loan needed

[heleen1]

Good day everyone.  My name is heleen I'm from south Africa.  I'm in need of a urgent loan of 2btc. I do not have any. Collateral. Other than this acc and a coinbase acc. I need this loan to make a better llife for my kids. I want to invest it.  I'm willing to send proof of residence and proof of identity. People can look me up on Facebook my name on Facebook is heleen-mari niki krog.  I'm a business minded person.  I want the loan for 30days and Will pay back 2.5btc. I'm asking for the loan here because I don't have a proof of income that's exceptable to loan companies.

Please consider my plea.
Thank you

[stiffbud]

Hi heelen your account is worth nothing and your coinbase account is useless. I can create my own coinbase account if I want to without spending anything.
I am surprised that you have kids yet you do not have a proper job to support them. 

[Doamader]

Its a big ammount to trust into you without a valid colateral, soo i really doubt someone will lend you such without the valid colateral, if you get account or altcoins worthing atleast 120% the ammount you asking we may deal.

[numanoid]

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Go ask to your family, this isn't donation forum or something like that. The Number one rules on here (lending section) is NO collateral NO LOAN, you're also asking a big loan there, no one gonna fill your request.
(no idea why you're shared your identity (maybe it's not you, who knows), it's useless information)

[sulendra12]

If you're a business minded person , you should know how to get money with working not asking for loan in here (Only one thing you can do) open your business or anything else you can do to get money. 2btc is more than $1700 without collateral your offer is useless (even you have , no one will lend you)

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As pointed by numanoid , you can make fake documents or proof ID to make it legit (this is an old scam attempt , we're more clever than before).

With your account (Newbie , and goes offline after making a thread) you're just waste your time in here.

[Chris!]

I want to invest it.

Red flags:

• You made this account for the sole purpose of asking for a huge loan
• The huge loan would be unsecured (no collateral, because your collateral offered is worthless)
• You're offering a 25% return in only a month but don't explain what you're doing with the 2BTC

No one is going to fund this. If you can't prove income it's because you're trying to avoid taxes so just get a real job or start offering a service with value on this forum.

[heleen1]

Thank you everyone for your comments. I do have a real job I'm a office lady at a transport company. The reason I can't give the banks the proof they want is because we don't get payslips here at this company. I gave my details not because its fake but so people can see that I have nothing against my name. I will take all your advise into consideration sorry for wasting your time but hey it was worth the try. If you have a dream keep on fighting for it one day you will get there.You

[Joel_Jantsen]

Thank you everyone for your comments. I do have a real job I'm a office lady at a transport company. The reason I can't give the banks the proof they want is because we don't get payslips here at this company.

Since I live in a third world country,I do understand the pay-slip situation.But,even if the pay-slips were given,chances are,banks won't give you the loan.Weather it be personal/home loan.Ultimately,your salary decides + your property.

I gave my details not because its fake but so people can see that I have nothing against my name. I will take all your advise into consideration sorry for wasting your time but hey it was worth the try. If you have a dream keep on fighting for it one day you will get there.You

Let's be practical here,no one would ever send you $1000 unless they're doing a charity or they're a fool.

[heleen1]

Thank you Joel for not being mean like the others I was in tears because of some of the comments because I didn't ask for charity I asked for a loan. I don't want a hand out I wanted a hand up.  all they have to say is sorry no the risk is to high or something like that they don't have to criticize me and accuse me of things that's not true. But hey people are mean always have and always will be. I will not give up I will keep on improving myself and life for my kids or die trying.  who knows maybe soon ill be the one that can offer a loan here.
Thank you everyone
Stay blessed

[PremiumCodeX]

I could and want to help you, but could you please elaborate more this "invest it" process? I am sure that providing more transparency on the technical details of your end-to-end process until return output will help you obtain better offers.

[sulendra12]

Can you explain , what do you want to do if you have 2 btc ? (you want to invest , where..?) . But if you have skill , or want to working in real life with your skill for sure you can make your life more brighter and your kids should be happy to see you're  working .
As stated with members here , without collateral it's going to be worthless offer (and without collateral the lenders fells would be scammed if haven't any collateral to be defaulted ) because this is the rule , we couldn't against it.

I will not give up I will keep on improving myself and life for my kids or die trying.  who knows maybe soon ill be the one that can offer a loan here.

Good luck , and if you can contributing in this forum with the "useful" thing you can be a good lender in here 

[heleen1]

The investment I want to do works in zar but because I can't get a loan I turned to bitcoin. I got involved with bitcoin when I joined zarfund last month. That was my first time that I learned about bitcoin.  the investment that I want to get involved with is fotex. I have to be honest and say I don't know much about this, that's why a friend is going to help me with this and teach me. I like to learn new things all the time it will be challenging but looks interesting and rewarding.  I want to learn this and want to do it for the long run. I asked my friend that if I make the loan to join fortex trading will I be able to repay the loan and she said yes I can pay back within a month. I need R20000 to trade which is 2.21btc but ill add the extra 0.21btc (R2000) myself that's why I didn't include it in my loan request. The amount I offered to pay back is R22653.73  if I go by todays exchange rate.  I know its a lot of money to borrow and it makes me nervous just thinking about it. But I'm a honest hard working person and I know I can learn fortex trading and make a success of it.

[jaceefrost]

The investment I want to do works in zar but because I can't get a loan I turned to bitcoin. I got involved with bitcoin when I joined zarfund last month. That was my first time that I learned about bitcoin.  the investment that I want to get involved with is fotex. I have to be honest and say I don't know much about this, that's why a friend is going to help me with this and teach me. I like to learn new things all the time it will be challenging but looks interesting and rewarding.  I want to learn this and want to do it for the long run. I asked my friend that if I make the loan to join fortex trading will I be able to repay the loan and she said yes I can pay back within a month. I need R20000 to trade which is 2.21btc but ill add the extra 0.21btc (R2000) myself that's why I didn't include it in my loan request. The amount I offered to pay back is R22653.73  if I go by todays exchange rate.  I know its a lot of money to borrow and it makes me nervous just thinking about it. But I'm a honest hard working person and I know I can learn fortex trading and make a success of it.

You are asking a loan to invest in zarfund?Are you aware that this zarfund you are talkin about is a ponzi scheme?
read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1611539.0
Do you know what a ponzi is? Are you aware that you can loose all ypur money if you invest in it? You are putting yourself burried with such amount of loan just so you can put that money at risk is some ponzi shit!
If you say that you want to learn learn what kind of investment is that first.

[heleen1]

Jaceefrost please read I didn't say I want to invest at zarfund I said that's how I came involved and learned about bitcoins meaning I didn't know about bitcoin until I joined zarfund. I said I want to invest with fortex. That's 2 different things isn't it.

[Lone Shark]

The investment I want to do works in zar but because I can't get a loan I turned to bitcoin. I got involved with bitcoin when I joined zarfund last month. That was my first time that I learned about bitcoin.  the investment that I want to get involved with is fotex. I have to be honest and say I don't know much about this, that's why a friend is going to help me with this and teach me. I like to learn new things all the time it will be challenging but looks interesting and rewarding.  I want to learn this and want to do it for the long run. I asked my friend that if I make the loan to join fortex trading will I be able to repay the loan and she said yes I can pay back within a month. I need R20000 to trade which is 2.21btc but ill add the extra 0.21btc (R2000) myself that's why I didn't include it in my loan request. The amount I offered to pay back is R22653.73  if I go by todays exchange rate.  I know its a lot of money to borrow and it makes me nervous just thinking about it. But I'm a honest hard working person and I know I can learn fortex trading and make a success of it.

Given that, you are not investing in a ponzi scam. Another problem arises with what you want to do. It is investing in something you have not ever ventured in, no knowledge whatsoever, reliance on a friend who has no credentials to show for it, and you offer an interest so large that you cannot probably repay (including the principal).

This is us trying to help you and not to be mean to you. Asking for an extra large amount of money without any assurance on the lender that you will pay will not get you far here. Also, if ever you get that loan. Do you honestly believe you will be good at forex trading (not fortex)? Have you ever wondered, does everybody who trade in forex ever earned money or did they lose everything?

You might think forex is easy because a friend told you so. The promise of wealth beyond imagination will always be tempting, but the promise of instant wealth is an illusion this world has instilled in the minds of the people. 

I think you are better off not getting this loan. What if, you do get a loan from someone, and this person knows everything about you? Your address, your phone number, the name of your kids and where they go to school. Will you be scared? What if you default on that loan, because you lost everything in your proposed investment opportunity? What now?  You can't just say, "sorry Mr. Lender man who is not a total stranger and killer, but I lost the principal I borrowed from you. Sorry, but I can't pay you anymore." What if, that lender is not just a lender but psychopath? Will you fear for your children?

I hope you understand your situation and be open about what you want to do here. You are not an investment wizard nor a financial guru to pull this off. Heck, even the best investors will not promise a 25% return in a month!

[LoyceV]

Thank you Joel for not being mean like the others I was in tears because of some of the comments because I didn't ask for charity I asked for a loan.

If you want to borrow $1380 for 30 days and pay back $1725 (or more as Bitcoin is rising) after 30 days, you - being a business minded person - must have a solid plan on how to that kind of money.
Or wait, you don't. And like all the other sad stories you're just hoping to get free money.

The sad story seems to work though, anyone else would have gotten a big Red Trust by now.
Even if you have the best intentions, you won't be able to pay it back.

[harizen]

Jaceefrost please read I didn't say I want to invest at zarfund I said that's how I came involved and learned about bitcoins meaning I didn't know about bitcoin until I joined zarfund. I said I want to invest with fortex. That's 2 different things isn't it.

What if you read some thread here asking for a loan with the same concern like yours,providing you can able to fill up the loan, are you just give the loan easily without a valid collateral? or will just believe on their stated story easily?

We are here in virtual world and don't expect all things will just go easy as you wish. Yes you might have a valid reason but it doesn't mean it will go through easily so bear with the people's comment here. BTC2 is BTC2, that amount isn't a joke mate and you must understand that.

Since you have a real life job, then put some patience to earned the required amount so that you can invest in that trading scheme someday.