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November 03, 2016, 05:17:34 AM
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November 03, 2016, 05:21:08 AM
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Avoid transacting with anybody you dont know. There is no way because sometimes evn those reputable here are ending up to scam people. You have to think twice whether if you get scammed you afford to lose whatever a scammer takes from you or dont do any deal with anybody.
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November 03, 2016, 05:29:05 AM
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Don't trust anyone (especially new users).
Verify the trust level of that user. If you see a red mark there: stay away (that mean the user is a scammer).
If you want to make a deal with another member, use a escrow.
There are may members here in forum wich offer a escrow service (some of them for free).

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November 03, 2016, 05:30:31 AM
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The best protection that you can get in this forum is always get an escrow and the kind of escrow that is known and trusted because there escrow wannabies out there who will volunteer to be an escrow to a deal just to get a positive feedback. Other than getting an escrow, I cant think of anything else on how not to be scammed here.
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November 03, 2016, 08:03:21 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Usually the one who send pm to random member can't be trusted. Look at the trust those members had before trusting anyone in this forum. And also always try to use escrow for even a deal with small amount of bitcoin.

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November 03, 2016, 08:12:16 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Too many the people are promoting their service are having a high chance for to be a fraud, someone is trusting will not for directly making any PM in your inbox. I guess this is just used by the people are having a low trust level, don't trust someone in this cases, without making any PM for you the trusted person are already having a lot of the people are know him in this place.

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November 03, 2016, 08:16:40 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
If someone is messaging you personally which would be a scam you could start a thread in accusation regarding it and you could expose if you think they are planning to scam you,there are no services provided by bitcointalk but the service section is used by its members,so be careful when you are dealing with money
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November 03, 2016, 11:01:44 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...


We'll mostly of them offered such to good to be true offers and untrue situation of their business establishments,sites and etc, and thats totally a red flag if someone offered you such of those, just be more vigilant bad peoples are always been here watching and monitoring on those who is easy to be fooled by them, the one thing though's you should remember there's no easy way to earn money here, and no busines/sites/people can generate big profit returns from your investment.


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November 03, 2016, 01:54:49 PM
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Try to digging their account: trust, history post and what the user have been done.
Always use an escrow for any transaction, unless you can manage a transaction situation which can saving you from being scam.
Don't easy to believe stranger but doesn't rule out the possibility if someday the stranger will be a partner make you go to success.
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November 03, 2016, 02:54:27 PM
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Just don't do any deal with unknown forum members. If you want to buy or sell something use an escrow, so your transaction will be safe and you don't need to worry about scammers. There are a lot of scammers here and you must be alert everytime, just don't be fool to believe them.

 
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November 03, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
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You Have Only Two Ways By Which You can Save Yourself  From Getting Scammed By Them:-
1) The First Way is Simple You Don't Trade Will Anyone Who Don't Knows You....
2) Secondly Before Starting a Trade in this Forum Always Use Escrow For Your Trade and Also Check the Trust of the Member who Wants to trade with you.....
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November 03, 2016, 03:55:56 PM
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If they are sending messages to random users, most likey they are scammers looking for newbies as victims. If they can really be trusted, they will not have to do that to get referrals, customers will come to them.
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November 03, 2016, 04:03:08 PM
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Trust no one. Ever. If it's too good to be true then it probably is. If you're unsure about whether or not something is a scam just do what you did right now and post a thread about it. No one here is going to hold back what we think Wink that's why we're a great forum!
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November 03, 2016, 04:05:50 PM
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The first thing is check the trust rate, and see if anybody red tag the member, review some of the history made by the member can be a clue and the see the level of the member, avoid making transaction with newbie, and if you are not sure, use escrow service to do the transaction, don't trust anybody in bitcoin world


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November 03, 2016, 04:52:10 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

1) go to their profile and check their trust
2) use google and bitcointalk search to find out if there is any scam accusation against that user or if there is a reputation topic about him.
3) check out their post history and see how they were doing, is it their first trade or are they a reputable trader
4) most important one no matter who you are dealing with, you should always use an escrow!

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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

1) go to their profile and check their trust
2) use google and bitcointalk search to find out if there is any scam accusation against that user or if there is a reputation topic about him.
3) check out their post history and see how they were doing, is it their first trade or are they a reputable trader
4) most important one no matter who you are dealing with, you should always use an escrow!

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November 03, 2016, 05:30:25 PM
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Better do not respond to them. If you want to participate in any trading activities ot to avail any services, you must initiate the conversation and listening to the strangers might lead to getting scammed finally. I do get weekly 2 to 5 PM from strangers always. Just, ignoring them is the right action I do take all the times.
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thanks all for your support and help me.. your informayion really helped my now im sure to trade here and exchange currncy lot of thanks
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November 04, 2016, 01:29:20 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

In the first place, you shouldn't respond to those one. Since trading has a platform and you can trade online in a site instead of person to person EXCEPT if that person is the one you know or a legit one in this forum. Make sure to vouch them first before transacting to them. Or another alternative is that, hire an escrow from this forum to keep your money safe in that transaction. But, the safest thing to do in trading is by trading in a site because there's low risk of loosing your money.
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November 04, 2016, 03:00:48 AM
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my suggestion is don't make a deal with the person you don't know and if you want to make a deal, make sure that person have a good reputable in this forum but its not guarantee too. the best is be careful to make a deal especially if the transaction need to paid for big btc.

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November 04, 2016, 03:28:51 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
That's quite an obvious question actually. If you came accross from a stranger asking to help you out on a trade and handle you money, will allow them? If it is me I wont. What I am saying is know that persons background first and always ask help from someone that you know is trusted. Do not just plunge in to an offer just so it sounds interesting. Be sure to know more.
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November 04, 2016, 04:41:21 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

As  other members  said here "Only trust  yourself"  and  dont  even  trust anyone  even  they  PM you  even if they are  reputable  ones. As long  you are not seeking for something and they pm you then  for sure  its a shady  one and   they would  like to scam you if you  follow their conditions.  Scammers are everywhere so  you  must be  vigilant, as  i  saw you are  only a newbie  but  reading all  comments and  opinions here you would definitely avoid of getting being scammed.

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November 04, 2016, 04:49:04 AM
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Check their trust and last post history even they have a good trust we must be careful too if that account is hacked or somehow always ask for make a deal with a escrow.

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November 04, 2016, 04:55:03 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

it is not easy to tell and it's hard to know if a person wants to help you he just want to deceive you . so my best advice would be given to you avoid transacting with so many people very often and do not trust them easily . it is very hard to make sure that they are not a fraud especially they are distant from you don't even know them .
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November 04, 2016, 05:01:13 AM
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Who ever is contacting you is not necessary that he is scammer or not, the best thing is first have chat with him and as soon as if he is telling about any investing way then better avoid him, and if some one is telling you to download the program and create profile and you will start earning , then this also you dont do it as this type of files may be exe virus which will hack your computer and steal the bitcoins.

So it is much better to first know what he is telling or better avoid it.
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November 04, 2016, 05:18:16 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

If you can obviously read and understand things that you think it can't bring a good output then no problem at all. No one will scammed if no one will be eaten by the precious words of a scammer which is literally happening especially in those people who wants to earn more without doing anything or just want a passive income.

Post here those usernames as a reference and those message included in their PM's.

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November 04, 2016, 05:32:23 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Hire a trusted escrow in this forum to make sure you won't get scammed. If they don't want an escrow then they have probably different motive to you.
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November 04, 2016, 05:38:10 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

i have a personal rule that says whenever someone is not willing to do things in public and takes it to private methods of communication like using personal message, skype,.... 99.9% of the time they are trying to hide something and are afraid pubic is going to catch them.

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November 04, 2016, 05:47:48 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
If you really aware and don't want to become a victim then avoid trading those who already had red trust user in this forum and don't trust newbie or new registered member's always use escrow if you are don't sure with the sellers or the buyer always keep your money safe.

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November 04, 2016, 06:57:36 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

i have a personal rule that says whenever someone is not willing to do things in public and takes it to private methods of communication like using personal message, skype,.... 99.9% of the time they are trying to hide something and are afraid pubic is going to catch them.

For sure, if they  hide  their  true  identity  on   public then they have really bad  motives for sure especially when they  would only  like to make conversations  on Personal  message which  we should be  cautious  and  vigilant  regarding on the  intention of  other  people who  does  PM you.  Like others members said here if they say that you would able to download such files and  give  suspicious  links then better to avoid those  from the start.

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November 04, 2016, 07:59:50 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

i have a personal rule that says whenever someone is not willing to do things in public and takes it to private methods of communication like using personal message, skype,.... 99.9% of the time they are trying to hide something and are afraid pubic is going to catch them.

For sure, if they  hide  their  true  identity  on   public then they have really bad  motives for sure especially when they  would only  like to make conversations  on Personal  message which  we should be  cautious  and  vigilant  regarding on the  intention of  other  people who  does  PM you.  Like others members said here if they say that you would able to download such files and  give  suspicious  links then better to avoid those  from the start.

As expected they   really have  bad  motive if they dont tend to show their  faces  to people because they will got  busted so easily if they do such foolish things  into others, thats why its  important to be  knowledgeable  into  these  kind  of  things   so that  we would not be  victimized so easily by other people.

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November 04, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
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Probably better still continue to be cautious, especially in the new member. Because it is not necessarily trustworthy. If this forum prioritizing members already have a corresponding positive trust services, it can be trusted. But it is better to wonder beforehand. Maybe if someone sends you a private message and offered his services it is certain that it is a scam, so better to just ignore it.
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November 04, 2016, 08:56:12 AM
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thanks every one.. helped me about this.. your all information very usefull for me in feture..
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November 04, 2016, 09:13:01 AM
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people are afraid when they are rewarded for free...
You can not imagine how hard it is to offer somethings to people who ask to be rewarded...
People believe that it is impossible that I offer satoshi to my members.
Say:
Hello I offer you nothing...people trust you.
Say:
Hello I offer you 500 satoshi...people red trust you and they answer:winspiral is a scammer...

Since 1 year...I have offer to my members the opportunity to earn 12338810.42 satoshi
you can not imagine how hard it is to offer this...

You will say:
The members have worked...
ok...you are right.
but all the people who have made cash visiting my sites have got nothing because they have not claimed the reward.

All the people who have red trusted me and who critisize my horrible design and my poor English have generated cash...and they (I believe)(lol)have  not been rewarded because they have not claimed.

You can believe me and I am sure about what i will now say:
it is easier to scam people than to reward them...
I spend much time to share my incomes in a very fair way and in return I'm red trusted and taken for a scammer...
But it does not matter...I do not offer my income for being rewarded.my fun to do it is enough for me...

I will say with this:
How can one trust people here who are so wrong?
How can one ask advise for avoiding scam from people who are not able to see that I'm not a scammer?

People here can only say:
Every thing is scam and this does not help you...They are not able to see the right from the wrong...

Be careful:
do not let you misslead by people here who just write here for the "sign campaign...(lol)
(I believe I have got few friends more here) (lol)






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November 04, 2016, 10:10:26 AM
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Don't contact any newbies from the forum who are claiming to exchange above 0.3 BTC as most of them are scammers and if anyone tries to contact you on skype (imposing as a reputed member of the forum), they can most likely be scammers. Since you are a newbie yourself, you cannot be trusted too and hence either use an escrow or while trading with reputed members here, try to keep a trade open on the forum so that people know whom are you trading with.

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November 04, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
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Never respond to anyone who contact and offer you their services via PM. Don't ever read them. And block them away. If they are contacting you that way, it means they are afraid to make a public announcement in this forum. It is because they are probably advertising something shady. Probably a ponzi scheme.

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November 04, 2016, 10:33:13 AM
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Never respond to anyone who contact and offer you their services via PM. Don't ever read them. And block them away. If they are contacting you that way, it means they are afraid to make a public announcement in this forum. It is because they are probably advertising something shady. Probably a ponzi scheme.

Good suggestion i've read so far, since mostly people who contact you via pm is most likely scammers and they surely offer us such huge profit that we can't imagine to earn for just quick blink, and if someone would reach out for that well block them and we should not reply to their message so their sweet message and fake proofs will not attract us and turn to be their scam victim.

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November 04, 2016, 10:40:13 AM
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Do not transact with newbies or those with negative feedback. Also when bitcoin or money is involved it is best to have an escrow.As of now,there are more scammers proliferating,be always vigilant and be careful.

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November 04, 2016, 12:56:59 PM
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Do not transact with newbies or those with negative feedback. Also when bitcoin or money is involved it is best to have an escrow.As of now,there are more scammers proliferating,be always vigilant and be careful.

Not all newbies are scammers since some of them are true to themselves and most likely active if they need to transact on anything, high rank members can be scam to since you can actually see here, they are splattering and making this furom as their opportunity fraud seeking site, we neee to be carefull for anything or anyone offer such big profits since i think that one is can be our red flag to tell that service or people is scam.

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November 04, 2016, 02:44:20 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

I do not know, What would be your wish and just you are saying you receiving kind of service PMs. However you are like a scammers by showing your profile trust is negative. So lock this thread and make yourself perfect first before asking about scam attempts.
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November 04, 2016, 03:05:41 PM
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Nowadays its hard to trust anyone here. Maybe they check
your account how you earn bitcoin. I suggest not to entertain
someone who stalk you or who always offer services. As we can
observe there are still bitcoin users wants to hacked or to fool
someone just get bitcoin fast.
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Nowadays its hard to trust anyone here. Maybe they check
your account how you earn bitcoin. I suggest not to entertain
someone who stalk you or who always offer services. As we can
observe there are still bitcoin users wants to hacked or to fool
someone just get bitcoin fast.

Scammers are  everywhere  and   they  come  unexpectedly and they  would do  whatever things they would  need  have to done just  to make  and steal money from  anyone.  In the case if someone you dont  know   is  keep messaging you about some  stuffs then be sure that you are aware on  such  possible action  that might   be  requested for you to do. In that case  disregard it  and  dont entertain it.

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November 08, 2016, 01:46:24 PM
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Nowadays its hard to trust anyone here. Maybe they check
your account how you earn bitcoin. I suggest not to entertain
someone who stalk you or who always offer services. As we can
observe there are still bitcoin users wants to hacked or to fool
someone just get bitcoin fast.

Scammers are  everywhere  and   they  come  unexpectedly and they  would do  whatever things they would  need  have to done just  to make  and steal money from  anyone.  In the case if someone you dont  know   is  keep messaging you about some  stuffs then be sure that you are aware on  such  possible action  that might   be  requested for you to do. In that case  disregard it  and  dont entertain it.

Be safe all the time, scammers is uncontrolled but if you are aware of them and you are vigilant everytime and you suspect their 1st move towards on you maybe they will have the reasons to keep away from you right? So in order to make sure whose the one you are transacting with you first get his personal informations, backgrounds experiences online and everything that will gain you trust and lastly consult expert friends in analyzing online transactions through strangers you don't know yet. Again to avoid scammers just don't let them steal your trust.

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November 08, 2016, 02:44:24 PM
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As i saw  on  OP he gained   negative trust  from a DT member  Lutpin  which states  hes a  liar  scammer and thief and  now  OP is askin advice  from the community?  what  hes  intention  or  trying to show  on  public?
Back  to topic  you could   eventually know  if  you meet a scammer  if  you see  that  there are thing are  not right  anymore regarding  on your transaction then its better to stay away to avoid  of getting scammed.

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You can use a known and trusted escrow to be the middle man. Otherwise you should only do transactions with trusted members that have a long history on this site. Even then you can't be sure that the account was not sold.

 
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Most of the newbies while entering the bitcoin use during the starting days easily gets scammed. This happens due to the overwhelming expectations of being rich through different earning methods of bitcoin.

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November 09, 2016, 02:51:22 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

So you are asking how to be safe from people just like you? Just look upon on your trust a very trusted person here in forum gave you some red trust. But let's go back to your question, you can just simply ask an escrow so that you won't get scam transaction and only those trusted escrows here in forum, because scammers are everywhere.

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November 09, 2016, 05:03:33 AM
 #48

Nowadays its hard to trust anyone here. Maybe they check
your account how you earn bitcoin. I suggest not to entertain
someone who stalk you or who always offer services. As we can
observe there are still bitcoin users wants to hacked or to fool
someone just get bitcoin fast.

yeah because they are everywhere and we don't actually notice them easily , they are hard to be traced once they have took away your money or stuffs from you because it seems to be impossible to know their location especially when we talking about bitcoin . so it better to be cautious and do not trust any around you on the internet and keep your stuffs in safe also do not give a lot of information about you .
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November 09, 2016, 05:13:59 AM
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You can use a known and trusted escrow to be the middle man. Otherwise you should only do transactions with trusted members that have a long history on this site. Even then you can't be sure that the account was not sold.

This is the only thing we can do to avoid scammers, even though there was a history about trusted escrow that did something bad. Doing transaction online is always risky, we do not know who are going to deal with us personally. My suggestion, dont do online transaction with others if it is not too significant.
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November 09, 2016, 05:17:45 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

So you are asking how to be safe from people just like you? Just look upon on your trust a very trusted person here in forum gave you some red trust. But let's go back to your question, you can just simply ask an escrow so that you won't get scam transaction and only those trusted escrows here in forum, because scammers are everywhere.

Yeah right, an escrow is a good way not to be scammed. As long as it involves bitcoin or money, it is best to used it for your funds safety. Also, its a win win solution to both party.

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November 09, 2016, 01:15:28 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Just don`t reply to those members PMs.

Why are you asking this.Are you scammed by someone?

There is another subforum related to scam accusations.

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You can deal with everyone here as long as you use reputable escrow.  There are several reputable member here that offers escrow for some fee and others for free.  It is up to you who you would choose.  Using escrow will somehow greatly lower the risk involve in trading with other member of this forum. or Better yet never trade with other member of this forum.

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November 09, 2016, 04:20:50 PM
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations.
No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  Sad

The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  Smiley

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November 09, 2016, 04:29:29 PM
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations.
No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  Sad

The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  Smiley
I think op is just looking for a way and information with us i saw that there is negative trust by Lutpin according to him op is scammer check this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=914772

And looks like he is doing marketting strategy with fake trust feedback.. So this thread should be close..



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November 09, 2016, 04:59:32 PM
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations.
No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  Sad

The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  Smiley

that's really true , even the most trusted people you/we ever known can become a scammer anytime whenever they get seduced to the high value amount of money but i think only a few people can be like that . because of this instances we tend to not be easily giving our trust to other people even though other people are saying that he/she is a legit buyer or seller or trader .
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There is no way to be 100% safe of scams but if you are receiving PM from users you did not contact first in order to do a trade or a business with them, and you are not an established trader that could receive such messages, then it is very likely that the one contacting you is trying to scam you in some way or form.

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November 09, 2016, 06:14:38 PM
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Most of the newbies while entering the bitcoin use during the starting days easily gets scammed. This happens due to the overwhelming expectations of being rich through different earning methods of bitcoin.
yes and for this purpose they always target the some inexperience and simple minded people, you should always try to use escrow for trading with them as a middle person, and then you can make yourself safe from scammers.

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November 10, 2016, 10:44:30 AM
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations.
No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  Sad

The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  Smiley
well the scam accusations section can't cover all of scammers over this forum and even it can the scammers will simply make a new account and start to scamming again but i don't say the scam accusations section is not good,this section is definitely good to fight against scammer and to unveil what the scammed had done,the only best option is to escrow but be sure to deal with trusted escrow and had been proven having good service for long time

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November 10, 2016, 10:54:21 AM
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A simple solution would be searching for those people in scam accusations.
No one can be trusted anywhere online, even old and trusted people turn to scam sometimes..  Sad

The best way to have exchange is by having an escrow. But have a good one to have a fair transaction.  Smiley
well the scam accusations section can't cover all of scammers over this forum and even it can the scammers will simply make a new account and start to scam again,the only best option is to escrow but be sure to deal with trusted escrow and had been proven having good service for long time

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Most of the newbies while entering the bitcoin use during the starting days easily gets scammed. This happens due to the overwhelming expectations of being rich through different earning methods of bitcoin.
But you must take precaution against newbies too since there are lots of scammers that after being exposed to the community just create a new account and try to do the same all over again.

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November 10, 2016, 11:09:05 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

You do it just like IRL. That's not too hard is it?

If someone you don't know texts you with offers, advice, and "once-in-a-lifetime-opportunity" you don't just give them your trust and money.

If a total stranger suddenly approaches you and offers some kind of exchange, proposal, etc , you don't just hand over your money.

How is it any different online? If anything, this should make you more cautious.
So always, always check. Most of the scams perpetuated here could have been avoided if they had checked and if they hadn't let greed take over with "too good to be true" deals/offers. That or it's some sort of shady deal.

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November 10, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Use escrow every time you gonna make a transaction to anyone first check if there's an positive of the user so that you could see if his legit or not. And if his too greedy and he want you to send the payment first then he will scam you.
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November 11, 2016, 01:40:35 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Thats very easy. Just see at their account and when you see theres a red mark, just stay away because maybe he/she did something bad from his/her past transactions. If you see theres a green mark in his/her account, thats the one you should transact with because his/her account is reputable. You should also stay away from newbies because it was just newly created account.
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Thats very easy. Just see at their account and when you see theres a red mark, just stay away because maybe he/she did something bad from his/her past transactions. If you see theres a green mark in his/her account, thats the one you should transact with because his/her account is reputable. You should also stay away from newbies because it was just newly created account.

Green mark does not mean they are all trusted imho, there are some bought accounts with green trust iirc. Better to use trusted escrow for any transactions, keep safe is always better.
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November 11, 2016, 06:33:49 AM
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Green mark does not mean they are all trusted imho, there are some bought accounts with green trust
Now we are having alerts for password and email changes in the trust page of a user. So, we can easily identify any recently traded accounts. People are having the practice of giving neutral feedback to warn people if they come across any traded accounts with positive feedbacks.

Better to use trusted escrow for any transactions, keep safe is always better.
This must be a universal fact here, using escrow will safeguard us all the time regardless of we are dealing with green trust members or not.
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November 11, 2016, 06:39:39 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Well you must use escrow for making transaction on this forum and you can check on their account, does they have positive feedback or not from the other users, and don't make deal using reversible payment method except they can be trusted.
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November 11, 2016, 06:57:14 AM
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Escrow , the most important thing that can help you from scammer members, if me i never respond some offers that people i don't know try to offer me  Grin
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

To escape from scammers? I guess it is not that easy to look if the one you are talking to is a scammer or not, there we are lots of people trying to persuade others especially if they knew that people are in need like taking advantage to those who are in need.

But I guess here, in this industry you better be wise on whom you trust especially when you are sending bitcoin to the one you do not know, think so many times before making moves, it might lose you most, avoid the newbie as other posted, you better look at their trust rate it might help you, use escrow if you want to be paid by others for good transactions.

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Escrow , the most important thing that can help you from scammer members, if me i never respond some offers that people i don't know try to offer me  Grin
if you really have done many online transaction and so often then you will eventually meet a stranger that you don't really know,the only thing you can do is by checking out his past transactions and any feedbacks which is sent to him,never dealing with stranger will make you done nothing about transaction

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Escrow , the most important thing that can help you from scammer members, if me i never respond some offers that people i don't know try to offer me  Grin

Escrow can be a help or a disaster too the first thing i have learned during transacting online is that there is no such thing that guarante safe. Even using escrow is not safe because when the time comes in need where money can blind a person's humanity there comes a disaster to people trust him.
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November 11, 2016, 11:30:33 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Use escrow every time you gonna make a transaction to anyone first check if there's an positive of the user so that you could see if his legit or not. And if his too greedy and he want you to send the payment first then he will scam you.
Even green trust is no a guarantee that you will not be scammed since there is the possibility someone just bought that account, or is in some way abusing the trust system.

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November 11, 2016, 11:36:01 PM
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Assume that everyone is a scammer at first. Always use escrow(and by escrow I mean one of the legit escrows that have a proven track record, and multisig is preferable). Ranks don't matter as much as trust in my opinion. Full member and senior member accounts are bought and sold everyday on this forum so you better watch out and be careful.
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November 12, 2016, 03:13:15 PM
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I think the only way to prevent yourself from scammer member is to use escrow for every trade you decide to make. This is very effective and convenient for both sides. And the another way to avoid being scammed is to directly meet in the physical to  make a trade face to face.
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I think the only way to prevent yourself from scammer member is to use escrow for every trade you decide to make. This is very effective and convenient for both sides. And the another way to avoid being scammed is to directly meet in the physical to  make a trade face to face.
I doubt that many people here on the forum will want to do a face to face trade since most people here want to have a certain degree of anonymity and will not like their accounts to be linked to them.

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November 12, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
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Dont get cheated by blindly trusting others.For trading, use Escrow which is always safe.Otherwise, you would loose to an unknown person.Especially dont trust newbies.
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November 13, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
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To be safe from scammers always have an escrow everytime you have something to buy or trade from a person. Never go first because you can't say whether he is trusted or a scammer. IF he don't agree for an escrow then don't trust that person and find someone who will agree to escrow.
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November 15, 2016, 07:40:59 PM
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Dont get cheated by blindly trusting others.For trading, use Escrow which is always safe.Otherwise, you would loose to an unknown person.Especially dont trust newbies.
Always using escrow is a must but I don't think is enough to not trust newbies since you can buy accounts in the forum the lesson must be don't trust anyone period.

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November 16, 2016, 03:12:30 AM
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always use escrow for your transaction this is important thing, especially if you transaction with new account, but truly in online world like this you should not to try make a deal with strenght people without escrow

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First, don't ever try to transact with those people who are not trusted and unknown in trading industry,check their history for their transactions to make yourself secure. And don't let your transactor will always be in favor and always be fair. Just like many are saying here, to get away from those scammers use escrow.

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First, don't ever try to transact with those people who are not trusted and unknown in trading industry,check their history for their transactions to make yourself secure. And don't let your transactor will always be in favor and always be fair. Just like many are saying here, to get away from those scammers use escrow.

If we implement this kind of attitude here then market economy in bitcointalk.org will not boom.  In order to have a safe transaction with unknown people, we can use the service of escrow.  'That is the beauty of this forum, we have many reputable escrow that have established their credibility with the number of successful trades or escrowing successful trades between two  parties.

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November 16, 2016, 07:08:32 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

if about trading you can ask about portofolio
in trading use MT4 you can see portofolio in myboxfx or mql5
another service you must always escrow and colateral (if this about lending)
so you can safest

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November 16, 2016, 09:28:53 AM
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Dont get cheated by blindly trusting others.For trading, use Escrow which is always safe.Otherwise, you would loose to an unknown person.Especially dont trust newbies.
Always using escrow is a must but I don't think is enough to not trust newbies since you can buy accounts in the forum the lesson must be don't trust anyone period.
definitely, it doesn't matter how high the rank of the person are,they still have the potential to scam,especially if it's about a big money
encouraging to use escrow is a good advice but i just remind you to be sure to use only reputed escrow and had been proven good on its service
little fees doesn't really matter if it can keep your money safe

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November 20, 2016, 07:51:25 AM
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Dont get cheated by blindly trusting others.For trading, use Escrow which is always safe.Otherwise, you would loose to an unknown person.Especially dont trust newbies.
Always using escrow is a must but I don't think is enough to not trust newbies since you can buy accounts in the forum the lesson must be don't trust anyone period.
definitely, it doesn't matter how high the rank of the person are,they still have the potential to scam,especially if it's about a big money
encouraging to use escrow is a good advice but i just remind you to be sure to use only reputed escrow and had been proven good on its service
little fees doesn't really matter if it can keep your money safe
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In trying to avoid scammers by using escrow, one is not totally free, because an escrow without reputation can also scam. What I think is the best way to avoid getting scammed is to put one's greed on check, because that is what scammers capitalized on. When a deal is looking too good to be true, there is no need trying to confirm if it true or not, money does not grow on trees.
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November 20, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

You dont  need to be scam  because  you are already a scammer. So this  means  you could able to scam  yourself . hehe. Back to topic  if  you recieve  messages from people who you dont know then  you can simply disregard it and  it wont  bother you again for sure. They just  like to get your attention to  gain interactions and when  you bite up then  chances of getting scammed is high.

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November 21, 2016, 08:59:01 AM
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I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

- Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry.

- Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.

- You should always use escrow for each transaction.
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November 21, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
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I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

- Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry.

- Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.

- You should always use escrow for each transaction.

good point for this and i should remember this for my own self. better we do trading with ourself rather to work with other person that we don't know. beside that escrow is a must thing that we should thinking before we make any transaction with every person so at least we can avoid the bad thing that will happen.

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November 21, 2016, 10:32:43 AM
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Before you trade with members check their trust rating, that will tell you a lot about someone. You can also check scam accusation section, there you can see topics about possible scammers. Except that you can always use escrow and that will protect you 100 %, there is no chance someone will trade and scam you while you have founds in escrow.
Don't even think about doing business without it, protect yourself like this and you will not have any problems.



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November 21, 2016, 11:23:02 AM
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I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

- Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry.

- Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.

- You should always use escrow for each transaction.

good point for this and i should remember this for my own self. better we do trading with ourself rather to work with other person that we don't know. beside that escrow is a must thing that we should thinking before we make any transaction with every person so at least we can avoid the bad thing that will happen.
the thing which is pointed out by jonpande is about how to make transaction safely with stranger not trading,and as you stated above you said better to do trading with yourself but my question is how the hell you can trade or make a transaction with yourself,those point above is really good and can be a guidance for a newbie,just confused with your statement

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December 12, 2016, 06:41:23 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Always remember never talk to stranger, unless you know the person itself. Or you can talk to other's but never give trust 100% at once to the person.
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December 12, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
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Well, for me, you must not trust to someone you dont know, you must not make some transactions to strangers. For your finances, ignore any request to send money to the people you dont know, never give some financial information (e.g, SSS, credit card number). Be careful about sharing other personal information (e.g, full name, phone number) and be wise to everything.
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December 12, 2016, 12:37:44 PM
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First you should view that persons trust and post history.  If its red trusted or a newbie,  don't transact with that member.

Always be wary of newbies as they are the ones who mostly scam people and be sure to always use an escrow for every transaction.

And be sure to analyze what they are offering to you. If its something with a high commission or something that make you wonder on how can they make profits

with their offers are mostly scam

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December 12, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
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Stay away from red trusted members...it is said here that they scam even if they have never scammed...because you can be the first (lol)

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December 12, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
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Just always use escrow service and there are a lot of trusted people here who are offering that type of service. Also if your deal mate wants you to send bitcoins immediately then for sure that is something fishy. And much better if you want to be safe always ask some identification to prove that he is a legit one.

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December 12, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
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Just always use escrow service and there are a lot of trusted people here who are offering that type of service. Also if your deal mate wants you to send bitcoins immediately then for sure that is something fishy. And much better if you want to be safe always ask some identification to prove that he is a legit one.

That's it look for their identification and ask people here who knows if our mate is legit or not. Ask them if they think the transaction is fair and worthy. Dont trust fast better knew them well their previous  transactions and coordinate with them pleasantly. Treat each other right to be able a good transaction.
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December 13, 2016, 03:38:10 AM
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Always use escrow for transactions on the forum or at least trade with a trusted member. Don't put all your coins on exchanges, just what you need for trading.
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December 13, 2016, 05:05:27 AM
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Just always use escrow service and there are a lot of trusted people here who are offering that type of service. Also if your deal mate wants you to send bitcoins immediately then for sure that is something fishy. And much better if you want to be safe always ask some identification to prove that he is a legit one.

That's it look for their identification and ask people here who knows if our mate is legit or not. Ask them if they think the transaction is fair and worthy. Dont trust fast better knew them well their previous  transactions and coordinate with them pleasantly. Treat each other right to be able a good transaction.

It is applicable for those trust worthy people here to ask for identification but I'm still doubtful about those people who are new in this type of transaction and still its hard to trust them as we know that there are a lot of people who are buying identifications in forums. For sure some of them are using it for this type of illegal act, so the best choice is to trust for those people who have reputation built here in forum.

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December 13, 2016, 05:06:44 AM
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If you don't have any interest just neglect those message and try concentrate on your works, if you have any interest towards just don't trust them ask them to come forward and exchange your ideas through escrow in this you may be more beneficial instead loosing money. Are else better open a post and discuss with others in this forum.
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
You have Only Two Options to Prevent scam. Firstly I Suggest you to Stop Dealing with the people here you don't know and always use an escrow if you want to trade with anyone in this forum. And Before Starting the trade always check the trust rating of the person you are trading with. It will helps to to avoid scams.
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December 13, 2016, 08:37:57 AM
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use escrow to transaction of people here, I think it safe from scammer
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
You have Only Two Options to Prevent scam. Firstly I Suggest you to Stop Dealing with the people here you don't know and always use an escrow if you want to trade with anyone in this forum. And Before Starting the trade always check the trust rating of the person you are trading with. It will helps to to avoid scams.


We are on world wide web we cannot avoid to deal with unknown people since this place is huge men, and sometimes the things we need are not on people we used to know, thats why its safer option to us to have an escrow to middle up some deals so we can make sure that we are on safe dealings and also just make sure that the people you used as escrow is very honest guy so he wouldn't run the money for that deal.

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December 13, 2016, 01:36:18 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service..
how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Always remember never talk to stranger, unless you know the person itself. Or you can talk to other's
but never give trust 100% at once to the person.

I guess talking to strangers makes you money  Smiley, especially here in the forum, we do not know each other
yet we took advantage on talking and cheating conversation to strangers to make money, yet to know who is the scammer?
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December 13, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Ironic that is lol after checking your scammy feedback.
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If you don't have any interest towards their offer just don't send any message to them, if you have any interest towards their offer ask them you need an escrow so you both can share the information.


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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
The only way to avoid scammers is do not trust the new users especially with the red trust like you. Scammer is always a scammer they do everything just to fool you or earn from you

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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
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December 16, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Dont reply him if you want not to scam anyone here in forum dont transact to them to avoid scam. Or if you want to buy anything to the member here pls use escrow to the person that you can trust.
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December 16, 2016, 02:38:14 PM
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Just don't listen to them whatever they are promising to you because most likely they are just people who are after the referral fee they can get and not if the program can be good or just another failure.
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December 16, 2016, 02:52:47 PM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

I dont think this only solution will solve the problem, it is much better to use the Escrow service from the reputed users who is well known by the forum. Let the transaction be which ever value or size but to be safe use escrow if the person whom you are going to deal is a real will accept it if not the scammer will not reply you. Like this you will be saved from scammer
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December 16, 2016, 06:10:54 PM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

I dont think this only solution will solve the problem, it is much better to use the Escrow service from the reputed users who is well known by the forum. Let the transaction be which ever value or size but to be safe use escrow if the person whom you are going to deal is a real will accept it if not the scammer will not reply you. Like this you will be saved from scammer

I agree escrow is always a proven method to make both party deliver, or fund being return if the transaction is a failure.  If you are a newbie i may suggest that you will be the one offering an escrowed transaction so that suspicion will be nullified and for a smooth transaction.
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December 16, 2016, 10:47:19 PM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

What the hell? How many people use bitcoins with people they know? No one I know uses bitcoins unless I gave them some and explained it to them haha. Everyone else is just online. Also, bitcoins are magic internet money (lol) so how many people can you really know over the internet!?
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December 17, 2016, 12:17:14 AM
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The way to avoid scammers is:

*drum roll*

Use your damn common sense!

If something is too good to be true, then it probably is. If you see someone offering crazy high returns and you don't even know who they are, what their name is, and they have no reputation, then it is likely they are scamming!
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December 17, 2016, 02:07:42 AM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
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. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.
Fail Logic.
If you wanna not dealing with the person, you didn't know him before, and I guess you can try to stop your trade and it was better than continuing your trading, dude.
A lot of the scammer proof was available. And your can identification the characteristic of the scammer.

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December 17, 2016, 03:00:35 AM
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It's a safe bet to just ignore any offers by PM.  I can't say I've had many, but people just try their luck on this forum, fishing for idiots--and there are plenty.  Don't trade with anyone on here unless they're trusted, and ALWAYS use escrow for deals and collateral for loans.  If you do that without exception, you should be fine.  Don't trust anyone, that's also a sure bet.

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December 17, 2016, 04:37:38 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Be very vigilant when trusting people especially online, if they are asking money to invest which for you is not fair nor too little or too high then think 100x. It is okay to trade or invest but very careful to people whom you put your trust on. One of the best way is to use escrow.

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December 17, 2016, 03:24:58 PM
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If you have not put up a offer for a certain trade that the member is sending you message about I would be careful. There may be a possibility that the user is trying to scam you. First check if the member is trusted or not and then if you decide to proceed with the trade use a escrow this way you will minimize the possibility of being scammed.   
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December 17, 2016, 03:43:33 PM
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The way to avoid scammers is:

*drum roll*

Use your damn common sense!

If something is too good to be true, then it probably is. If you see someone offering crazy high returns and you don't even know who they are, what their name is, and they have no reputation, then it is likely they are scamming!

You're right about that.  Using our common sense wisely, We can easily know when someone is untrusted and only out to scam us. Although some scammers that may give you the benefit of doubt tho. I meant scammers who might close a deals twice but plan to rip you off in third deal

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December 17, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
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The way to avoid scammers is:

*drum roll*

Use your damn common sense!

If something is too good to be true, then it probably is. If you see someone offering crazy high returns and you don't even know who they are, what their name is, and they have no reputation, then it is likely they are scamming!

I wouldn't depend solely on common sense because scammers are already experienced and they know how to manipulate people now. It's not always about the offer, it's easy to make a realistic offer but still scam someone. For example, you're having a deal with someone and the guy says that you have to send first because he just got scammed by someone. You'll pity him and so you sent first, the guy will just run away. This is one of the most basic ways scammer manipulate you, there are other ways to do so and they always end up having a good and smart way to scam you.

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December 17, 2016, 07:06:48 PM
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That's the problem of all this internet. You never know who is scammer and who is not. But in fact there are many scammers here. When I was newbie I also got some invitations to trade in some casinos, but I didn't reply. And now when I'm higher rank I don't get any kind of messages.
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December 19, 2016, 05:20:31 AM
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If you don't have any interest towards their offer just don't send any message to them, if you have any interest towards their offer ask them you need an escrow so you both can share the information.

very well said Grin why do you need to know if a certain person is going to commit a scam if you are not interested with what they offering you . and that's right if you are dealing with trading some goods or stuffs much better to ask for a trusted escrow so you won't be worried with the transactions, it's not bad to be in suspicious mind especially when you are dealing with people online .
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December 19, 2016, 07:55:59 AM
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That's the problem of all this internet. You never know who is scammer and who is not. But in fact there are many scammers here. When I was newbie I also got some invitations to trade in some casinos, but I didn't reply. And now when I'm higher rank I don't get any kind of messages.

I agree...but I know 16 members here who know and who are sure I am a scammer...inside conviction is stronger than truth (lol)

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December 19, 2016, 08:49:52 AM
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That's the problem of all this internet. You never know who is scammer and who is not. But in fact there are many scammers here. When I was newbie I also got some invitations to trade in some casinos, but I didn't reply. And now when I'm higher rank I don't get any kind of messages.

I agree...but I know 16 members here who know and who are sure I am a scammer...inside conviction is stronger than truth (lol)

Hey winspiral, gotta agree with you that at least there are always exceptions to the norm. Your site, for example, has been called a scam but I understand it and see it for what it is... an experiment with only time to lose if it doesn't work out.

I feel sorry sometimes for genuine people shot down for an inability to communicate well. Language is an issue and sometimes we mistakenly trust those with a good command of language...

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December 19, 2016, 11:14:37 AM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

Agree, and we should always be vigilant in every dealings we make. Do not send your bitcoin first, do some fact checking,background review on their ANN page if dealing with other coins,and also review trusts of the said user. Also, be aware when dealing with newbies.

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December 19, 2016, 11:44:19 AM
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Since OP has been labelled one and its possible its an alt account since he has not been online for days and in two days of him being active, quite a number of questions has been asked by him. I guessed his likes are those to be avoided. And ways to avoid one is simple never be too greedy to get something of higher value at a ridiculous lower amount. More often than not, its always scam again when you are in doubt simple ask and use escrow with those two fundamentals then you are good to go.
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December 19, 2016, 12:20:33 PM
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That's the problem of all this internet. You never know who is scammer and who is not. But in fact there are many scammers here. When I was newbie I also got some invitations to trade in some casinos, but I didn't reply. And now when I'm higher rank I don't get any kind of messages.

I agree...but I know 16 members here who know and who are sure I am a scammer...inside conviction is stronger than truth (lol)

Hey winspiral, gotta agree with you that at least there are always exceptions to the norm. Your site, for example, has been called a scam but I understand it and see it for what it is... an experiment with only time to lose if it doesn't work out.

I feel sorry sometimes for genuine people shot down for an inability to communicate well. Language is an issue and sometimes we mistakenly trust those with a good command of language...

Hey buwaytress,
Thanks,
At least you try my site and so you can make yourself your own opinion.
You can say a day...that it is not worth or not enough worth,but be sure you can in honesty never say that it is scam.
My system is for people who like faucets (it is not a lie to say that nowadays it is one for the best rewarding faucet) and people who like trading.

If people do not like at least one of both...better stay away and if design and ads do not please...stay away as well.
I recall that members earning comes from sponsors ads mainly.

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December 19, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

Agree, and we should always be vigilant in every dealings we make. Do not send your bitcoin first, do some fact checking,background review on their ANN page if dealing with other coins,and also review trusts of the said user. Also, be aware when dealing with newbies.


Actually its very hard to tell if our dealmate are scammers or not but if the case that we want to be safe on the deals we want to get successfull and well not be compromised much better that we would used an high reputed escrow that can safeguard the deals, and it is the best option for us that i can see, and if you cant afford to have that well much better to deal will extreme precaution.


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The only solution for this is we should not deal with anyone
we didnt know. Scammers are everywhere, there looking
for people they can easily scam with. This way we can avoid
ahd were safe from scammers.

Agree, and we should always be vigilant in every dealings we make. Do not send your bitcoin first, do some fact checking,background review on their ANN page if dealing with other coins,and also review trusts of the said user. Also, be aware when dealing with newbies.

True better deal with those who have knowledge some newbie were into pushing of trading with them then after a while will do lots of excuse. Better do research on them and be friendly too. Accommodate them as a friend  for more transactions might happen . Some will recommend you if we were really trusted.

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December 20, 2016, 01:56:19 PM
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Actually its very hard to tell if our dealmate are scammers or not but if the case that we want to be safe on the deals we want to get successfull and well not be compromised much better that we would used an high reputed escrow that can safeguard the deals, and it is the best option for us that i can see, and if you cant afford to have that well much better to deal will extreme precaution.
I'm not trading with unknown people and I always prefer to trade only with my close friends circle. I am passionately building a big bitcoin community for this purposes. It simply eliminates the risk of getting scammed and saves time and also eliminates the need of having escrow. Yes, we do trade in persons.
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Actually its very hard to tell if our dealmate are scammers or not but if the case that we want to be safe on the deals we want to get successfull and well not be compromised much better that we would used an high reputed escrow that can safeguard the deals, and it is the best option for us that i can see, and if you cant afford to have that well much better to deal will extreme precaution.
I'm not trading with unknown people and I always prefer to trade only with my close friends circle. I am passionately building a big bitcoin community for this purposes. It simply eliminates the risk of getting scammed and saves time and also eliminates the need of having escrow. Yes, we do trade in persons.
There is no risk in trading with strangers, as long as you didn't fall on their words or promise. I never trust escrow since they can also scam you. When I do trading, I always do favor for me first ir meet ups so that they can not scam me. Also, it is better not to earn than to be scammed.
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Not to be rude but it's going to be tough for you if you don't have a tenuous grasp on english
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Actually its very hard to tell if our dealmate are scammers or not but if the case that we want to be safe on the deals we want to get successfull and well not be compromised much better that we would used an high reputed escrow that can safeguard the deals, and it is the best option for us that i can see, and if you cant afford to have that well much better to deal will extreme precaution.
I'm not trading with unknown people and I always prefer to trade only with my close friends circle. I am passionately building a big bitcoin community for this purposes. It simply eliminates the risk of getting scammed and saves time and also eliminates the need of having escrow. Yes, we do trade in persons.
There is no risk in trading with strangers, as long as you didn't fall on their words or promise. I never trust escrow since they can also scam you. When I do trading, I always do favor for me first ir meet ups so that they can not scam me. Also, it is better not to earn than to be scammed.

There are trusted escrows here, nothing to worry. These reputable escrows won't scam you for a transaction and destroy their reputation forever. It takes too much time to be build, they will accomplish with their word.
Without escrows here you can't do many things, you won't find anyone to trade with you without a trusted escrow.

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December 23, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
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Usually, dont do trading with newbies.

See Trust rating of that person. If it shows negative in red mark, just avoid that person.

Better have an escrow before trading. It is safe.
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There is no risk in trading with strangers, as long as you didn't fall on their words or promise. I never trust escrow since they can also scam you. When I do trading,

In any situation, There will be always risks involved in trading. The only difference between them is their level of riskiness. Having said that yes escrows can also scam you but It is less riskier dealing with trusted escrows than a starnger right? Since their past involvement is also a must review to based their trust rating. Even if there are so many scammers here there will be always some people that you can trust to. 

I always do favor for me first ir meet ups so that they can not scam me. Also, it is better not to earn than to be scammed.

Didn't really understand what you mean there. Did you mean trading irl = in real life?
Yes it is really better to not earn than to be scammed because you will just lose money and will gain nothing but taking risks and grasping new opportunity can give you more profits

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Usually, dont do trading with newbies.

See Trust rating of that person. If it shows negative in red mark, just avoid that person.

Better have an escrow before trading. It is safe.

I think we don't need to scare people with negative trust. When I have just join this site on April of 2016 I get negative trust from my campaign because of I stayed a comment in some section that they don't support and don't pay for.
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service..
how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Always remember never talk to stranger, unless you know the person itself. Or you can talk to other's
but never give trust 100% at once to the person.

I guess, PMing you is not bad yet suspected to be a scammer since they showed up themselves on
public on, better not entertain them or I guess make a thread in public then negotiate in public.
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Dont be easy to believe someone on the internet
and if you want to trade of people to people is the best to use an escrow.
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If you want to be safe from being scam then you should be a tough one to decline to the "too good to be true" offers of other people. Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words. If you are making a transaction for a not well known person then escrow is a must for you to be able to make sure or secure being legit of between you and the person that you are dealing with.
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If you want to be safe from being scam then you should be a tough one to decline to the "too good to be true" offers of other people. Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words. If you are making a transaction for a not well known person then escrow is a must for you to be able to make sure or secure being legit of between you and the person that you are dealing with.

You are right...
My system is "too good to be true"
I should offer less...or at least not talk about (lol)

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Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words.
I believe being conscious and smart are more than enough to secure our self from scammers. Because when we are deviating from our emotion control like falling into luring words due to greedy is the prime reason to get scammed. Yes, once we are getting greedy, we will definitely fail to analyse all the safety measurements.
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Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words.
I believe being conscious and smart are more than enough to secure our self from scammers. Because when we are deviating from our emotion control like falling into luring words due to greedy is the prime reason to get scammed. Yes, once we are getting greedy, we will definitely fail to analyse all the safety measurements.
Must be true. When we are following in some certain rules of resolutions like only if some definite conditions are satisfying then only we must start investing or sending payment then we surely will not get any chances to get scammed. I'm following some set of regulations as my resolution to stay secured.
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If you want to be safe from being scam then you should be a tough one to decline to the "too good to be true" offers of other people. Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words. If you are making a transaction for a not well known person then escrow is a must for you to be able to make sure or secure being legit of between you and the person that you are dealing with.

That's a good advice. Escrow is must for any transaction in crypto world. And avoid all "too good to be true", "get rich quick" schemes! They are designed to steal money from new people in the crypto world and always take time to read and study about the new developments relating to the crypto world.

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 Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry. Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.
I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.
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Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry. Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.
I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

I do not agree...
if many people red trust you...aree you a scammer?
No of course at least not because you are red trusted.

This is the bad side of red trust:
Honnest people are avoid and nice people are mislead...
Believe me i know about what I talk...(lol)

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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
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Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry. Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.
I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

I do not agree...
if many people red trust you...aree you a scammer?
No of course at least not because you are red trusted.

This is the bad side of red trust:
Honnest people are avoid and nice people are mislead...
Believe me i know about what I talk...(lol)
red trust means you have doubtable and sort of trust issues which could threaten someone who are going to make a trade or transaction with you, the tag on your account which is having red trust it self doesn't say that you're scammer but mentioning to be exteremely careful to trade against you, that's all

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January 09, 2017, 12:28:49 PM
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Do not ever try to do business with people who are not trusted and are not known in the trade industry. Try to dig their account history: trust, posting history and what the user has done.
I think you can manage the situation of transactions that can save you from becoming fraud.

I do not agree...
if many people red trust you...aree you a scammer?
No of course at least not because you are red trusted.

This is the bad side of red trust:
Honnest people are avoid and nice people are mislead...
Believe me i know about what I talk...(lol)
red trust means you have doubtable and sort of trust issues which could threaten someone who are going to make a trade or transaction with you, the tag on your account which is having red trust it self doesn't say that you're scammer but mentioning to be exteremely careful to trade against you, that's all

That's perhaps all but it is enough and even too much.
But red trust should not be hold as proof...
Now if I say snow is white...many many people here say:
Be careful...snow can not be white because winspiral is redtrusted or even a scammer.

Once you are redtrusted...the game is plaid for years...
And all started because a supposed ponzi in my signature...
Now it is 100 times prooved that it was not a ponzi...but the red trust stay...
After new arguments were argumented:horrible design and poor English etc...
The pain is done...redtrusts are and will stay for ever.

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January 10, 2017, 02:08:57 PM
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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
yes that are the good tips i think. if you really want to remain safe. you must deal with someone using escrow. you must also be careful while trading with newbie.
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January 10, 2017, 02:52:37 PM
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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
yes that are the good tips i think. if you really want to remain safe. you must deal with someone using escrow. you must also be careful while trading with newbie.

Were you less trustable whan you were a newbie?
I was during my long years (I'm 64) honnest...newbie or not newbie has not changed my life (lol)

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January 10, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
yes that are the good tips i think. if you really want to remain safe. you must deal with someone using escrow. you must also be careful while trading with newbie.

Were you less trustable whan you were a newbie?
I was during my long years (I'm 64) honnest...newbie or not newbie has not changed my life (lol)
Quiet amazed that a 64 years old still engage to bitcoin which means theres no boundaries Smiley (Peace) I would like to say the same thing too on which when we are just still a newbie on this forum it doesnt mean we are not trustable anymore since not all people or newbies are scammers they had just low rank but doesnt mean we cant trust them but well safety precautions should do to avoid problems.

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January 10, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
yes that are the good tips i think. if you really want to remain safe. you must deal with someone using escrow. you must also be careful while trading with newbie.

Were you less trustable whan you were a newbie?
I was during my long years (I'm 64) honnest...newbie or not newbie has not changed my life (lol)
Quiet amazed that a 64 years old still engage to bitcoin which means theres no boundaries Smiley (Peace) I would like to say the same thing too on which when we are just still a newbie on this forum it doesnt mean we are not trustable anymore since not all people or newbies are scammers they had just low rank but doesnt mean we cant trust them but well safety precautions should do to avoid problems.

I do not engage to bitcoin but to satoshi...it's not the same level (lol)

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January 27, 2017, 02:17:58 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Any of the member in this forum sites are free to talk to anyone. If someone here sending a message to you and making a transaction with you there's no problem with it, unless HE/SHE asking any bitcoin from you to send to hi/her BTC addy. Well you better think about it, unless you know the person so well why not. But if not, avoid that guys for your safe in the scammer.
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January 30, 2017, 05:39:43 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

Just don't talk too much on in the stranger in this forum which you do not know him/her personally, unless if that person is trusted one for you. The sign was I think if asking you to pay him via bitcoin with his/her address, just check first, investigate, ask the opinion of the veteran member here from Sr. member and up so that you know what to do.
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February 04, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...

We cannot determine actually who is the scammer in this community, its very hard also to give our trust to anyone here in this thread to. Sometimes the scammers are great pretender too, they are good in conversation, they can easily get the trust of others once they hit it, that's the sign for them that they have a victim. so be careful to whom you talking too, its up to you if you accept my thoughts or not, whether you take it or leave it, nothing to lose for me.
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February 04, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
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Don't trust anyone (especially new users).
Verify the trust level of that user. If you see a red mark there: stay away (that mean the user is a scammer).
If you want to make a deal with another member, use a escrow.
There are may members here in forum wich offer a escrow service (some of them for free).
yes i like this , you must be carefull , used escrow every transaction and never join ICO without escrow or used escrow but dev still have manage transaction like ascedamncy ipo

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February 05, 2017, 01:29:28 AM
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Yeah theres a lot scammer around this forum, just dont do any transaction without Escrow. If trade is real the person who offer some service will agree using Escrow, but if he dont want to use Escrow, then he is scammer. Ignore their PM, you can report that member if they spam your inbox.
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February 05, 2017, 05:17:34 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Even they're sending you a private message dont transact with them this is the best way to dont get scam.Even they're a trusted one they can scam you too.Just ignore them if you feel ts scam.And get some advices or confirmation from the others members.
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Even they're sending you a private message dont transact with them this is the best way to dont get scam.Even they're a trusted one they can scam you too.Just ignore them if you feel ts scam.And get some advices or confirmation from the others members.
True even those trusted one could possibly scam you anytime that's why we should not be deceived so easily and as Greenbits said we should always seek for advice or feedbacks because if community would said that its a legit one then you should not worry about.Be vigilant into your coins.

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February 05, 2017, 10:16:50 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Even they're sending you a private message dont transact with them this is the best way to dont get scam.Even they're a trusted one they can scam you too.Just ignore them if you feel ts scam.And get some advices or confirmation from the others members.
in this case if they're offering you things which are too good to be true then you must avoid and it's better to never make a contact to them even if they're pm-ing you first.
even if some of them may have real intention to offer what they have but risk is a risk and just don't take it if it's unnecessary.

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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
It is knida funny that you are asking how to protect yourself from scammers
You have red negative trust , you yourself should know how to prevent yourself from scammers.
You being a scammer should know the possible ways how to not get scammed.

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February 05, 2017, 10:34:56 AM
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Usually, dont do trading with newbies.

See Trust rating of that person. If it shows negative in red mark, just avoid that person.

Better have an escrow before trading. It is safe.

I think we don't need to scare people with negative trust. When I have just join this site on April of 2016 I get negative trust from my campaign because of I stayed a comment in some section that they don't support and don't pay for.
It is disheartening to know that, it require threading gently on this forum. I made a suggestion that for every negative tag there should be witness or should be seconded before being attached.Imagine a legendary being tagged for spamming. It destroy the long year of holding the account
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
There are many signs in anything that they say if it is true or not but that is only in your mind. You should need to try it to know if it is real so that you continue with it. You should also to be a wise person, choose wisely about you acts and thinthink in advance if vision is to be success or not.

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March 24, 2017, 01:52:06 PM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Too many the people are promoting their service are having a high chance for to be a fraud, someone is trusting will not for directly making any PM in your inbox. I guess this is just used by the people are having a low trust level, don't trust someone in this cases, without making any PM for you the trusted person are already having a lot of the people are know him in this place.
Yes personal messaging is the best way to be safe in scammer. You need to know who is the one you will make a transaction with because in trading there is no physical currency that you can see. In transaction some trader want to have the trade first before they pay, because somehow they also think the same way if you are a scammer or not. And if you have some past transaction in some people you can used them to know who is the person to trust on or not.
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March 29, 2017, 10:44:42 AM
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Never trust a newbie for trading as almost most scammers newbie account to cheat other people. Dont trade with any one without an escrow. It is always safe to use escrow.
yes that are the good tips i think. if you really want to remain safe. you must deal with someone using escrow. you must also be careful while trading with newbie.

Agreed. Because a lot of newbie are just alt of others scammers as well. So they will try everything to scam people out of their bitcoin without you knowing it. I felt sorry for those who are already a victim of scams here, specially a newbie being scammed by a newbie. Just used for better judgement in making transactions. On the other side, there are also members here who built their trust because its really hard to build one, so they protect their hard earn trust here in our forum. So making trade to them is safe.

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March 29, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
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By educating yourself on different kind of tactics used by many scammers and im very sure that you will became more vigilant and advance thinking guy if you really learn that. Just try to seek some good pointers on old threads here or maybe just go on investment threads so that you can see some perfect example on what you are finding on.

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March 29, 2017, 01:15:25 PM
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The first way that you do is not easy to believe what other people say. if you want to try, look at the person's history. if it has a reputation of trust then chances are it is true. everything you can do with a good track record.
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March 29, 2017, 01:58:58 PM
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The first way that you do is not easy to believe what other people say. if you want to try, look at the person's history. if it has a reputation of trust then chances are it is true. everything you can do with a good track record.
But past record alone will not help to prevent getting scammed. Because there are a lot of incidents that some trusted people turned scammers overnight. Engaging escrow and dealing in multiple times by dividing the total amount into small parts are few of practical way to safeguard ourselves from not getting scammed.

I always do prefer to go for currency exchange with only small amount even in the case of going through escrow. That amount is affordable to lose in worst case.
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March 30, 2017, 12:04:55 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Maximum,avoid trading with newbies as it may be an account just now opened by the scammer to cheat you.Always use escrow while trading and dont bother about the small amount of escrow fees,otherwise you will end up with loss of your own investment.Check whether they have red trust mark.If found,just avoid trading with them.
Yes that is right and that is the very common scheme of the scammers which is using newbie account for doing transactions here in our forum but it is better to just avoid newly created newbie account who wants to do big transactions because they are obviously scammers and they just want to victimize other people who are not aware of them.
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March 30, 2017, 12:12:57 AM
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Some members sending me pm about trading and other services and other bitcoin talk service.. how can i know this member asking me real or want to scam with me...
Don't click their link. Check the website they  sent tl you by reading some reviews, articles, and such forums in order to know if it is real or not.



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