Are you going to vote?

[CryptoDatabase]

Now that the voting is through I want to further reinforce my original post with the fact that now for the 5th time in history the person Americans didn't vote for is now president.

Clinton had the vote of the US Citizens, but trump is now the president.

I hope you guys don't feel like your vote mattered, as I clearly said it doesn't.

[Berns]

Now that the voting is through I want to further reinforce my original post with the fact that now for the 5th time in history the person Americans didn't vote for is now president.

Clinton had the vote of the US Citizens, but trump is now the president.

I hope you guys don't feel like your vote mattered, as I clearly said it doesn't.

I completely agree. The result was a situation at which the voice of the people have not been heard. I do not think it's fair. People like to be deceived stayed

[CryptoDatabase]

Now that the voting is through I want to further reinforce my original post with the fact that now for the 5th time in history the person Americans didn't vote for is now president.

Clinton had the vote of the US Citizens, but trump is now the president.

I hope you guys don't feel like your vote mattered, as I clearly said it doesn't.

I completely agree. The result was a situation at which the voice of the people have not been heard. I do not think it's fair. People like to be deceived stayed

It is happening more frequently, 2 of the last 3 presidents weren't voted for by the people.

[Xester]

Yes. But not for the fact that I believe that my voice is important, but just want to walk

I agree! Even your just a simple countrymen, your voice is important, your vote is important, we do not really know if whom is great, whom can we trust when it comes to presidential candidate or whatever position is that. but still as a people of the sovereign country we must still care of what is happening in our country. remember even 1 vote can still change anything

[CryptoDatabase]

Yes. But not for the fact that I believe that my voice is important, but just want to walk

I agree! Even your just a simple countrymen, your voice is important, your vote is important, we do not really know if whom is great, whom can we trust when it comes to presidential candidate or whatever position is that. but still as a people of the sovereign country we must still care of what is happening in our country. remember even 1 vote can still change anything

This may have been the case long ago but not anymore. 2 of the last 3 presidents and 3 of the last 5 presidents were not chosen by the people. This may not seem that big of a deal but you have to remember this time period spans decades.

This is a very bad trend as it shows the government progressing to the point of dictatorship under the guise of democracy where they decide what is best for us and not the other way around.

The very definition of Republic is power held by the people and those they elect. The US is no longer a republic if you look at the stats.

[Sithara007]

It is happening more frequently, 2 of the last 3 presidents weren't voted for by the people.

Trump won the electoral vote, and that is why he is the president right now. Americans are following the electoral college system for the past hundreds of years. No one complained about it until Trump got elected, and IMO it is one of the best systems in the world.

[CryptoDatabase]

It is happening more frequently, 2 of the last 3 presidents weren't voted for by the people.

Trump won the electoral vote, and that is why he is the president right now. Americans are following the electoral college system for the past hundreds of years. No one complained about it until Trump got elected, and IMO it is one of the best systems in the world.

That is where you are wrong. It is constantly complained about including by your hero Trump when Obama was re-elected and during his entire campaign running for president saying it was rigged.

People on this forum need to actually research stuff before they try and post about it.

[groll]

Yes. But not for the fact that I believe that my voice is important, but just want to walk

I agree! Even your just a simple countrymen, your voice is important, your vote is important, we do not really know if whom is great, whom can we trust when it comes to presidential candidate or whatever position is that. but still as a people of the sovereign country we must still care of what is happening in our country. remember even 1 vote can still change anything

This may have been the case long ago but not anymore. 2 of the last 3 presidents and 3 of the last 5 presidents were not chosen by the people. This may not seem that big of a deal but you have to remember this time period spans decades.

This is a very bad trend as it shows the government progressing to the point of dictatorship under the guise of democracy where they decide what is best for us and not the other way around.

The very definition of Republic is power held by the people and those they elect. The US is no longer a republic if you look at the stats.

That's why we need to vote. Our vote is very important. Our voice need to to heard even on that special day for our country. We should vote every election, we are representinv the changes of our country and we have no reason not to participate. my country is a democratic country, we are all free to express our opinion and our feelings, and we are also free to choose if who is deserving in the position.

[PanZerrr]

I do not understand how it happened that the majority voted in favor of one candidate, and won quite different. After that I did not want to take the initiative and civic engagement. Everywhere deception

[sergeyzol]

I think after this election in America has created an urgent need to change the existing electoral system. Given the conservatism of the us Senate think this decision will not be accepted.

[BADecker]

More importantly, are you going to get the BAR Association out of the courts?

The BAR is a private organization that has overrun the courts. Because of this, you can't get a fair trial easily, since BAR judges will thwart anything that looks like it might get the BAR removed from the court system.

[Sithara007]

I think after this election in America has created an urgent need to change the existing electoral system. Given the conservatism of the us Senate think this decision will not be accepted.

You want to change the electoral system just because your candidate lost? No. That is not going to happen. The electoral college system was invented, in order to assure that the smaller states such as Wyoming and Vermont are not ignored by the political parties. If only the popular vote matters, then the campaign will be limited to a few populous states, such as California, New York, Illinois, Texas and Florida.

[CryptoDatabase]

I think after this election in America has created an urgent need to change the existing electoral system. Given the conservatism of the us Senate think this decision will not be accepted.

You want to change the electoral system just because your candidate lost? No. That is not going to happen. The electoral college system was invented, in order to assure that the smaller states such as Wyoming and Vermont are not ignored by the political parties. If only the popular vote matters, then the campaign will be limited to a few populous states, such as California, New York, Illinois, Texas and Florida.

What does one state having more population than another have to do with the majority of Americans, not just one state, voting for one thing and then getting slapped in the face by our overseers?

Even inadvertently you make my point. Your vote is worthless so why do they put up this charade to make us think it does?

Oh, and the states with more population has more votes in the electoral college than smaller states so your point is invalid.

[sergeyzol]

I think after this election in America has created an urgent need to change the existing electoral system. Given the conservatism of the us Senate think this decision will not be accepted.

You want to change the electoral system just because your candidate lost? No. That is not going to happen. The electoral college system was invented, in order to assure that the smaller states such as Wyoming and Vermont are not ignored by the political parties. If only the popular vote matters, then the campaign will be limited to a few populous states, such as California, New York, Illinois, Texas and Florida.

A what now? Anyone interested in the fate of small States? The capital of the American automobile industry Detroit will soon cease to exist. While not a large difference in the number of votes all votes matter.

[Aikonio]

Now to be recounted. So Hillary Clinton still have a chance? I think that this procedure will not be in vain. Perhaps there is some reason to do it.

[Sithara007]

Now to be recounted. So Hillary Clinton still have a chance? I think that this procedure will not be in vain. Perhaps there is some reason to do it.

If the margin was 100 or 200, then she had a chance. But the margin in Michigan is around 10,000 votes (in the other two states, it is even bigger). So there is no chance for an upset. Human error seldom causes a difference of more than 100 votes in a recount.

[BADecker]

Anybody got a time machine? So I can go back and change my vote?