I think I am going to withdraw my Bitcoin Kickstarter

[mindtomatter]

Couple of things:
1) Why are you trying to get support in US dollars instead of bitcoins?  Seems like if you're asking the community to support you, it makes sense to ask them for the assets they have rather than to cash out US dollars in order to pay higher fees to support you
2) What are you doing to promote your campaign outside of the community?   If you've chosen Kickstarter over the other options, it's because you want to appeal to a more mainstream crowd, so what have you done?
3) Your campaign page is not really up to standards - You *NEED* a video, it's not negotiable.  Most people who fund projects on kickstarter watch the video first, and only if the pitch and passion gets their attention do they read the content.  You have no pitch, just a picture of numbers - not very compelling to someone who does not have the context to understand it

4) Your reward tiers are really out of whack, you're not offering anything besides a thank-you even at 100 dollars, and then you jump straight to 1000 for adding a new metric, which although a fine goal, leaves a major gap in your incentive structure where you're not really getting anything until you spend 1000, and then you're getting something major that you might not care about.

There's more, but you get the idea - If you'd like help re-thinking your kickstarter, it's a passion topic for me (helping people make campaigns that could actually work) so feel free to hit me up at adam@mindtomatter.org

Best of luck any way it goes, your project is not exciting but it is important.

[DigitalDoom]

how about a kickstarter to kickstart a bitcoin kickstarter

Hey...great idea!!

I wonder if Kickstarter will accept that as a project 

[mindtomatter]

how about a kickstarter to kickstart a bitcoin kickstarter

Hey...great idea!!

I wonder if Kickstarter will accept that as a project 

Bitcoinstarter.com is actually a thing lol

[mgio]

I think this is a really interesting idea and I actually started writing a bitcoin app for iOS until I got too busy. Basically I was porting the reference bitcoin app to Objective-C.

Here are my thoughts:

- I've downloaded pretty much ever bitcoin app on the iphone. They all do pretty much the same thing. They are mostly bitcoin tickers, some of which will should other kinds of useful charts. Not really very useful.

- What would really be interesting would be a bitcoin wallet. A way to store bitcoins on your phone and send and receive them and keep a simple address book. You'd have to implement a bit of the bitcoin protocol and keep a minimal part of the block chain on the phone. Perhaps just the blocks that are relevant to the coins you are sending or receiving. Eventually add in a QR code writer and reader so you can share your bitcoin address with other people easily.

The big problem with this is there is a good chance that Apple will not allow it. Read about the problems that Blockchain had with their "wallet" app. I think they were approved, then declined, then approved a small subset of their original app. Apple might be more open to bitcoin apps now.

I'm not sure it's really worth investing any money or time in a bitcoin app for iphone until apple shows that they are willing to allow the interesting ones.

[farlack]

I think this is a really interesting idea and I actually started writing a bitcoin app for iOS until I got too busy. Basically I was porting the reference bitcoin app to Objective-C.

Here are my thoughts:

- I've downloaded pretty much ever bitcoin app on the iphone. They all do pretty much the same thing. They are mostly bitcoin tickers, some of which will should other kinds of useful charts. Not really very useful.

- What would really be interesting would be a bitcoin wallet. A way to store bitcoins on your phone and send and receive them and keep a simple address book. You'd have to implement a bit of the bitcoin protocol and keep a minimal part of the block chain on the phone. Perhaps just the blocks that are relevant to the coins you are sending or receiving. Eventually add in a QR code writer and reader so you can share your bitcoin address with other people easily.

The big problem with this is there is a good chance that Apple will not allow it. Read about the problems that Blockchain had with their "wallet" app. I think they were approved, then declined, then approved a small subset of their original app. Apple might be more open to bitcoin apps now.

I'm not sure it's really worth investing any money or time in a bitcoin app for iphone until apple shows that they are willing to allow the interesting ones.

Blockchain app works just fine, I accept payments with it regularly.

[Mosper]

I have sent founder a PM asking for information so I can give him an account. Based on the math done earlier I would have no problem hosting this thing indefinitely and probably completely free. I have hosting just sitting around doing nothing.

[mindtomatter]

I have sent founder a PM asking for information so I can give him an account. Based on the math done earlier I would have no problem hosting this thing indefinitely and probably completely free. I have hosting just sitting around doing nothing.

Good on ya

[glitch003]

Well, not to be a dick, but I literally just created this app and submitted it to the app store.  I'm waiting on approval right now.  It took me all of 4 hours.  If people actually use it, I'll add features like historical graphs.  Here's a screenshot:




What did you want the ~$5,500 for again?  Maybe the person who donated $100 to your kickstarter can send the money to me.  I do usually get paid $25 an hour so 4 hours work would be exactly $100.  Donation address: 12K4k51XmDJCw1797tRm2uQPc6ZpJmyZz5

[mindtomatter]

Well, not to be a dick, but I literally just created this app and submitted it to the app store.  I'm waiting on approval right now.  It took me all of 4 hours.  If people actually use it, I'll add features like historical graphs.  Here's a screenshot:




What did you want the ~$5,500 for again?

I'm almost *positive* that's being a dick

But I like your hustle, may the best man win.

[glitch003]

I'm almost *positive* that's being a dick

But I like your hustle, may the best man win.

Yeah I'm not gonna lie, whenever I say "I'm not trying to be a dick" I'm definitely about to be a dick. Haha

[DeathAndTaxes]

You should start a new thread about your app ...
also the ability to switch between fiat & BTC prices for PM would be interesting.
i.e. Gold (oz) 11.2112 BTC

maybe an option to show it is mBTC instead:
Gold (oz) 11,2112 mBTC

Also I would love to see an app which shows the reverse mBTC price.
$1 = 7.353 mBTC

[Matthew N. Wright]

Also I would love to see an app which shows the reverse mBTC price.
$1 = 7.353 mBTC

I think http://preev.com does that. Just enter the price in either box. (Unless you meant actually labeling it as "mBTC", which I don't think it does.)

[glitch003]

You should start a new thread about your app ...
also the ability to switch between fiat & BTC prices for PM would be interesting.
i.e. Gold (oz) 11.2112 BTC

maybe an option to show it is mBTC instead:
Gold (oz) 11,2112 mBTC

Also I would love to see an app which shows the reverse mBTC price.
$1 = 7.353 mBTC

Ohh I like those features, I'll add that now.  I'm gonna wait to create a new thread until the app is approved by Apple, that way people can immediately download it when they hear about it.

Also anyone who has an iOS device and wants to beta test, please PM me or email me at glitch0@gmail.com and we can get the app onto your device.  Thanks!

Edit: I added the feature to view everything in BTC and resubmitted to Apple.  It usually takes them about a week to approve apps, so if you want the app now, contact me for a beta version.

[mindtomatter]

I'm almost *positive* that's being a dick

But I like your hustle, may the best man win.

Yeah I'm not gonna lie, whenever I say "I'm not trying to be a dick" I'm definitely about to be a dick. Haha

Looking for projects?  I'm always looking for collaborators

[moni3z]

I also don't understand why a simple app to display pricing would cost $5k. Watch these videos in your spare time and slap one together, or just bookmark the normal bitcoin market data sites and check them on your phone whenever you want.

I'd donate to a phone that doubles as a tazer though (: or a hardware wallet I can hook up to a network that won't get stolen

[mindtomatter]

I also don't understand why a simple app to display pricing would cost $5k. Watch these videos in your spare time and slap one together, or just bookmark the normal bitcoin market data sites and check them on your phone whenever you want.

I'd donate to a phone that doubles as a tazer though (: or a hardware wallet I can hook up to a network that won't get stolen

Thats kinda the thing about crowdfunding - the idea has to be compelling to the people you're talking to.  Seems like the OP made an app he thought would be useful for apple product users (which does not generally describe bitcoin early adopters), but then only marketed his project to the hardcore community like the forums explaining that they "should" back him because it would make it easier for other projects to come after.

Not selling the project on its merits, but its status as "first", that was the fatal flaw.   Then he didn't get the response he expected so got discouraged and started visibly moping because people weren't giving him money. 

If you want to build something real, you need to start with a concept that will sell and then throw EVERYTHING YOU ARE into it, you need to become the project, it's chief evangelist and head spokesman.  Talk to everybody about it, explain to them why it's valuable to their life and how come they can't live without it.

Then they give you their money. 

Seriously, if anyone here is thinking about going to kickstarter or another crowdfunding platform and would like a marketers perspective PLEASE contact me, I am very tired of seeing projects blow up because the creators made poor assumptions based on their own perspective instead of their would-be customers.  adam@mindtomatter.org

[bbit]

how about a kickstarter to kickstart a bitcoin kickstarter

Hey...great idea!!

I wonder if Kickstarter will accept that as a project  

Bitcoinstarter.com is actually a thing lol

^^this^^

Going to be interesting to see how this plays out .... for exampe:
Goal to reach $100,000 .

Regular fiat at Indiegogo ?
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bailout 2
2 backers - $150 so far.

or

Bitcoins at BitcoinStarter ?
https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/24
2 backers - $223 so far.

Who is going to win first?

[mindtomatter]

how about a kickstarter to kickstart a bitcoin kickstarter

Hey...great idea!!

I wonder if Kickstarter will accept that as a project 

Bitcoinstarter.com is actually a thing lol

^^this^^

Going to be interesting to see how this plays out .... for exampe:
Goal to reach $100,000 .

Regular fiat at Indiegogo ?
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bailout 2
2 backers - $150 so far.

or

Bitcoins at BitcoinStarter ?
https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/24
2 backers - $223 so far.

Who is going to win first?

To be honest, I have real issues with preordering *any* product with money denominated in bitcoin.  I'm one of a whole lot of people who were more than a little screwed out of huge gains by BFL accepting pre-orders, saying they'd deliver in 3 months, and still not having delivered.  If I hadn't pre-ordered a jalepeno in August for 24btc, I could now purchase two or three of their 60GH/s units with the same amount of coins.  When I tried to get my coins back after they were more than three months past their shipping deadline, they gave me about half back - current market rate. 

Lucky I did though, because since they still haven't delivered now 4 months later the 11 coins I got back from them for my Jalepeno could buy me 1 of their 60ghz units again.

Moral of the story (for me at least) :  NEVER PREORDER ANYTHING WITH BITCOIN.  Buying this is fine.  Pre-ordering is f'ing retarded, especially when you don't actually know how long it'll take them to deliver.

[the founder]

I'm definitely about to be a dick.

I'm happy you did that!!!!

 as I noted earlier I am not sure how to code for iOS it's also strongly mentioned on the kickstarter page....   and honestly I don't think you're being a dick. Well since I am not getting funded most likely,   I'll send you the ~100 bucks for the app!

Just please make sure it's using the RSS feeds from ounce.me ,   the 4 hour skin you made is awesome.. but those feeds tweeked right took longer than they appear..   like the weighted average and stuff was more difficult than I was hoping for  (it takes the average volume every 24 hours and readjusts the weight from each exchange),  it's very helpful when mt.gox get's DDS'ed every two weeks.   It must include failovers if there is excessive lag for example.

Also,  if you can add that price ticker that would be awesome .This needs to be editable via a secure https control panel

The control panel needs to have autentication (username , password)  also has to have the ability to add and remove users.  

It would be also awesome if you can add the secondary ticker for the news as well.  This needs to be editable via a secure https control panel.  I need to be able to choose additional news sources as well remove news sources.   I don't want to be including a specific bitcoin blog for example and the owner stops updating it or decides to start blogging about his cat.

I'll also need a panel in the back end for reporting,  so I can track rough number of views so I can adjust infrastructure to match.  It would need to include both unique and pageviews and any relevant information so I can keep the infrastructure to match.

While you are at it,  it can't have a manual slide to refresh like that.  When I did that prior it was literally getting autorobot hit every second.   So instead of 70,000 page views.. it was getting 700,000 page views... all bots.   That's not helpful for anyone.   You'll need to build a auto refresh type system in there so that every minute or two it refreshes for them.   Otherwise you'll both charge the end users too much bandwidth they don't need.. and you'll overtax the system internally.

I will also need a way to add differing types of messages up there.   Like where it scrolls across the top for the ticker and the news,   I would like to be able to put an emergency message there if something is happening.  that way I can notify the people in the real time of whatever is needed.

I'll also need some sort of control panel in the back end so I can add and remove advertisements.  This needs to be the same via a secure control panel.

I will need a way to be able to remove and add metrics .  This needs to be the same via a secure control panel.

I can't say this enough the control panel needs to be secured,   my biggest fear is someone throwing up bogus pricing and causing problems.

I actually have about a 6 page spec sheet for this,   I can mail it to you if you want... where do you want the $100 dollars sent to finish that job as specified both above (and in the 6 page spec sheet).

I am so happy you did this,  for $100 dollars.    That's amazing.  Just tell me where to send it...  

If it's over scope of what you did or will do for the 100 bucks as you quoted as the price,  then in all seriousness I am extremely happy you did it,  just make sure to cite ounce.me for the feeds.