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November 20, 2016, 10:34:17 AM
Last edit: November 21, 2016, 10:47:44 AM by deisik
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He was such an huge mind gamer. Just with few bytes of codes he had changed the history of the world. Such an crazy invention he had done. I really salute him for his great mind. As his mind bitcoin also had gone huve popular and it's the father of all cryptocurrency

I wouldn't be so enthusiastic and bombastic

The long-term success of Bitcoin is still not set in stone. Bitcoin is used only by roughly half a million people on a regular basis, and have been likely used only by a few million people altogether. In this way, claiming that Satoshi has changed the history of the world is juvenile at worst and premature at best. Bitcoin may potentially deliver a strong financial impact of the world scale, but it is too early to tell anything conclusive or definitive yet

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November 20, 2016, 10:47:42 AM
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Satoshi definitely wont appear on the media. He has kept quiet for so long, now he wouldn't dare take the risk to appear publicly. Doing that would be a great life-threatening mistake. It has a great chance that it would cost him his life.
Even if he attempt to appear, I do not know if people will believe that his satoshi. I think what makes bitcoin successful is because it was developed by an anonymous person and that mysterious thing  has added it's value.

I am already contented with the current situation.

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November 20, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
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Satoshi definitely wont appear on the media. He has kept quiet for so long, now he wouldn't dare take the risk to appear publicly. Doing that would be a great life-threatening mistake. It has a great chance that it would cost him his life.
Even if he attempt to appear, I do not know if people will believe that his satoshi. I think what makes bitcoin successful is because it was developed by an anonymous person and that mysterious thing  has added it's value.

I am already contented with the current situation.

The Bitcoin wallet addresses written in the first blocks of the blockchain are known to belong to him, so if he decided to show up, he wouldn't have any difficulty of proving his identity. All he would need to do is to sign with one of the keys associated with his wallets some arbitrary message confirming that this very guy is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto. In this manner, whoever might claim to be him, without signing such a message should be considered as an impostor...

Whether he might really have an intention of showing up is a completely different matter, though

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November 20, 2016, 09:24:50 PM
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The price will definitely go down, once Satoshi's real identity gets revealed. < If he is still alive > You have to remember that he still owns loads of unused coins. < about 1 million > and if people see those coins moving, they will expect a dump and they will start selling even before those coins hit the markets.

Satoshi's identity will also create uncertainty and even anger, if he is linked to crime or dirty deeds. His nationality and association with specific agencies will also have a influence and people will quickly audit every aspect of his life. He will also become the target for lawsuits and even attempts on his life or even abduction by criminals for financial gain.

Let's just leave Satoshi alone, we are all Satoshi now. ^smile^

What if this guy is already in jail in some country? We never know...

About the million coins, he's the owner, he can trade if he wants but I doubt that he will do this... He never spent none of their coins?

About "we are all satoshi", we should make an "Satoshi mask"

That's true, bitcoin as a coin of creativity and innovation. Whether Satoshi is alive or dead or in jail, he had given life to lots and lots of common man. As mentioned one day every user needs to be masked as Satoshi to give respect but to make a mask none knows the real face.
I have likewise been wondering, why would someone who came up with something revolutionary and good enough for a noble prize award not be proud of it? But now I see it that Satoshi was ahead of time. Had he been short sighted, the authorities would have swooped on him and bitcoin would have been frustrated before now and we may never have had the opportunity to see the financial rot the authorities are happy to see us in.
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November 20, 2016, 09:52:18 PM
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Satoshi definitely wont appear on the media. He has kept quiet for so long, now he wouldn't dare take the risk to appear publicly. Doing that would be a great life-threatening mistake. It has a great chance that it would cost him his life.
Even if he attempt to appear, I do not know if people will believe that his satoshi. I think what makes bitcoin successful is because it was developed by an anonymous person and that mysterious thing  has added it's value.

I am already contented with the current situation.

The Bitcoin wallet addresses written in the first blocks of the blockchain are known to belong to him, so if he decided to show up, he wouldn't have any difficulty of proving his identity. All he would need to do is to sign with one of the keys associated with his wallets some arbitrary message confirming that this very guy is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto. In this manner, whoever might claim to be him, without signing such a message should be considered as an impostor...

Whether he might really have an intention of showing up is a completely different matter, though

I didn't knew that the first bitcoin wallet address belongs to him. That's going to make his identity proved if he shows up but I don't think that he will even show up as he is already happy to be mysteriously known by the people as Satoshi, the master creator of bitcoin. We didn't even know if that is his real name or not.
I think this is just his fake name or a group name like other said before maybe it is a group they are still hiding and never seen their face in the internet.. since we are new adopters i think satoshi or the group have no plan to show with us maybe if bitcoin is actually successful to be stablish locally they will appear and proving that they are owner..
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November 20, 2016, 10:08:27 PM
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He was such an huge mind gamer. Just with few bytes of codes he had changed the history of the world. Such an crazy invention he had done. I really salute him for his great mind. As his mind bitcoin also had gone huve popular and it's the father of all cryptocurrency

I wouldn't be so enthusiastic and bombastic

The long-term success of Bitcoin is still not set in stone. Bitcoin is used only by roughly half a million people on a regular basis, and have been likely used only by a few million people altogether. In this way, claiming that Satoshi has changed the history of the world is juvenile at worst and premature at best. Bitcoin may potentially deliver a strong financial impact of the world scale, but it is too early to tell anything conclusive or definitive yet

it doesn't matter what happens to bitcoin itself. that could die tomorrow and it wouldn't matter to almost everyone in the world.

it's the blockchain concept that really counts and that's what will change the world. it's already being played with and it's only just begun. the possibilities will mushroom.
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November 21, 2016, 10:53:27 AM
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He was such an huge mind gamer. Just with few bytes of codes he had changed the history of the world. Such an crazy invention he had done. I really salute him for his great mind. As his mind bitcoin also had gone huve popular and it's the father of all cryptocurrency

I wouldn't be so enthusiastic and bombastic

The long-term success of Bitcoin is still not set in stone. Bitcoin is used only by roughly half a million people on a regular basis, and have been likely used only by a few million people altogether. In this way, claiming that Satoshi has changed the history of the world is juvenile at worst and premature at best. Bitcoin may potentially deliver a strong financial impact of the world scale, but it is too early to tell anything conclusive or definitive yet

it doesn't matter what happens to bitcoin itself. that could die tomorrow and it wouldn't matter to almost everyone in the world.

it's the blockchain concept that really counts and that's what will change the world. it's already being played with and it's only just begun. the possibilities will mushroom.

Please stop repeating this highly inflated hype

Just a few days ago I asked about what use the blockchain technology could be to banks, and all I got as reply was empty self-contradicting verbiage. If you can explain to me through simple examples or conceptually without actually trying to obfuscate the matter, I will be happy to change my point of view on the real advantages of the blockchain concept beside using it in virtual currencies. But so far I don't see any such advantages. If you don't really know about any, better not try to play this card

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November 21, 2016, 06:16:50 PM
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Don't forget the possibility that Satoshi could be a group of people.

Yep, and they might wait until there is a closed economy where no dumping vs fiat is needed at all.

Hope there might be first real bootstrapping in  some unbanked Region?

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November 23, 2016, 04:37:18 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?
in my opinion satoshi is a very smart and genius person , i think he have a reason why he not showing his identity
but thankyou so much to satoshi because he created
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November 23, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?
in my opinion satoshi is a very smart and genius person , i think he have a reason why he not showing his identity
but thankyou so much to satoshi because he created

Ofcourse he was or he is a genius person as only a genius can make such a thing, and the reason why he does not appear can be the reason because he knows that not everyone loves what he had created so maybe there will be people targeting him if he appears or maybe worse than that. It is just an opinion by the way.
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November 23, 2016, 06:02:22 PM
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Do you know how many people are searching Nakamoto, if he shows off police will put him/her or a team into the jail, they would require something to kill bitcoin or force the bitcoins be burned or get into circulation, or worse going auction. I do hope he keep hiden, the last person that claimed Nakamoto identity just hasnt balls to proof or sign any message from the adress.

Why they will put he in the jail?

Maybe, out of sheer frustration and butthurt that Bitcoin is giving them? They wouldn't necessarily put him in jail, but they (I mean alphabet agencies, before all) could easily make his life unbearable, or, what would be even worse for Bitcoin, they might make him an offer that he couldn't possibly refuse and use him to discredit Bitcoin or do something to that tune. Provided Bitcoin itself is not their creation, in the first place...

By them I mean alphabet agencies such as CIA, NSA and their likes

Something like the Snowden?

Obama said he was thankful  for the things that Snowden do however he(government) can't forgive him lol and that's why the guy will never go back to USA.

Satoshi is doing well keeping in the shadow.

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November 23, 2016, 06:06:34 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?

I hope Satoshi will come back for giving you some coins so that you can pay yourself a good English course.
And why should Banksy show my face?
Pointless thread, I hope it gets closed
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November 24, 2016, 12:53:06 PM
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Do you know how many people are searching Nakamoto, if he shows off police will put him/her or a team into the jail, they would require something to kill bitcoin or force the bitcoins be burned or get into circulation, or worse going auction. I do hope he keep hiden, the last person that claimed Nakamoto identity just hasnt balls to proof or sign any message from the adress.

Why they will put he in the jail?

Maybe, out of sheer frustration and butthurt that Bitcoin is giving them? They wouldn't necessarily put him in jail, but they (I mean alphabet agencies, before all) could easily make his life unbearable, or, what would be even worse for Bitcoin, they might make him an offer that he couldn't possibly refuse and use him to discredit Bitcoin or do something to that tune. Provided Bitcoin itself is not their creation, in the first place...

By them I mean alphabet agencies such as CIA, NSA and their likes

Something like the Snowden?

Obama said he was thankful  for the things that Snowden do however he(government) can't forgive him lol and that's why the guy will never go back to USA

Obama is a loud mouth, and has always been that

Now he is a lame duck, anyway, so he can speak whatever he might think. Not that his words mattered a lot before since he was just saying whatever he was told to say by his masters, but now no one gives a fuck about his opinion any more altogether. Trump is a loud mouth too, there's no doubt about it, but I don't think that he will let anyone force him into doing something which he is strongly opposed to. And he might actually forgive Snowden, after all

Satoshi is doing well keeping in the shadow.

We can only hope for that

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November 24, 2016, 01:16:15 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?
Satoshi want to be anonymous just like on his invention which is bitcoin. He dont want to be famous he just want to create bitcoin just for online and money transfers which is indicated on its whitepaper.If he appears on media for sure he already treated by the government just like an criminal and they will surely do that because satoshis invention is really against on the government.Therefore this makes no sense because satoshi wont  appear anytime soon and will remain anonymous.

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November 24, 2016, 01:25:23 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?
Satoshi want to be anonymous just like on his invention which is bitcoin. He dont want to be famous he just want to create bitcoin just for online and money transfers which is indicated on its whitepaper.If he appears on media for sure he already treated by the government just like an criminal and they will surely do that because satoshis invention is really against on the government.Therefore this makes no sense because satoshi wont  appear anytime soon and will remain anonymous.
Satoshi becomes anonymous and leaves only hid creation and his name. Its for his safety to hide himself from the public. He might be arreseted or make himself in troubled if he dont make himself anonymous. All of us here are benefited from the creation of satoshi nakamoto.
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November 24, 2016, 09:51:20 PM
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Satoshi for me looks like Banksy, an artist that don't show your face and maybe this increase their art "value", so Satoshi can be here working with other alias... so let's go to the question:

What could happen if Satoshi appears?
If he start to appearing on media and things like that, can pump the coin?
If he's an criminal or something like that, it can dump the coin?
Satoshi want to be anonymous just like on his invention which is bitcoin. He dont want to be famous he just want to create bitcoin just for online and money transfers which is indicated on its whitepaper.If he appears on media for sure he already treated by the government just like an criminal and they will surely do that because satoshis invention is really against on the government.Therefore this makes no sense because satoshi wont  appear anytime soon and will remain anonymous.

You seem to overlook that he still has around 1 million bitcoins sitting idly in his wallets. If he is still alive (let's hope for that) and doesn't rot in  some ugly place like Guantanamo Bay, he must have some plans for his bitcoins (let's assume again that he didn't lose the keys). In this way, we may still expect his appearance or at least some evidence that he is still sticking around whenever he decides to touch his coins. Really, if he didn't want to have anything to do with Bitcoin any longer, why not donate them, say, for medical research or things like that?

Otherwise, he shouldn't be actually considered as left for dead, so to speak

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November 27, 2016, 06:56:01 PM
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If Satoshi ever appears, which is not likely to happen, then that will surely give bitcoins some more goodwill as its original dev would be joining hands and getting back on work. And who says Satoshi's a criminal?
Well, if he'd be, then his coins won't have been in his wallets till now.
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November 27, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
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Dead or alive, a group or a single person, the mistery and the disappearance makes the bitcoin more stronger, like said before: We all are Satoshi Nakamoto and none will stop the cryptos!
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November 28, 2016, 03:55:52 AM
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He was such an huge mind gamer. Just with few bytes of codes he had changed the history of the world. Such an crazy invention he had done. I really salute him for his great mind. As his mind bitcoin also had gone huve popular and it's the father of all cryptocurrency

I wouldn't be so enthusiastic and bombastic

The long-term success of Bitcoin is still not set in stone. Bitcoin is used only by roughly half a million people on a regular basis, and have been likely used only by a few million people altogether. In this way, claiming that Satoshi has changed the history of the world is juvenile at worst and premature at best. Bitcoin may potentially deliver a strong financial impact of the world scale, but it is too early to tell anything conclusive or definitive yet
Some people are often referred to as visionary, because they made it seeing ahead of time and that can be very well ascribed to bitcoin and blockchain technology, Satoshi invented. There is no denying the fact that bitcoin has changed the way you and I were used to money and many more people across the globe are fast keying in.
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December 27, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
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Dead or alive, a group or a single person, the mistery and the disappearance makes the bitcoin more stronger, like said before: We all are Satoshi Nakamoto and none will stop the cryptos!

Well, now in that time, I also think that all crypto currencies, especially bitcoin always remain, and almost of the chances are here, other new crypto would be come. But i have strong thinking about satoshi or bitcoin, it would be remain for a long time,or  may be forever. But about the thread, satoshi is a part of bitcoin. Bitcoin is incomplete without satoshi, and also satoshi has no value without bitcoin.   
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