teslacoil404
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May 06, 2013, 01:01:03 AM |
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Looks nice! I'll give it a try.
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mem
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May 06, 2013, 02:09:56 AM
Last edit: May 09, 2013, 04:16:02 AM by mem |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
edit: Currently in direct contact with site admin regarding my concerns.
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 05:53:43 AM
Last edit: May 07, 2013, 04:31:58 PM by betafall |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
Regarding our game being provably fair anyone is free to refresh the page as many times as they'd like to check whether the client-side seed is being sourced from anywhere other than a locally seeded RNG. This is all independently verifiable, just like every other provably fair system. If SatoshiCircle were to be influencing the spins, we would have a very high risk of being caught by anyone doing a simple audit of the Javascript. We encourage anyone to audit our code. It's out there for anyone to see. |
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mem
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May 07, 2013, 06:10:44 AM |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
Regarding our game being probably fair anyone is free to refresh the page as many times as they'd like to check whether the client-side seed is being sourced from anywhere other than a locally seeded RNG. This is all independently verifiable, just like every other provably fair system. If SatoshiCircle were to be influencing the spins, we would have a very high risk of being caught by anyone doing a simple audit of the Javascript. We encourage anyone to audit our code. It's out there for anyone to see. Instead of requiring a high level of technical knowledge and auditing javascript why not the following which I have suggested several times to you before: I suggest providing a hash of the client side RNG and allowing users to provide their own seeds. Providing a hash of the client side RNG generator itself and a verification method is also recommended. |
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Zaih
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May 07, 2013, 10:40:17 AM |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
Regarding our game being probably fair anyone is free to refresh the page as many times as they'd like to check whether the client-side seed is being sourced from anywhere other than a locally seeded RNG. This is all independently verifiable, just like every other provably fair system. If SatoshiCircle were to be influencing the spins, we would have a very high risk of being caught by anyone doing a simple audit of the Javascript. We encourage anyone to audit our code. It's out there for anyone to see. Instead of requiring a high level of technical knowledge and auditing javascript why not the following which I have suggested several times to you before: I suggest providing a hash of the client side RNG and allowing users to provide their own seeds. Providing a hash of the client side RNG generator itself and a verification method is also recommended. Yeh something like what Bitzino does with client seeds. It'd also make me feel a lot safer as well tbh. |
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AngryCatfish
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May 07, 2013, 02:36:17 PM |
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I'll give this a spin if still going:
1FSJRQzuTjgfZWFzFZBpr5mwKhH7sUptv8
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 03:45:41 PM |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
Regarding our game being probably fair anyone is free to refresh the page as many times as they'd like to check whether the client-side seed is being sourced from anywhere other than a locally seeded RNG. This is all independently verifiable, just like every other provably fair system. If SatoshiCircle were to be influencing the spins, we would have a very high risk of being caught by anyone doing a simple audit of the Javascript. We encourage anyone to audit our code. It's out there for anyone to see. Instead of requiring a high level of technical knowledge and auditing javascript why not the following which I have suggested several times to you before: I suggest providing a hash of the client side RNG and allowing users to provide their own seeds. Providing a hash of the client side RNG generator itself and a verification method is also recommended. Mem, we will investigate the method you suggest. Is this how all provably fair games work or just Bitzino? |
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:25:46 PM |
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Can you make it so that setting a custom bet is do-able on an iPad? Thanks
Hi. We'll be working on better functionality for Ipad and Iphone's in the near future. |
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:27:00 PM |
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Thanks! I had fun!  Might put some more in sometime. You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. |
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:31:39 PM |
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All free accounts requesting funding have been funded. Happy spinning!
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:32:49 PM |
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Warning, Site operator refuses to back up their claims of "provably fair".
My outstanding concern is that the client side RNG is not easily verifiable for the end user and the user cannot set their own seed.
The site can easily insert a predictable client side RNG every N refreshes to take advantage of players.
Regarding our game being probably fair anyone is free to refresh the page as many times as they'd like to check whether the client-side seed is being sourced from anywhere other than a locally seeded RNG. This is all independently verifiable, just like every other provably fair system. If SatoshiCircle were to be influencing the spins, we would have a very high risk of being caught by anyone doing a simple audit of the Javascript. We encourage anyone to audit our code. It's out there for anyone to see. Instead of requiring a high level of technical knowledge and auditing javascript why not the following which I have suggested several times to you before: I suggest providing a hash of the client side RNG and allowing users to provide their own seeds. Providing a hash of the client side RNG generator itself and a verification method is also recommended. Yeh something like what Bitzino does with client seeds. It'd also make me feel a lot safer as well tbh. We're investigating the possibility of doing so. |
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 04:37:00 PM |
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I like the unlocking of other wheels and the awards feature and calculated bet options like 10% of stack
It would be nice to see other bet buttons:
X2 last best
1/2 last bet
1% of stack, increases that amount per click
Thanks for your input. At this time we've decided not to add any more wagering options. We'd like to keep the screen clean and simple especially for touch screens. The incremental, percentage, slider and custom input (by clicking on the wager box) seems to have most of our players satisfied. |
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bennett616
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http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/
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May 07, 2013, 05:00:27 PM |
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I like the unlocking of other wheels and the awards feature and calculated bet options like 10% of stack
It would be nice to see other bet buttons:
X2 last best
1/2 last bet
1% of stack, increases that amount per click
Thanks for your input. At this time we've decided not to add any more wagering options. We'd like to keep the screen clean and simple especially for touch screens. The incremental, percentage, slider and custom input (by clicking on the wager box) seems to have most of our players satisfied. Is the free chips you were offering over now? I posted a few days back and still havent seen or heard anything? Andy B |
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AngryCatfish
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May 07, 2013, 07:45:14 PM |
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All free accounts requesting funding have been funded. Happy spinning!
No dice, err... no spins here. |
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bennett616
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May 07, 2013, 07:58:33 PM |
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All free accounts requesting funding have been funded. Happy spinning!
None in mine either  Andy B |
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May 07, 2013, 09:39:50 PM |
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I'd like to spin it!  1M2Xa7ktaXuPXQP17uWvaehiudxPmcL3nb |
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betafall (OP)
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May 07, 2013, 09:52:52 PM |
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We were having an issue with our deposit script but everything should be fine now. Please check now that the free accounts have been funded.
Our apologies.
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bennett616
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http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/
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May 07, 2013, 09:57:10 PM |
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We were having an issue with our deposit script but everything should be fine now. Please check now that the free accounts have been funded.
Our apologies.
Confirmed Thank you! Andy B |
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betafall (OP)
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May 08, 2013, 12:11:04 AM |
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We were having an issue with our deposit script but everything should be fine now. Please check now that the free accounts have been funded.
Our apologies.
Confirmed Thank you! Andy B Cool, Thanks for letting us know. |
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bennett616
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May 08, 2013, 12:13:13 AM |
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We were having an issue with our deposit script but everything should be fine now. Please check now that the free accounts have been funded.
Our apologies.
Confirmed Thank you! Andy B Cool, Thanks for letting us know. Lost it really quick though Andy B |
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