After going on and on for a couple of days, it seems the deal that I escrowed between the mentioned users, aren't going anywhere so as their middleman, I'm opening this thread in hope of finding a solution or a way to settle the dispute since no matter how hard I tried to helped them, nothing happened and at this point personally I think that I still shouldn't release the funds to either of them so that's why I'm seeking the more experience ones to give their statements regarding how this should end up since one of the involved users, no longer wants for the deal, to work.
Sent to: SFR10one guy is ready to escrow funds with you for this script please accept those funds
Sent to: SFR10I am ready to escrow the winning bid for the bookie software when you get up
Sent to: laura007, prince V Hello,
Kindly use the following format so I could inform you guys about the next step.
Buyer:
Seller:
Escrow fee covered by:
Details of the deal:
Amount in Bitcoin:
Extra details:
Also always reply to all so both of you would be updated at the same time.
Best regards
~SFR~
Sent to: SFR10Buyer:laura007
Seller:Prince V
Escrow fee covered by:me
Details of the deal:Will install the software on my domain and hosting and confiqure
Amount in Bitcoin:0.4
Extra details:Will receive source code in zip file and be the owner of the source code which I will put a record on the blockchain to the effect of that
Sent to: laura007, prince V Buyer:laura007
Seller:Prince V
Escrow fee covered by:me
Details of the deal:Will install the software on my domain and hosting and confiqure
Amount in Bitcoin:0.4
Extra details:Will receive source code in zip file and be the owner of the source code which I will put a record on the blockchain to the effect of that
Noted. Kindly forward (0.4 + 0.004)
0.404BTC to my
BTCitcoin address: 1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
As soon as it gets one confirmation, I'll be informing both of you so Prince V could forward the script.
Sent to: SFR10Bitcoin sent its very slow this morning to arrive so please be patient lol
Sent to: laura007Just got the transaction on my address
Will update both of you when there's one confirmation (as go signal).
Sent to: SFR10Bitcoin sent its very slow this morning to arrive so please be patient lol
Sent to: laura007, prince V
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is SFR10, from bitcointalk.org. Today is 11/15/2016 and I confirm holding 0.4[btc] for a deal between "laura007" and "prince V".
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
IKDveZIIscl4r8X54ZHtLqFhXoO9nZV5DmWzj1goebwBRUN1BaYUsr8JsjgeytK4WcQgtkgmHpvXgwEJmXNsnIk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
There's one confirmation on the transaction now. prince V you may forward the script to him and laura007, kindly inform me everything is done so I would be releasing it to him.
Best regards
~SFR~
Sent to: SFR10He is actually installing the script that's part of the deal
Sent to: laura007I see. Kindly inform me when everything is done between you guys.
Sent to: SFR10i have sent him complete script in project.zip and even uploaded files in his server
we have completed work from our end can show ss of lauras message confirming recieving of zipfile.and can show you even files we uploaded in his cpanel
have sent you ss via email
Furthermore, prince V sent me the following through email:
please check this ss of my msgs of him confirming recipt of script.we have uploaded filea also on his cpanel will give you thise details if you want.script has been sucessfully transfer.so now you can release the funds
This is the image he sent me in email (I re-uploaded it in imgur):
http://imgur.com/a/V0thZSent to: prince VThank you for informing me. Will send him a PM shortly and wait for his confirmation before I release the funds to you. May I know which address I should be sending to?
Sent to: laura007Hello,
He sent me a PM about completion of the work between you guys. Kindly confirm so I could release the funds to him.
Sent to: SFR10can you send in neteller id:indumatibhatt@gmail.com
Sent to: prince VI can't (due to my location I can't use any other method, other than BTCitcoin). Kindly provide your BTCitcoin address.
Sent to: SFR101LBV2tkztBpMFohtdCVVdhtH71uvuMsWZp
this is my btc adress send me here.in email i have shown you ss of msg hope to recieve mny soon
Sent to: prince VNoted. Will release the funds, as soon as he confirms by PM.
Sent to: SFR10has he not sent you pm yesterday confirming recieving of software?because had recieved before 24hrs and he said he recieved it and sent me pm stating same so sent you proof of it via pm and we finished uploading also yesterday but after that he didnt come online please check email(proof that he recieved)his cpanel where we have even uploaded files for him.
This is the domain and hosting for the script
cPanel Access
cPanel URL [censored due to security reasons]
cPanel Username [censored due to security reasons]
cPanel Password [censored due to security reasons]
its ur duty to release funds now as all proofs are shown where we have completed our work and buyer didnt come online after recieving of script.please do needful and transfer because work completed from our end and he gave confirmation.
Sent to: prince VNo he hasn't sent anything yet. I'm waiting for him to come online. I won't be looking at the cPanel, as I stated: I will wait for his confirmation here, before I release the funds.
Sent to: SFR10he gave confirmatory proof of recieving and pic of that confirmation which he gave i have sent you via email please check it.he didnot confirm to you i dont know why.
work is done and he didnt come online after confirming recieving script.
Sent to: prince VProbably he forgot to confirm before he went off. Be patient, eventually he will come online.
I've seen the SS but it only states him downloading it and not saying the work is done.
You don't have to worry, your money is safe
Sent to: SFR101ij5jZSQzuP2E76roJYpoGTpxvtjsNkiQ
please send to this bitcoin adress it is linked to my neteller acc.am really sorry for disturbing you a lot
Sent to: prince VNoted, will send there instead. It's fine.
Sent to: SFR10Slight people's just now he hascrashed the server according to my hosting
Sent to: laura007, prince VSlight people's just now he hascrashed the server according to my hosting
So there's a problem? Kindly communicate with each other in solving the issue.
Also please, use
"reply to all button" instead of "reply" so everything would be transparent between both of you and I wouldn't keep on adding both of you to the conversation.
Sent to: SFR10He is telling me the script wont work on SSD hosting only VPS surely he should have noticed this when loading the files.Now he says he is prepared to load it on to vps he can get cheap but wants the funds released first.Advice?
Sent to: laura007 The whole point of acquiring my service (providing escrow) for the deal is to make sure everything is done by him, prior to me releasing the funds, so my advice would be to make him load it on a VPS, then when everything is checked and done, I'll be releasing the funds.
I don't know why he keeps on insisting for releasing the funds (funds are secured, it won't go away).
Sent to: SFR10He keeps offering more and more if I release escrow full cloudflare etc it has me wondering about his motives
My last message from him
vps is charged dear and even a .com domain and we are also giving you a customised theme there is nothing to make by cheating.you can also see we have uploaded all files and we will reupload all it in your new server.but i need to pay people for installing also.funds are with escrow but he is not going to buy you a vps domain business email.. even theme we have made a very good theme and we are going to customise as per ur needs and we will integrate payment methods also for u.and am giving you a complete source code.if funds are with escrow how can i buy vps a domain then a theme and then script installing guy.please understand.
if you believe me you can release funds and i guarantee you everything will be done in next 30hrs.
You can trust me
Sent to: laura007It's up to you but such behavior is very shady. He could just run away since has nothing to lose here (a Jr. member here).
If I were you, I would rather be safe for what I came to purchase instead of putting my hopes high for everything he says.
Let me know what will be your final decision (take note: I won't be reliable for anything that would happen after releasing funds to him)
Sent to: SFR10now he is asking for me to lie to you and tell you job done so no i am not releasing escrow I think its a really shady thing this and there is about 300 dollars at stake
Sent to: laura007 I told you, be careful with such users..
Sent to: laura007, SFR10she is not having proper server domain or theme or business email and we are going to setup that also for him.so we need to purchase that and vps hosting for 3mnths and all means we need to pay.we have given him complete source code now so please advice him to release funds so that we can do remaining things for him
Sent to: laura007, prince VDue to the following PM by him, I won't be releasing the funds (yet), unless you deliver.
now he is asking for me to lie to you and tell you job done so no i am not releasing escrow I think its a really shady thing this and there is about 300 dollars at stake
Sent to: laura007, SFR10is it possible to setup without a domain and server?no vps no domain have given him complete script with source code what can i do now.we have uploaded all files.till he doesnt upgrade server from his end we cant do anything.
ok i have msgd him
ok lets wait for his reply now
Sent to: SFR10, prince V I have a finance meeting for at least an hour please either finish job or strip out code from server as its no use to me in this state
Sent to: laura007, prince V I would appreciate if both of you could come to an one decision (if it would be finished or codes would be taken away from server).
Take note: Until an agreement doesn't happen between both of you, the deal keeps on prolonging.
Kindly update me with final decision.
Sent to: laura007, SFR10already given you source code via dropbox cant leave at this stage.escrow 0.1btc more we will then buy server domain all for you
codes cannot be taken away because already given him as zipped file format via dropbox and he has downloaded it.so please dont payback mny to him because he is having script with source code
Sent to: laura007, prince Vcodes cannot be taken away because already given him as zipped file format via dropbox and he has downloaded it.so please dont payback mny to him because he is having script with source code
I wasn't going to send back the money (yet). Will wait for him to respond to your last PM:
already given you source code via dropbox cant leave at this stage.escrow 0.1btc more we will then buy server domain all for you
If he will be sending another 0.1
BTC to me (for escrow), then kindly do as follow:
Kindly forward (0.1 + 0.001) 0.101
BTC to my
BTCitcoin address: 1Gm5K2H2fjD2oiTn4rWC5GwQMn2xMUBc5g
As soon as it gets one confirmation, I'll be informing both of you with a signed message (like before).
Sent to: SFR10, prince VI bought a working website not some code till i see that I dont care how long the escrow holds the money,why you just dont do that and get the deal finished I dont know.This asking to lie to escrow release money before job done makes me more wary than ever
Sent to: laura007, SFR10you will get a sportsbetting website ready and working within next 24hrs is it ok?
Sent to: SFR10I am sorry for all this bother but this man changes the goalposts everytime he PMs if there was a server problem he should have brought it up at the time and said an SSD server was no use not 3 days later when you can't get the script to work and then blame it on server
Sent to: laura007I understand you, honestly I get your point. Hopefully he makes it up somehow.
Will wait to see what will happen... I won't be getting in the way of your conversations but kindly continue as "reply to all" so I could monitor his behavior.
Sent to: SFR10, prince Vyou will get a sportsbetting website ready and working within next 24hrs is it ok?
yes fine
Sent to: laura007, SFR10Just to clarify to ensure no disputes ahead,
Theme customisation and feeds are not involved in script so that work can be done only if escrowed 0.1btc more as stated before.
But before begining that work(if you give us that work) after delivering script with complete betting software(manually feeds creating to show that software works properly)affiliates live chat things added you will tell escrow to release funds.can i get a confirmation from you regarding this?
hope u recieved last pm i sent waiting for your clarification confirmation pm.eventhough the thing was already stated before still i need to confirm again.
thank you and i will wait for you to confirm
Sent to: SFR10, prince VI will release the escrow when I am satisfied that I have a working website,that should have been delivered 24 hrs ago.That was the agreement,you seem more interested in getting the escrow than doing the work and I am ready to tell you to keep your website
Sent to: laura007, SFR10 you took away script with source code.gave cpanel details of a site which doesnt work and u didnt reply back to pms till now so i didnt deliver.escrow xant release back ur funds because you have taken my script.mny was for script not for installing it.script with source code was for sale not a betting website.
we have already delivered you.till we dont get reply for my last pm we cant work ahead and you cant get funds back
Sent to: laura007, prince VI will release the escrow when I am satisfied that I have a working website,that should have been delivered 24 hrs ago.That was the agreement,you seem more interested in getting the escrow than doing the work and I am ready to tell you to keep your website
you took away script with source code.gave cpanel details of a site which doesnt work and u didnt reply back to pms till now so i didnt deliver.escrow xant release back ur funds because you have taken my script.
mny was for script not for installing it.script with source code was for sale not a betting website.
we have already delivered you.
till we dont get reply for my last pm we cant work ahead and you cant get funds back
Just to help speed up the process,
this is the PM laura007 hasn't responded to (in case he missed it):
Just to clarify to ensure no disputes ahead,
Theme customisation and feeds are not involved in script so that work can be done only if escrowed 0.1btc more as stated before.
But before begining that work(if you give us that work) after delivering script with complete betting software(manually feeds creating to show that software works properly)affiliates live chat things added you will tell escrow to release funds.can i get a confirmation from you regarding this?
Also this is the agreement between you both (just a reminder):
Buyer:laura007
Seller:Prince V
Escrow fee covered by:me
Details of the deal:Will install the software on my domain and hosting and confiqure
Amount in Bitcoin:0.4
Extra details:Will receive source code in zip file and be the owner of the source code which I will put a record on the blockchain to the effect of that
I've highlighted the needed parts (hope it helps).
Sent to: SFR10, prince V Sorry its Sunday and I have a family I cant reply to his PMs at 3am my time.I should have had a working script yesterday,he now is in breach of his SECOND aggreement and I believe he has had ample time to do the work.He sends more PMs about releasing funds than doing work I no longer want to work with this man
Sent to: SFR10My fear now is that when a dispute arises in work where real money is used he can leave back doors.Also he locked the thread saying the script was no longer for sale but I see the thread is open again.I no longer want to work with this man
Sent to: laura007 The thread was locked since you were buying the script, and now it appears unlocked.
for now i am locking thread it will be unlocked if auction starts
Regarding back doors, you could always show the script and all the codes to someone that could identify if there's a backdoor or not. Until there's no 100% certainty, I'll have to hold unto the funds (just to be sure).
Sent to: SFR10I should have had a working website Friday then it was put back to Saturday now Sunday I have no site I am pissed off and no longer want it.He is in breach not me!
Sent to: laura007I understand but the issue is, you have the script. You should have left the script to him since he was going to install it and now, that has made the whole process much more complicated than it should be (that's why you can't just back out).
If I understood the situation correctly, his problem is a VPS and a website, am I right? Is there a chance that you could purchase the VPS yourself so he could get the job done?
Something like this:
https://steadyturtle.com/vps-hosting.phpI've bought some hosting's and websites with them (using bitcoin) so their trusted. They also have 20 to 30% discounts and also have a thread on this forum).
Or to open a thread publicly and post all the proof you both have on your side (to defend yourselves) and let everyone to examine the situation so we could come up with a solution (in which it will affect one of you). After that, I will be posting all the evidence that I have on both of you guys, so others will get the whole picture and decide.
(this is the last solution in case both of you continue to not make it work between you guys).
Sent to: SFR10Or to open a thread publicly and post all the proof you both have on your side (to defend yourselves) and let everyone to examine the situation so we could come up with a solution (in which it will affect one of you). After that, I will be posting all the evidence that I have on both of you guys, so others will get the whole picture and decide.
(this is the last solution in case both of you continue to not make it work between you guys).
I am happy with that to take this to arbitration by my peers,but no longer want to deal with him
Sent to: laura007Noted. It's up to you if you want to wait for him to respond to your last reply (I suggest you to wait, so you could add his last response on that thread too) or to open a thread about the deal between you guys (before he responds).
Kindly inform me about the link of the thread (whenever you post).
Sent to: SFR10 i will wait a couple of hours to give him a chance to reply.After that I will seek your advice when you are free to tell how to put this to the forum
Sent to: laura007Sure, take your time. I'm here, in case needed.
Sent to: laura007, SFR10I will release the escrow when I am satisfied that I have a working website,that should have been delivered 24 hrs ago.That was the agreement,you seem more interested in getting the escrow than doing the work and I am ready to tell you to keep your website
you took away script with source code.gave cpanel details of a site which doesnt work and u didnt reply back to pms till now so i didnt deliver.escrow xant release back ur funds because you have taken my script.
mny was for script not for installing it.script with source code was for sale not a betting website.
we have already delivered you.
till we dont get reply for my last pm we cant work ahead and you cant get funds back
Just to help speed up the process,
this is the PM laura007 hasn't responded to (in case he missed it):
Just to clarify to ensure no disputes ahead,
Theme customisation and feeds are not involved in script so that work can be done only if escrowed 0.1btc more as stated before.
But before begining that work(if you give us that work) after delivering script with complete betting software(manually feeds creating to show that software works properly)affiliates live chat things added you will tell escrow to release funds.can i get a confirmation from you regarding this?
Also this is the agreement between you both (just a reminder):
Buyer:laura007
Seller:Prince V
Escrow fee covered by:me
Details of the deal:Will install the software on my domain and hosting and confiqure
Amount in Bitcoin:0.4
Extra details:Will receive source code in zip file and be the owner of the source code which I will put a record on the blockchain to the effect of that
I've highlighted the needed parts (hope it helps).
exactly am waiting for reply to that 1 clarification pm.and i didnot send any pm after that about releasing funds or anything but didnot recieve any clarification pm yet which was requested.till that clarification is not made which was an agreement there is no use for me to go ahead.he has my script so if he doesnt want this work to be done which he has stated in his new pm sent to me today then its mistake from his side to break off the agreement so as he is even having my script with him and he is breaking agreement i should not lose my funds.
2nd:i agree with second agreement of installing the software and will do that also only thing needed from him is a confirmatory pm for which am waiting from 48hrs.
Sent to: SFR10, prince Von Friday you promised a Working website in 24 hours you failed to deliver I will take this to arbitration on this forum within the hour after I finish my family meal
Sent to: laura007, SFR10 no reply from your side to my pm so didnot deliver.i have followed all rules of agreement but u didnot even you didnot listen to escrow and still didnt reply.
you can do hell you want you cant thteaten by saying will take case here or there.till u dont reply cant go ahead becoz i also cant believe you.you have to give a clarification which was asked 48hrs ago and u were online still u didnt give so work was stopped.regarding delivery it was given on time you all files were put up on your server you used ssd rather than vps not my fault.
giving delivery 2nd time so asked for clarification which you failed to give.you can take this to forum for arbitration as u said then you wont get anything more and i will get my funds because i will selling script with source code which is already delivered
please talk with laura and do a final decision srf10.please tell wats to be done ahead
Sent to: laura007, prince V I've already done that and it seems he has a final decision.
prince V and
laura007 kindly add if there's more evidence and I missed something that was between you two only.