TRUMP WINS

[Sithara007]

The fact is that he's been a successful businessman.  More importantly, he was the only candidate who said common sense things that a lot of people have been wanting to hear.  Such as the need to secure our borders and the need for a President who places America's interests before the interests of other countries.

In the rust belt states, dozens of factories are getting closed every day, making thousands of American citizens jobless. The factory owners are shifting their plants to Mexico and China. Trump was the only one who argued in favor of the laid-off workers. Hitlery was siding with the corporations.

[Blavatsky]

Viva Presidente Trump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJzMzW3kuY

[QuestionAuthority]

Viva Presidente Trump!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJzMzW3kuY

What horrible music. Not what they were saying because I don't speak Spanish, but the music itself. I haven't heard anything that bad since the 1980s. I got stoned at small Pantera concert in 1981 and projectile vomited on the band. Everyone there said it was the best part of the show. I'd rather have disco back than thrash metal. With shit thrash metal as the background score and spanish lyrics I seriously doubt they're reaching their intended audience.

[Pai Mei]

what will Obama do before Trump assumes?

[Sithara007]

what will Obama do before Trump assumes?

He will do what he has been doing for the past 8 years. He will woke up at 8 am, have his breakfast, then play golf and then he'll have his lunch. After that, he will watch some soap opera, before departing again to play golf.

[HITTI2]

I've been a staunch advocate of this for some time.  That is, a logical break-up of the country.  My basic rationale is that many of our problems stem from being a 'superpower' and feeling somehow like it makes us need to spend our energies bombing people in other parts of the world, but there are perfectly valid domestic socio-political problems which could also be addressed by breaking up as well.

Absolutely agreed. I think that the people of the US would be much better-off overall if the US was dissolved and all of the states became independent. A lot of people's first reaction to that is that US states aren't self-sufficient, but that's the case with many countries -- that's what trade is for. I think it'd work out fine.

A willing complete dissolution of the US is very unlikely to actually happen anytime soon, though. I think that the secession of a handful of states (California, maybe Texas, maybe some of the east coast after California secedes) is at least somewhat plausible, and some improvement.

I do hope that trump will bring the economic changes that the US deserves. I would have preferred a libertarian candidate though.

I was very disappointed in Gary Johnson this campaign. He was ineffective in working toward winning, many of his policies were non-libertarian, and he largely failed to spread libertarian ideas. I'm absolutely not a Trump fan, but Gary Johnson often looked like a Hillary shill.

This is especially disappointing because I think that Johnson did have quite a good campaign in 2012.

I like GJ, because he owned a marijuana business and I think is a co owner of it now. I like the idea he is with marijuana vs the opponents that are against legalizing federally.

[birareru1988]

Trump won the election? Hillary Clinton got 2 million more votes. I think that it proves the imperfection of the electoral legislation of America. I'm afraid that this situation can significantly increase the split in society.

[Spendulus]

Trump won the election? Hillary Clinton got ....

Yes, Trump won.

Any other questions?

Oh, one more thing.

You mentioned a "Hillary?"

Who is that?

[cherline]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

[Oppolee]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

No matter where the voices! I don't understand how you can win the popular vote and lose the election. This is only possible in America. Discussions are under way to recount the votes. Imagine if it turns out that elections are rigged?

[bryant.coleman]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

Those are the states where the maximum amount of voter fraud occurs. Even illegal aliens can vote in these states, and the Democrats have opposed a proposal to make government issued ID cards mandatory to take part in the voting process. The republicans can't do anything, as they don't have sufficient manpower to send observers to all the inner city polling booths.

[achow102]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

No matter where the voices! I don't understand how you can win the popular vote and lose the election. This is only possible in America. Discussions are under way to recount the votes. Imagine if it turns out that elections are rigged?

Election certainly rigged. And recount does not help establish the truth. The man put the post is not casual. It's beneficial to someone

[Tyrantt]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

No matter where the voices! I don't understand how you can win the popular vote and lose the election. This is only possible in America. Discussions are under way to recount the votes. Imagine if it turns out that elections are rigged?

Elections were rigged,Soros owned votiong machines in 17 states and  a few days after the elections they've said that Trump actually won the popular vote.

[Oppolee]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

Those are the states where the maximum amount of voter fraud occurs. Even illegal aliens can vote in these states, and the Democrats have opposed a proposal to make government issued ID cards mandatory to take part in the voting process. The republicans can't do anything, as they don't have sufficient manpower to send observers to all the inner city polling booths.

I don't believe that the Republicans could not provide observers all sites. But I'm interested in how many were correctly recounted. As for IDs, you should not forget about the majority of Republicans in the Senate.

[bryant.coleman]

I don't believe that the Republicans could not provide observers all sites. But I'm interested in how many were correctly recounted. As for IDs, you should not forget about the majority of Republicans in the Senate.

The Republicans had enough manpower. But they were prevented from sending their observers to most of the inner city polling booths. In most of the deep-blue polling booths, there were no Republican observers present during the election day. At least in some of these booths, the Democrats engaged in massive vote stuffing. A perfect example is here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/gop-call-for-statewide-pennsylvania-poll-watchers-is-denied.html

[tvbcof]

On the Stein re-count topic for a moment...

Stein played a somewhat interesting role in 2016.  I figure that any intelligent person who is gung-ho on the climate fraud is in it for social issues.  Sometimes they are 'for real' in that they think collectivism would produce a better world (for social and/or environmental reasons), and sometimes they see the bigger picture of a corporate world takeover.  No way to know where Stein falls on this spectrum, but she did basically endorse Trump near the end so she seems to have come to her senses and figured global thermo-nuclear war was not a good thing.

Stein is, of course, a tool in this re-count thing since (and I'm supposing here) that she doesn't have any actual money herself, but her signature is required on some papers at least so she must have her reasons.

For my part I do expect that there actually was massive vote fraud in PA, MI, and WI.  Massive fraud in favor of the Dems.  Anyone suspecting the same and not liking it for whatever reason might be inclined to instigate a 're-count'.  Risky, especially in light of the death threats against the electoral college participants and such, but further analysis of 2016 could add incentive to clean up the election system.  A shrewd commie or eco-freak could look forward a few cycles when the current cohort of indoctrinated mouth-breathers are 'all grown up', and more of us less damaged fossils have kicked the bucket.

Trump seems ambivalent about the re-count, and some of the Trump operatives seem to have emitted a yelp then shut their traps.  This indicates to me that they see some potential pros among the cons of a re-count.  As I tap this out, I'm not aware of much support from the Dem establishment.

Another possibility is that Stein would prefer to see an Obama third term.  She probably does see Obama as at worst at least the lesser of two evils given his strong efforts to destroy the state-side economy, appropriate property via environmental scams, hand over sovereignty to the U.N. via TPP and other international deals, etc.  Stein might be shooting for such an electoral college mess (or a psy-op centered around it) that results in Obama or someone he chooses continues his operations.

On the general topic, least we forget, Obama invited to OSCE to 'observe' our 2016 election process here in the U.S. at much higher counts than in the past.  Not much has been said about that since it was announced.  It will be interesting to see if they swoop in at some point between now and the inauguration.

[beafheart]

I don't remember such dirty elections of the President as this year in America. The result of these elections is also very contradictory. In many countries, such a result could lead to civil war. I think it is a signal for America to change.

[Spendulus]

I don't remember such dirty elections of the President as this year in America. The result of these elections is also very contradictory. In many countries, such a result could lead to civil war. I think it is a signal for America to change.

Don't read any signals, from the actions of the "protests" of paid political operatives, past the election.

[Chef Ramsay]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

No matter where the voices! I don't understand how you can win the popular vote and lose the election. This is only possible in America. Discussions are under way to recount the votes. Imagine if it turns out that elections are rigged?

The rigging is very real and it's the establishment figures that have access to voting fraud not outsiders like Trump. Only here in America do we have over 3 million illegal aliens voting and untold (allegedly ~ 4mil) numbers of people casting extra ballots of dead people that haven't been taken off the voter rolls.

Here's a litte info about this "recount funding'' that the Green party candidate is going for that only challenges 3 states (that Trump won - MI, WI, PA) out of all other states, that's how they hope to steal it. http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Election fraud expert Bev Harris (look her up) says that Hillary and co already swiped 5 states from Trump and that he won the popular vote when the illegals and dead voters aren't counted.

Alex Jones talks about this counter-coup the dems are attempting to pull in this short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tTt326_-k

[Alfa123]

these two million votes are from california and newyork,,,just the same state democrate always win

No matter where the voices! I don't understand how you can win the popular vote and lose the election. This is only possible in America. Discussions are under way to recount the votes. Imagine if it turns out that elections are rigged?

The rigging is very real and it's the establishment figures that have access to voting fraud not outsiders like Trump. Only here in America do we have over 3 million illegal aliens voting and untold (allegedly ~ 4mil) numbers of people casting extra ballots of dead people that haven't been taken off the voter rolls.

Here's a litte info about this "recount funding'' that the Green party candidate is going for that only challenges 3 states (that Trump won - MI, WI, PA) out of all other states, that's how they hope to steal it. http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Election fraud expert Bev Harris (look her up) says that Hillary and co already swiped 5 states from Trump and that he won the popular vote when the illegals and dead voters aren't counted.

Alex Jones talks about this counter-coup the dems are attempting to pull in this short video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tTt326_-k

What started a recount in Wisconsin. Let's see where it leads. I wonder whether the recalculations in all 3 States? I think that a recount in Wisconsin will show fraud Trump.