[Pre Ann] Zcash Fork With No 20% Tax

[everettforth]

1. Code is at

https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic

Please:
1. Mine the testnet and submit bug reports

2. Add seed nodes for launch in a few days

3. Help build binaries for Windows / Mac

I don't get 20% tax here, so I need your help!

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[bathrobehero]

As much as I disagree with the 20% "tax" I don't think forks without it offer anything at all. Especially long term.

I strongly belive we should just fork the existing Zcash with a much lower dev fee. Maybe 0.5% instead of 20%.

Personally, I wouldn't even mind a longer than a 4 years of dev fee period as long as it's actually reasonable and most importantly it doesn't get in the way of proper distribution and decentralization.

[everettforth]

Zclassic has a genesis block and single node testnet up:

./src/zcashd -connect=54.191.72.102

https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic

[Godson_Mansa]

could be interesting with a proper governance structure and well used tax.
how are you do the trusted setup safely though ?

[everettforth]

It uses the same trusted parameters Zcash set up.

[reginalkri]

It is kind of scary that anyone's code could be copied so quick though. Perhaps waiting a few months would be better.

[EBK1000]

It uses the same trusted parameters Zcash set up.

I am interested in this, did you use the same sprout-proving.key (980MB) used by Zcash to verify keys etc. or did you generate your own? I am asking because this info seems to suggest it was created just for zcash

https://github.com/zcash/mpc

As there isn't full information on how this is generated, how did you do it?

[everettforth]

Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

[kahir]

pool ?

[everettforth]

There is no pool.  You'd have to make one.

I changed the ip for the server to 54.191.72.102

[everettforth]

pool ?

you don't need a pool to mine blocks on a cpu right now with the network having very little power.

[zerocom]

how to mine in windows?

[everettforth]

how to mine in windows?

You need to use a linux VM

[syahril]

1. I took out the 20% founder's reward for Zcash here:

https://github.com/heyrhett/zcash-minus-founders-reward

2. I have code ready to mine a new genesis block whenever we are ready.

3.  Right now, I need seed nodes to get the network started.


I have no interest in running this myself, or as a pump-and-dump scam where I try to mine a lot of coins early and pump it later.  This is only going to happen if people want it, and it's a community effort.


Please discuss more here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NotZcash/

where pum
now rate 0.7

[everettforth]

Pardon?

where pum
now rate 0.7

[EBK1000]

Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

You used the exact same file from https://s3.amazonaws.com/zcashfinalmpc/sprout-proving.key

Does that work to verify keys and everything once you changed the code? I thought it was generated from the unique source of Zcash so if you changed the source you would need to generate another one?

[everettforth]

Yes, Zclassic uses the same file.

No Zcash continues to change their code.  In fact, they are at 1.0.1 already due to a bugfix.

Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

You used the exact same file from https://s3.amazonaws.com/zcashfinalmpc/sprout-proving.key

Does that work to verify keys and everything once you changed the code? I thought it was generated from the unique source of Zcash so if you changed the source you would need to generate another one?

[szafa]

how to mine in windows?

You need to use a linux VM

Sory i am new with kind of stuff like Linux VM ,to complicated to me.

[hankrules]

is anybody able to connect?  i'm showing 2 connections, but no blocks have loaded.

./src/zcash-cli getpeerinfo
[
    {
        "id" : 6,
        "addr" : "54.191.72.102",
        "addrlocal" : "54.159.69.83:36785",
        "services" : "0000000000000001",
        "lastsend" : 1478334137,
        "lastrecv" : 1478334138,
        "bytessent" : 396,
        "bytesrecv" : 99117,
        "conntime" : 1478334017,
        "timeoffset" : 0,
        "pingtime" : 0.06613000,
        "version" : 170002,
        "subver" : "/MagicBean:1.0.1/",
        "inbound" : false,
        "startingheight" : 66,
        "banscore" : 50,
        "synced_headers" : -1,
        "synced_blocks" : -1,
        "inflight" : [
        ],
        "whitelisted" : false
    }
]

[everettforth]

Hmm, i'm connected:

this is my zcash.conf

gen=1
genproclimit=1
equihashsolver=tromp
server=1
listen=1

[everettforth]

I'd like to do the real launch as soon as possible  (within days).  Here are some things we need:

1. Binaries for all platforms
2. Seed nodes and DNS setup.


I'm not getting paid 20% for this so please help out if you can!

[Ai7xpressTV]

tell me sr , how to mine it?

[LordCoder]

Oh shit, now let's get started with forks. This will be funny.

[placebo]

We already have ZcashDarkcoin, no need for a third one.

[everettforth]

tell me sr , how to mine it?

I updated some install instructions in the readme.

Keep in mind, this is still Testnet.  Real launch soon.

[everettforth]

Anyone else mining blocks?

[placebo]

Anyone else mining blocks?

can you already mine it?

[everettforth]

You can mine it on the testnet.

We can launch main net as soon as miners think it's ready and have seed nodes.

[Pamadar]

You can mine it on the testnet.

We can launch main net as soon as miners think it's ready and have seed nodes.

just keep us updated its interesting to try mining this coin, good luck mate.

[EBK1000]

Yes, Zclassic uses the same file.

No Zcash continues to change their code.  In fact, they are at 1.0.1 already due to a bugfix.

Yes, you use the same trusted setup.

You used the exact same file from https://s3.amazonaws.com/zcashfinalmpc/sprout-proving.key

Does that work to verify keys and everything once you changed the code? I thought it was generated from the unique source of Zcash so if you changed the source you would need to generate another one?

Of course, I mean to mine the genesis block only, how can you confirm that the security is maintained in the clone?

[everettforth]

Zclassic has its own genesis block.

Of course, I mean to mine the genesis block only, how can you confirm that the security is maintained in the clone?

[DeCrypterManiac]

Pool ?

[CryptoMaik]

do you really think your fork has a future?

I recommend first to put together a team that will work on the project next months...
do not let a boat(project) sail without staff

[EBK1000]

Zclassic has its own genesis block.

Of course, I mean to mine the genesis block only, how can you confirm that the security is maintained in the clone?

You're missing my point again. The sprout file is unique to the Zcash genesis block. You will need to generate a new sprout file for your genesis block for the Zclassic clone, you can't use the same as they used for Zcash.

[chrisvl]

reserved

[zamatoshi]

Blogpost: Z-classic tesnet is up. Launch in a few days?

https://medium.com/@yobanjo/zclassic-launched-no-20-founders-fee-f5c6b508a2db#.bdytpzco2

Zclassic
This is a great initiative as it is the first major fork of Zcash. Ethereum Classic shows that forks do have a future. Especially when the “real project” is hijacked by hypers and greedy devs.

[str4wm4n]

[eternal_newbie]

Launching before enough people are aware if this project, is counterproductive. It's effectively a pre-mine.

Set a hashing target. Say, 30% of Zcash today.

Ask miners to pledge the amount of hashing power they are willing to give to the project when it launches. Once enough pledges have come in to meet the target, set a 24 hour countdown.

If the mining target is met over the following days, then the launch was a success.

Wouldn't an alternative be to lower the blockreward for the first few days or a week?

[placebo]

Another scam.

[cryptoroach]

Scam or not, whatever.

Now i need to know one thing: It is already started? or is still just a testnet?

[fr4nkthetank]

would be good to have a pool to start with

[chrisvl]

would be good to have a pool to start with

https://www2.coinmine.pl/zcl/

[poolmn]

https://pool.mn/zclassic

0 withdrawal fee and only 0.99% mining fee

[chrisvl]

https://pool.mn/zclassic

0 withdrawal fee and only 0.99% mining fee

+1 tested,op must add the pools to annouchment

[fr4nkthetank]

nice coinmine has a pool, thats good.

[bathrobehero]

Not sure why this coin got picked up by pools and even c-cex.

Amateur copy paste fork with no extra info or plans or anything.

Even the ramp up period got cut down from 20.000 blocks to 10 so distribution is, and will be even worse as ZEC with the 20% tax.

[cryptodv]

Too complicated for me, I'll let you guys mine it and I'll scoop it up later at 100 Sats 

[lincolnsun]

Too complicated for me, I'll let you guys mine it and I'll scoop it up later at 100 Sats 

tried to mine and failed. waiting too

[billybobmaryjoe]

any updates or is this dead?

[k0er]

any updates or is this dead?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1671982.0