

Q3
1 mill will be split in 5, so 200k to each of the four team members as a share (stake) to ensure an interest in staying together and taking the project to its final destination. 200k for some select bounties and incentives to get the system going in a time past the main distribution. No bounties will be paid out at all to anyone at this stage and not for a while. There is no intended revenue stream from app and funds raised is intended to get the system created and released. The 200k retained by the dev team is "pay" if you like. We obviously believe that if we have a moderately successful ICO that we can push the value of SPEC up and once the main exchanges can see what this is about they will want to list SPEC.

[kaconk]

change the title this thread dev.
its not PRE-ANN again 

[mandica]

I have changed the title now

[Yutikas_11920]

I think the bonus range is fair and is attractive enough to investors when compared to some ICO where there is 50% first day bonus and after that the funding is more less stop because potential investors who miss the first day bonus will look at the distribution of the bonus has unfair

I think 1 week of high bonus is fair enough and it gives us a few days to get some more info out and for people to decide what to do.

Yeah it is very correct thinking friend. But I also hope that this also gives a good impact in performance and growth of the SPEC that you manage and hopefully could be one of a very large cryptocurrency and can help everyone in the world needs this. Wait for the growth that happens and boasting with it. Good work and do the best for everyone

[fortunecrypto]

I think the bonus range is fair and is attractive enough to investors when compared to some ICO where there is 50% first day bonus and after that the funding is more less stop because potential investors who miss the first day bonus will look at the distribution of the bonus has unfair

I think 1 week of high bonus is fair enough and it gives us a few days to get some more info out and for people to decide what to do.

Sometimes investors and traders observe first how the Ico perform before they invest,and the distribution bonus is not only fair,but they will not think that they have missed the train

[ICONEWS]

Add to iconews.org.
http://www.iconews.org/spectrecoin-start-ico/

[mandica]

Add to iconews.org.
http://www.iconews.org/spectrecoin-start-ico/

Thanks for the ad, I will include it on the main page.

[temmuz]

I think the privacy is nice.
Graphically, it needs to be more beautiful.
It looks very simple, the investor looks at the details.

[mandica]

I think the privacy is nice.
Graphically, it needs to be more beautiful.
It looks very simple, the investor looks at the details.

I am planning maybe some more detail. I would that investors would look at the potential this has to transform cryptocurrency and be really subversive.

[drays]

<questions>

I will try, mind you some minor details are still being worked on. I will cite initial scenario we used as a base for discussion (Bob and Alice of course)

<answers>

Thanks a lot, that clear things up quite a bit!

There is one point I am not so sure about - you assume both Bob and Alice have Android phones... Given the pace the technology is evolving, this could be a reasonable assumption, but from other hand, if we consider this transfer system being a replacement of Hawala-type systems, one should account for the case where the parties just do not have an advanced phone; especially this refers to the one who receives the funds, but could be true for both.
For un-banked people this could be a problem, both because of financial issues (smartphones are still expensive to some), and personal views (some people just hate technology and would refrain from using smartphone). Those people are however the target userbase of the project (besides the brokers), right?

Is there a scenario considered allowing the funds sender and (especially) recipient, to avoid using smartphones?

[jamyr]

I think the privacy is nice.
Graphically, it needs to be more beautiful.
It looks very simple, the investor looks at the details.

I am planning maybe some more detail. I would that investors would look at the potential this has to transform cryptocurrency and be really subversive.

Good Day!

I have not downloaded the app yet but will certainly do as soon as time allows me to do so. Are there rewards feature on this app? For example, earn specific number of reward points for referring someone. The wallet that I am using now have this feature.

[mandica]

<questions>

I will try, mind you some minor details are still being worked on. I will cite initial scenario we used as a base for discussion (Bob and Alice of course)

<answers>

Thanks a lot, that clear things up quite a bit!

There is one point I am not so sure about - you assume both Bob and Alice have Android phones... Given the pace the technology is evolving, this could be a reasonable assumption, but from other hand, if we consider this transfer system being a replacement of Hawala-type systems, one should account for the case where the parties just do not have an advanced phone; especially this refers to the one who receives the funds, but could be true for both.
For un-banked people this could be a problem, both because of financial issues (smartphones are still expensive to some), and personal views (some people just hate technology and would refrain from using smartphone). Those people are however the target userbase of the project (besides the brokers), right?

Is there a scenario considered allowing the funds sender and (especially) recipient, to avoid using smartphones?

There is a limit to what old tech can do I guess and it is aimed at an emerging market and is a first application. There is a great potential for other uses and possibly other applications as well. It can also be used as a payment app you know. The tech is essentially just a "trustless" chain of transfers.

[bitcoinissatan]

Not too big to campaigns and things that limit people to campaign for at least a signature look was very tight
all competing on other ICO

[drays]

<questions>

I will try, mind you some minor details are still being worked on. I will cite initial scenario we used as a base for discussion (Bob and Alice of course)

<answers>

Thanks a lot, that clear things up quite a bit!

There is one point I am not so sure about - you assume both Bob and Alice have Android phones... Given the pace the technology is evolving, this could be a reasonable assumption, but from other hand, if we consider this transfer system being a replacement of Hawala-type systems, one should account for the case where the parties just do not have an advanced phone; especially this refers to the one who receives the funds, but could be true for both.
For un-banked people this could be a problem, both because of financial issues (smartphones are still expensive to some), and personal views (some people just hate technology and would refrain from using smartphone). Those people are however the target userbase of the project (besides the brokers), right?

Is there a scenario considered allowing the funds sender and (especially) recipient, to avoid using smartphones?

There is a limit to what old tech can do I guess and it is aimed at an emerging market and is a first application. There is a great potential for other uses and possibly other applications as well. It can also be used as a payment app you know. The tech is essentially just a "trustless" chain of transfers.

Sure, I understand old tech is limited and you cannot write an app for old "dumb" cellphone

But what about giving a possibility at least for the recipient of funds to avoid using a smartphone, but just use a code-word instead (entered at smartphone of dealer 2)...?

In any case, good luck to your project. I surely do not want to push you do something. Just want to see if this could be really used to bring a tech advancements to the people who do not have/understand/like technology. They could be a very good target market. Generally speaking, I believe the further the clients are from tech world, the bigger the benefits of tech can be for them, and so bigger margins could be expected for someone entering the field.