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April 06, 2013, 06:34:04 PM Last edit: April 06, 2013, 08:31:07 PM by mai77 |
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Stateless folks ("Staatenlose" etc.) might consider bitcoin a reserve currency.
More and more people give up their nationality to no longer be subjected to state terrorism, esp. in the west.
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June 12, 2013, 12:56:54 AM |
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I dont believe there is anyone in the world who is "stateless" every inch of the planet is claimed by somebody
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June 12, 2013, 09:18:26 AM |
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I don't think they choose to be stateless, but rather forced to be stateless. It is different situation altogether in the West.
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June 13, 2013, 03:06:53 AM |
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I wish everyone in the world could be stateless.. A beutiful world it would be.
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June 19, 2013, 07:23:04 PM |
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Does a life of statelessness involve more harm than good? I cant understand why not wanting to pick a plantation to govern over me and my family restrict me from rights as a human being.... am I suddenly less human? I dont become less of a consumer or anything like that, I just dont want to be affiliated with a country... I want my freedom papers!!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 20, 2013, 02:07:54 AM |
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Being stateless isnt a good thing, no healthcare, insurance etc.
Although I do like the idea of not paying taxes :/
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June 20, 2013, 02:26:52 AM |
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Stateless = no passports, so no travel no identity, so not recognised not recognised, so no healthcare, no jobs, no social welfare, nothing 100% freedom ... yup ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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worldinacoin
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June 20, 2013, 08:06:44 AM |
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No passports, no medical insurance, you are as good as dead.
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June 20, 2013, 08:08:54 AM |
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June 29, 2013, 05:57:30 AM |
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July 08, 2013, 12:00:27 AM |
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Today I learned there are stateless people. Crazy!
No taxes = good No council to take care of roads, no healthcare & no passports = bad
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July 08, 2013, 02:22:19 PM |
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I dont believe there is anyone in the world who is "stateless" every inch of the planet is claimed by somebody
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gogulski
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Signature space available for rent.
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July 08, 2013, 05:44:59 PM |
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No nationality = 0% freedom
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July 16, 2013, 01:12:10 PM |
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we only can pray for them
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The revolution will be monetized!
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July 16, 2013, 01:18:04 PM |
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Here are some stateless children enjoying their freedom. The freedom to make bricks. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fscrapetv.com%2FNews%2FNews%2520Pages%2FEveryone%2520Else%2Fimages-10%2Fmodern-slaves.jpg&t=665&c=QV5Fekp3Uc2kNg)
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July 16, 2013, 01:27:50 PM |
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Here are some stateless children enjoying their freedom. The freedom to make bricks. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fscrapetv.com%2FNews%2FNews%2520Pages%2FEveryone%2520Else%2Fimages-10%2Fmodern-slaves.jpg&t=665&c=QV5Fekp3Uc2kNg) Do you know where the picture are take from?
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July 16, 2013, 01:35:01 PM |
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Stateless = no passports, so no travel no identity, so not recognised not recognised, so no healthcare, no jobs, no social welfare, nothing 100% freedom ... yup ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) you dont need a passport to travel. you can travel to many places with a sail boat and no passport i suspect. identity doesn't come from the state.... your parents give you that and later you can chose to change it to something else if you wish, your identity is just what you chose to call yourself everyone has one of those. certainly there is no reason to expect that you couldn't get health care. there are doubtless many hospitals all over the world that would look the other way for cash up front. not everyone needs social welfare.... Also before you say that i said something that i didn't say, refuting your arguments against it is no proof that it would work well only that you haven't proven that it wouldn't. and lastly you would clearly need to be atleast middle class. while it may or may not be the case that wealthy people would experience greater levels of freedom as soverieigns, its clear that poor people would experience less.
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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July 16, 2013, 01:36:15 PM |
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Stateless does not mean that you have no healthcare and insurance. In Europe at least. You can declare yourself stateless and still have those, simply because those are contracts you make, not government benefits... Also, you can travel. There are special papers called Travel Documents for Stateless Persons. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatenlose google translate it if you want.
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July 16, 2013, 01:38:49 PM |
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it says on the wiki the he is a bitcoin talk member. ne idea what his handle is?
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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