shorena
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-snip- My password was not easy. It was difficult and I did not use it everywhere. -snip-
Good, but you still need to ask yourself how someone could have gotten it.
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Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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Casabrandy
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November 28, 2016, 02:04:04 PM |
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-snip- Thanks for your input. But, I'm not going to give in to any wrong traditions established at this forum. Lets consider that I send 1.5BTC to the victim now. Since, I can't stay online 24x7 to check if my account is hacked or not. If my bitcointalk account is hacked again tonight and another stupid trader sends 5BTC without checking my profile, do I have to pay him back too?
How bad is your password that you have to fear its hacked again right away? Do you reuse it on other sites? Registered somewhere bitcoin related recently with the same password? There is no security measure at this crappy forum to prevent account compromise. There should be at least two-factor authentication. Until the forum software is improved to provide account protection, this should be responsibility of the buyer to verify identity and use escrow.
Yes, buyer beware. The forum wasnt hacked though, your account was. If your password is '123456' or you reuse it everywhere it does not matter how good or bad the security of the fourm is. My password was not easy. It was difficult and I did not use it everywhere. I updated my password to even better but since there is not a single security measure at this forum like email confirmation if IP/location changes, I can never be sure that my account is safe. Or else some key logger or hidden apps that installed on your mobile/deskstop that you are using. Do you click suspicious link , maybe you are a victim of phishing or somebody use a brute force to your account.
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fiscorcle
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November 28, 2016, 02:43:17 PM |
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This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account.
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November 28, 2016, 04:01:54 PM |
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Posting details about the email associated with OP's profile after they were hacked Address(doge I think): DQmrF6eYWien3cM7rdnQtKyoPhcBbpyx Email : shersher4u12@aim.comReddit : https://www.reddit.com/user/seeingbye Source - http://doge.gusgold.com/blacklist/blacklist.php
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November 28, 2016, 04:25:26 PM |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe.
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fiscorcle
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November 28, 2016, 04:36:44 PM |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again.
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November 28, 2016, 04:47:24 PM |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again. My password had alphanumeric characters before and now I've updated to add symbols as well. Even if it's hacked again after months or years, It's not logical that the person whose account was hacked should be blamed and demanded pay backs from unless the forum security is improved.
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November 28, 2016, 05:53:03 PM |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again. My password had alphanumeric characters before and now I've updated to add symbols as well. Even if it's hacked again after months or years, It's not logical that the person whose account was hacked should be blamed and demanded pay backs from unless the forum security is improved. It seems that everybody else is saying otherwise. As Quickseller has pointed that out in the other thread on this comprised account. Because if you can not ensure that your account is secure enough then they should ban it so nobody gets scam for this amount again from this very account. This argument is now getting absurd to say the least. It comes down to pure common sense if you are able to run your account or not as everybody else here does.
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November 28, 2016, 06:12:43 PM Last edit: November 28, 2016, 06:28:58 PM by ahmedjadoon |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again. My password had alphanumeric characters before and now I've updated to add symbols as well. Even if it's hacked again after months or years, It's not logical that the person whose account was hacked should be blamed and demanded pay backs from unless the forum security is improved. It seems that everybody else is saying otherwise. As Quickseller has pointed that out in the other thread on this comprised account. Because if you can not ensure that your account is secure enough then they should ban it so nobody gets scam for this amount again from this very account. This argument is now getting absurd to say the least. It comes down to pure common sense if you are able to run your account or not as everybody else here does. There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io. I don't want to get blamed like this again. Maybe you along with "everybody else" here are 100% sure that their account can never be hacked but I can never be 100% sure after what happened today. So, I just want everybody to know that they should not blame in future if they didn't use escrow/verified Keybase.io while trading with my account. Still, if the other community members also think that my demand is absurd, I'll stop using the forum till the account security/forum software is improved and request a ban for my account.
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November 28, 2016, 06:58:20 PM |
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Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again. My password had alphanumeric characters before and now I've updated to add symbols as well. Even if it's hacked again after months or years, It's not logical that the person whose account was hacked should be blamed and demanded pay backs from unless the forum security is improved. It seems that everybody else is saying otherwise. As Quickseller has pointed that out in the other thread on this comprised account. Because if you can not ensure that your account is secure enough then they should ban it so nobody gets scam for this amount again from this very account. This argument is now getting absurd to say the least. It comes down to pure common sense if you are able to run your account or not as everybody else here does. There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io. I don't want to get blamed like this again. Maybe you along with "everybody else" here are 100% sure that their account can never be hacked but I can never be 100% sure after what happened today. So, I just want everybody to know that they should not blame in future if they didn't use escrow/verified Keybase.io while trading with my account. Still, if the other community members also think that my demand is absurd, I'll stop using the forum till the account security/forum software is improved and request a ban for my account. What exactly is your demand again? Not to have to pay back the 1.5btc that was lost because of your account being misused? The fault goes to the forum administrators for not implementing a security measure that can benefit everyone else to not have to come up with excuses when and if it happens to them? I think you should bring it up directly with them then instead of asking everybody else their opinions on this situation that totally lies in your hands.
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shorena
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November 28, 2016, 07:52:59 PM |
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-snip- There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io.
Should I leave this as a permanent negative rating on your account to make sure for the future? (serious question) I don't want to get blamed like this again.
I understand you, but did you talk to the person that got scammed? Usually they accept at least part of the blame and might be willing to share the loss evenly. Would that be something you can agree on? Do you accept at least a partial responsibility?
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Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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^^^^ Well I would hope so because if not then people here would be getting away with murder trying these attempts knowing they can get off scott free with out paying for the consequences. I am pretty positively sure that the scam victim would like atleast 70% of their coin back no matter where it came from.
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November 28, 2016, 10:57:47 PM |
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-snip- There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io.
Should I leave this as a permanent negative rating on your account to make sure for the future? (serious question) I don't want to get blamed like this again.
I understand you, but did you talk to the person that got scammed? Usually they accept at least part of the blame and might be willing to share the loss evenly. Would that be something you can agree on? Do you accept at least a partial responsibility? I am accepting the partially responsibility just because of my mistake not check his trust rating I send big amount because if I check first then I never send any thing to this user
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November 29, 2016, 12:43:23 AM |
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There is no other to blame but you, the reason of not securing your account from being hacked. The question here is how about the people you scammed I mean the people who got scam when your account was hacked. I guess you must repay them not a whole but just partially because do both sides have its reason to blame
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ahmedjadoon (OP)
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November 29, 2016, 03:20:46 AM |
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-snip- There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io.
Should I leave this as a permanent negative rating on your account to make sure for the future? (serious question) I don't want to get blamed like this again.
I understand you, but did you talk to the person that got scammed? Usually they accept at least part of the blame and might be willing to share the loss evenly. Would that be something you can agree on? Do you accept at least a partial responsibility? I am accepting the partially responsibility just because of my mistake not check his trust rating I send big amount because if I check first then I never send any thing to this user Please communicate with me in PM what do you want me to do.
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ahmedjadoon (OP)
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There is no other to blame but you, the reason of not securing your account from being hacked. The question here is how about the people you scammed I mean the people who got scam when your account was hacked. I guess you must repay them not a whole but just partially because do both sides have its reason to blame
Please throw some light on account security measures on this forum which I didn't avail, so I'm to be blamed for this. Hacker's bitcoin address was 1JmhzYRUNWqTDVLo1UejN7e1C87sitNMBP This too me is really hard to believe this story. When a user starts saying this in there defense "..but my account can be hacked again!" there is something amist here. In saying that then you are implying that everybodies accounts can be hacked at any given time and to not trust no one on this forum. Not even Theymos account. If it could be hacked once, then there is a possibility that it could be hacked again. And, I don't understand why you act surprised. It's not the first time an account was hacked here on bitcointalk. Since there is not a single security feature to prevent a stranger for logging in to my account, I can never be sure my is safe. I am not surprised just stating a point that once a user secures their account it is not very likely it will be hacked into again so soon (within 30 days from the time that it has been hacked into in the first place). Unless you are using a password without alpha numeric characters in place which it is always encouraged to do so too not have password finder programs crack it within that 30 days of when you should of had it changed again. My password had alphanumeric characters before and now I've updated to add symbols as well. Even if it's hacked again after months or years, It's not logical that the person whose account was hacked should be blamed and demanded pay backs from unless the forum security is improved. It seems that everybody else is saying otherwise. As Quickseller has pointed that out in the other thread on this comprised account. Because if you can not ensure that your account is secure enough then they should ban it so nobody gets scam for this amount again from this very account. This argument is now getting absurd to say the least. It comes down to pure common sense if you are able to run your account or not as everybody else here does. There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io. I don't want to get blamed like this again. Maybe you along with "everybody else" here are 100% sure that their account can never be hacked but I can never be 100% sure after what happened today. So, I just want everybody to know that they should not blame in future if they didn't use escrow/verified Keybase.io while trading with my account. Still, if the other community members also think that my demand is absurd, I'll stop using the forum till the account security/forum software is improved and request a ban for my account. What exactly is your demand again? Not to have to pay back the 1.5btc that was lost because of your account being misused? The fault goes to the forum administrators for not implementing a security measure that can benefit everyone else to not have to come up with excuses when and if it happens to them? I think you should bring it up directly with them then instead of asking everybody else their opinions on this situation that totally lies in your hands. Read my post carefully. My demand is that everyone should use escrow+verify my identity on Keybase.io before trading with me from now onwards or else should take complete responsibilty for loss. -snip- There is no rocket science behind "running" the account but all I'm trying to say is that no one should deal with me without using escrow plus verifying my identity on Keybase.io.
Should I leave this as a permanent negative rating on your account to make sure for the future? (serious question) I don't want to get blamed like this again.
I understand you, but did you talk to the person that got scammed? Usually they accept at least part of the blame and might be willing to share the loss evenly. Would that be something you can agree on? Do you accept at least a partial responsibility? Your false negative trust would not hurt me. But, I'm upset with the member's loss and I sent PM to him the moment I got my account back. Still waiting for him to respond though.
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shorena
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November 29, 2016, 08:29:02 AM |
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-snip- Your false negative trust would not hurt me. But, I'm upset with the member's loss and I sent PM to him the moment I got my account back. Still waiting for him to respond though.
Its an offer, not a tread. It can be neutral if you want, but in my expierence those are seldomly read.
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Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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November 29, 2016, 12:13:14 PM |
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-snip- Your false negative trust would not hurt me. But, I'm upset with the member's loss and I sent PM to him the moment I got my account back. Still waiting for him to respond though.
Its an offer, not a tread. It can be neutral if you want, but in my expierence those are seldomly read. Please leave that feedback as neutral. Also, I have already sent message to victim and offered him to settle. Still waiting for his response.
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ahmedjadoon (OP)
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November 30, 2016, 08:24:12 AM |
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I am yet to receive any response from the victim about settling. If he doesn't reply soon I'll assume that he has taken full responsibilty and this case should be closed and all negative feedbacks on my profile should be removed.
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user27
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November 30, 2016, 08:28:24 AM |
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I am yet to receive any response from the victim about settling. If he doesn't reply soon I'll assume that he has taken full responsibilty and this case should be closed and all negative feedbacks on my profile should be removed.
I don't think that is a very professional way of dealing with things. He clearly wrote in this thread that he is willing to take partial responsibility and split the loss between you guys, so why would you logically assume that he has taken full responsibility. Actually, who would like to take full responsibility? It seems like you are trying to escape paying off this thing. I mean in my opinion it's not the way to go about it. Cheers
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