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November 02, 2016, 03:09:12 PM
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This user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=911971

Is Atari-- that I gave a $6 loan to and just to clear this up - WAS NOT PAID BACK! Although they said it was, show the proof on the blockchain then Roll Eyes

Now ever since has been asking for btc at first 0.006btc then 0.01btc all the way up to 0.05btc - WHICH WAS ALL PAID OUT! Just to not have negative feedback from Despised-Icon- and all his other Alts posted on my trust rating page because of a loan that had nothing to do with him - WHICH WAS NOT PAID BACK EITHER FROM THIS OTHER USER Kylym.

At this point he has come back again and again with deadlines for me to pay this ransom amount to him or he will continue posting negative feedback on my trust page. I don't know how many has been put on since last night approx 12 hours ago since I told him I am not paying one more bit to him because he will just come back once he gets the 0.1btc that he asked me for and post more negative feedback that just links to the loan thread of Atari-- that I lent to him.
This guy needs to have a DT put on his account because he is still asking for loans to fund his gambling problem (poker player that does not know the meaning of morals and asking others to feed his gambling addiction).

Will post the log with all the harassment he has sent to me from the beginning if that will put an end to this pathetic person abusing others trust on the forum.
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November 02, 2016, 03:47:00 PM
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You should have known better than to entertain a Newbie and their loan requests. You emboldened his to keep this crap up. There are reasons newbies requesting loans are tagged.
As for the spam Trust, his accounts Trust left don't mean a thing and if the spam is bad enough, it may get cleaned up by Theymos.

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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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November 02, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
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You should have known better than to entertain a Newbie and their loan requests. You emboldened his to keep this crap up. There are reasons newbies requesting loans are tagged.
As for the spam Trust, his accounts Trust left don't mean a thing and if the spam is bad enough, it may get cleaned up by Theymos.

So you are saying that I deserve this harassment and abuse from this beggar because I gave him a small amount at the time just to get him to stop asking every 2 hours for a loan?
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

What? I'm not Atari. OP had to verify me because people thought I was him. But I am not. Sorry.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

I'm not worried about people thinking I'm Atari anymore, it's been verified that I am not. I'm not quite sure how that came into question but it's been settled. If you're that seriously about your account and that negative feedback effects you so much, I'll take it off for 0.05 and your promise you will lighten up and watch the way you handle certain situations.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Send to the one I just sent you. It's directly to my personal account. Not business account as provided in loan request.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Feedback is removed. Don't think I won't put it back on if you don't send the coins.

Tell me when it's sent.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Okay man.. Don't let me catch you slipping. But, we're good now.
!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

You can text me when the funds are sent if I'm not available. 7047267529
Again, I will not remove feedback until this payment is paid.
I PROMISE you, this will be the last you hear from me.
FYI this 0.05 will be shared with the fourm in fun and games as prizes.
This will redeem yourself and I for accepting a bribe when I shouldn't have, and I'm feeling guilty. So, send this payment to the same previous address as before. Once it's confirmed. Feedback will be removed and I'll even add a PLUS+ trust feedback.

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

This is your final warning. I will not say it again. I'll spend all day giving you bad feedbacks. You failed to pay the 0.05. Payment is now 0.1


This address : 33nKvtLqXuvEGY6JXjoNMsWNwQ9LCP41zn

MONEY FIRST OR I WILL NOT REMOVE FEEDBACK

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

You have until 6pm
NO, I will not remove feedback until I see the coins hit my account.
And I will continue to add more after 6pm if you haven't paid

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

And good luck trying to "make a case"
You're fucked. Send the money now

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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

Hahahahahahahahaha you're a fucking IDIOT!!!!! Lmao!!!!
You LOOSE!!!

Pay up bitch or this will never end for you.

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November 02, 2016, 04:11:18 PM
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Yep. You opened that can of worms, enjoy.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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November 02, 2016, 04:24:48 PM
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Why would you care though? It's untrusted feedback so it won't affect your account.If you are annoyed by the pms just ignore the accounts(and any more alts that you find).
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November 02, 2016, 04:43:38 PM
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Why would you care though? It's untrusted feedback so it won't affect your account.If you are annoyed by the pms just ignore the accounts(and any more alts that you find).
What do you think I have been doing? They just come up with similar accounts with the same demands.
Wouldn't you be annoyed if this happened to you?
Yep. You opened that can of worms, enjoy.
Yeah KWH I did but is it still alright to constantly be harassed over and over again by the same user even though they keep denying they are the member that you know that they are?
I see you have received red feedback from their alts already (Amexservesale) which I accused of being an alt of Atari-- when all this started and then that was removed because he said I was a spammer/scammer on his posts (because I did not have any evidence)with the loan that I gave to him(Atari--) and I was demanding it paid back by that time. I paid his demands of 0.006btc to him then he removed the red feedback but then came back and demanded $20 worth  more that was put on my account. I paid that amount because i felt somehow I was in the wrong.That is the only reason why I paid these ransom amounts without having my trust profile page abused by him and these other alts as it is now.
If you don't view this as extortion then I have no more faith in how justice is viewed here.
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November 02, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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November 02, 2016, 05:31:50 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives towards requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).
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November 02, 2016, 05:35:46 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.
Ok now I do see as a red.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.

Thanks to you KWH.
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.
Ok now I do see as a red.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.

Thanks to you KWH.

YW. You now know why many will NOT work with Newbies. Keep in mind, many are not new just new accounts created to scam as much as possible.

When the subject of buying BTC with Paypal comes up, I often remember this: 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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November 02, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.
Ok now I do see as a red.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.

Thanks to you KWH.

YW. You now know why many will NOT work with Newbies. Keep in mind, many are not new just new accounts created to scam as much as possible.
Still going at it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666470.0

I don't know why more DT aren't tagging this filth so to stop this nonsense.
Admins should step in because nobody else is really taking anything he is doing here seriously.
He has taken $300 possibly in false trades and defaulted loans from everybody in the forum thus far in the past two weeks(started with me on Oct 23th) just from these 4 alt accounts.
I am not paying 0.1btc to anyone for removal of a trust rating received from a scammer. Nor why should I?
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November 02, 2016, 08:25:10 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.
Ok now I do see as a red.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.

Thanks to you KWH.

YW. You now know why many will NOT work with Newbies. Keep in mind, many are not new just new accounts created to scam as much as possible.
Still going at it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666470.0

I don't know why more DT aren't tagging this filth so to stop this nonsense.
Admins should step in because nobody else is really taking anything he is doing here seriously.
He has taken $300 possibly in false trades and defaulted loans from everybody in the forum thus far in the past two weeks(started with me on Oct 23th) just from these 4 alt accounts.
I am not paying 0.1btc to anyone for removal of a trust rating received from a scammer. Nor why should I?

Then don't worry about the 0.1 btc.

He may have scammed funds but that's it. I think most people would deny a loan request or a trade from a newbie like that who has no reputation and a high likelihood of being a scammer. And if they do accept it like you did, then they learn a valuable lesson - one that's hopefully worth the amount they lost.

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November 02, 2016, 09:51:28 PM
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Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).

Look again.
Ok now I do see as a red.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.

Thanks to you KWH.

YW. You now know why many will NOT work with Newbies. Keep in mind, many are not new just new accounts created to scam as much as possible.
Still going at it:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666470.0

I don't know why more DT aren't tagging this filth so to stop this nonsense.
Admins should step in because nobody else is really taking anything he is doing here seriously.
He has taken $300 possibly in false trades and defaulted loans from everybody in the forum thus far in the past two weeks(started with me on Oct 23th) just from these 4 alt accounts.
I am not paying 0.1btc to anyone for removal of a trust rating received from a scammer. Nor why should I?

Then don't worry about the 0.1 btc.

He may have scammed funds but that's it. I think most people would deny a loan request or a trade from a newbie like that who has no reputation and a high likelihood of being a scammer. And if they do accept it like you did, then they learn a valuable lesson - one that's hopefully worth the amount they lost.
Why would I worry about the 0.1btc that he threatened me to pay to him as you can clearly see from the pm log near the end of this cluster fu(khead's attempts to get more funds from me.
In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.
I did warn a hero member from losing alittle btc at first and likely alot more later on from his attempts of extortion by his corrupt mind's logic he has put in the lending and now the goods and services section. So saving one person from this miserable leech was well worth the amount that I have lost to this pathetic excuse for a human being.
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November 02, 2016, 09:57:55 PM
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Why would I worry about the 0.1btc that he threatened me to pay to him as you can clearly see from the pm log near the end of this cluster fu(ks attempts to get more funds from me. In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.

Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.



The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?

Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within  24 hours.

If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.

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Why would I worry about the 0.1btc that he threatened me to pay to him as you can clearly see from the pm log near the end of this cluster fu(ks attempts to get more funds from me. In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.

Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.



The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?

Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within  24 hours.

If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.
But he is asking for more than that. That is the problem here!:
$20 to participate in a poker tournament. Has already lost the 0.08btc that I paid out to him in a few days. Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669053.msg16757772#msg16757772

And this thread shows the same cell phone number and possibly a paxful account to trace this moron:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1617179.msg16252109#msg16252109
I've recently found myself buying, reselling, investing, spending bitcoins in my everyday life. I am now awaiting on withdraws which take 7-10 days in my business and I'm needing coins in the mean time. I'm only looking for 0.165 and willing to repay 60% within 10 days maximum. I don't have proper collateral which has put me in a hard place to actually get a loan. I'm willing to provide any information requested and knowing this isn't proper collateral but I'm willing to stake my Paxful account which has great buyer feedback with a trade history of a total of 1,585$ .. If anyone out there is willing to work with me please text or reply back here
704-726-7529


So as you can see this will never stop neither will the negative rep that he continues to give to my trust profile. Rapist now? He can not even spell it properly so that tells you of his literacy level. Roll Eyes
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November 02, 2016, 10:43:01 PM
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I don't know anybody who would send money to someone for a poker tournament who hasn't even brought up any statistics, has 0 reputation, and is looking for a $10 buy-in.

Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.

How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.



Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.

Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.

What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.

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I don't know anybody who would send money to someone for a poker tournament who hasn't even brought up any statistics, has 0 reputation, and is looking for a $10 buy-in.

Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.

How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.



Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.

Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.

What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.
Thats the thing.
Before I mentioned all this he did not have any negative that showed up until KWH put his on there.
A DT member should of put it on there when he was asking and it was known he was Atari and AmexSaleServe which I pointed out in his selling threads but nobody listened and I removed my posts because he said I was giving false accusations on his posts and had the evidence. That being the proof enough to give me negative feedback and use that as the reference link towards my profile's trust page.
He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
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He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
KWH is in DT 2(check your trust settings), so their trust feedback should show for everyone regardless of who they are.
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Lionidas, you really ought to put a reference link in with your negative feedback.   Everyone else is referencing this thread and not the one where you sent him money. 

Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin.  You fell right into a scammer's trap.

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