40-70 BTC

[debtstack]

Hello,

Now before you start laughing, I know the likelihood of getting this amount is very small, but there is a reason I'm asking for this amount.

I am creating an app and hopefully a concept for a device that I would like to patent. The app and the device are both based on a concept
I have been outlining for years called an undead network. It covers a basic flaw when doing business in the deep(dark?) web. The problem with
it is that it is still a part of the internet. My concept has no interaction with the internet. The distribution of information/pages is done on a p2p
basis. This may not be important for most people but this means that the network can never be shut down, a site can never be taken down, and
it is almost impossible to find out who the original distributor of the information was.

This concept is a safeguard against spying, censorship, and outright cutting off internet to the people. The amount asked is for patents, finding a
team, and advertising.

Amount:  40 -70 BTC
Repayment Amount: 10% interest on amount given
Repayment Date: June
Wallet: 1PMyYPMpiywByETfQ9VFVQ9uJEYKBwwDCv
Collateral: account

[BitcoinMarshal]

You are going to many red negative feedbacks from many users here better way just arrange some good and solid collateral or try from some other way for this big amount of loan

[Vod]

Hello,

Now before you start laughing, I know the likelihood of getting this amount is very small, but there is a reason I'm asking for this amount.

I am creating an app and hopefully a concept for a device that I would like to patent. The app and the device are both based on a concept
I have been outlining for years called an undead network. It covers a basic flaw when doing business in the deep(dark?) web. The problem with
it is that it is still a part of the internet. My concept has no interaction with the internet. The distribution of information/pages is done on a p2p
basis. This may not be important for most people but this means that the network can never be shut down, a site can never be taken down, and
it is almost impossible to find out who the original distributor of the information was.

This concept is a safeguard against spying, censorship, and outright cutting off internet to the people. The amount asked is for patents, finding a
team, and advertising.

Amount:  40 -70 BTC
Repayment Amount: 10% interest on amount given
Repayment Date: June
Wallet: 1PMyYPMpiywByETfQ9VFVQ9uJEYKBwwDCv
Collateral: account

You need collateral for any loan.  What is your collateral?  (Newbie forum accounts are worthless)

[debtstack]

What can you put up for collateral here?

The only things I can really put up are physical items, and most of them are guns.

[Sex Video Chat VKcams.com]

most of them are guns.

With this money You can got some small Gun Shop.

[Pro Gamers]

You are not somehow to beleive. If you have a project and you think it is good you advertise it and ask for partnerships and funds, lending by your own that huge amount is kinda fishy in my opinion.

[debtstack]

It is not like I don't understand this is "sketchy". I can understand how crazy it sounds. But I have to try. I've been working on it for
years and literally no one has ever made this app. It is a new concept for a new distribution method for electronic information. There is
no way for me to release it without help. No one wants to work with someone who can't pay them and no one wants to take a chance
on someone they don't know so I've been stuck for a while.

I don't really care about the negative votes. I had to at least try.

[vishtany]

Hello,

Now before you start laughing, I know the likelihood of getting this amount is very small, but there is a reason I'm asking for this amount.

I am creating an app and hopefully a concept for a device that I would like to patent. The app and the device are both based on a concept
I have been outlining for years called an undead network. It covers a basic flaw when doing business in the deep(dark?) web. The problem with
it is that it is still a part of the internet. My concept has no interaction with the internet. The distribution of information/pages is done on a p2p
basis. This may not be important for most people but this means that the network can never be shut down, a site can never be taken down, and
it is almost impossible to find out who the original distributor of the information was.

This concept is a safeguard against spying, censorship, and outright cutting off internet to the people. The amount asked is for patents, finding a
team, and advertising.

Amount:  40 -70 BTC
Repayment Amount: 10% interest on amount given
Repayment Date: June
Wallet: 1PMyYPMpiywByETfQ9VFVQ9uJEYKBwwDCv
Collateral: account

sounds reasonable but you are not gonna get great rapport from here but have to give it to your for trying, maybe someone will take look into your proposition.

[Vod]

I don't really care about the negative votes.

AKA I wasn't going to pay back anyway...

You aren't serious, or you would have posted a lot more detail, you'd have partial investment from family and friends, etc

You just came here because you think you're smarter than us and bitcoin is irreversible.

[Omura]

Out of curiosity, how are you going to have a p2p network without the internet? What is your distribution method?

[ThatRandom8543]

40 to 70 btc? You know I got a headache from laughing at this post? Seriously youre not gonna get anywhere close to that amount here. Try some place else like btcjam or whatever site. If you have collateral that worths 120% more than what youre asking that can be sold then sure someone will likely take you up on that offer, but highly doubt anyone will. Especially since you have a red flag on your account, and that you dont care, you should just go away.

[Sweeet]

I don't really care about the negative votes.

AKA I wasn't going to pay back anyway...

You aren't serious, or you would have posted a lot more detail, you'd have partial investment from family and friends, etc

You just came here because you think you're smarter than us and bitcoin is irreversible.

I don't see how you can deal with this since 1970, I've only been checking out these newbie loan posts for a month and I don't see why they keep coming back, or maybe its just a bunch of actual new people.

[debtstack]

I would have given more details into how it worked if I wasn't written off as a con man in the first couple of messages.
I wanted a real concept based around privacy and something that you could actually touch to be created with the help of cryptocurrencies. I
love the basis for it but here it doesn't feel like that is the case. Hundreds of coins are created all the time and people invest all the time. I want
to stop that ridiculous model for cryptocurrencies by creating things of actual value that were funded by it.

I guess if I created another crappy coin and screwed you out of hundreds of bitcoins that would have been a better thing to do than try to create
actual industry with it.

[Vod]

I would have given more details into how it worked if I wasn't written off as a con man in the first couple of messages.

Well, you are a stranger walking into our clubhouse with a mask on and asking for $50,000.

What did you expect?   

[Sweeet]

I would have given more details into how it worked if I wasn't written off as a con man in the first couple of messages.

Well, you are a stranger walking into our clubhouse with a mask on and asking for $50,000.

What did you expect?  

Except that stranger is using one of those robots on wheels with a screen and audio that sick kids use to go to school.

[adaseb]

So basically you want to start a business and want someone else to assume all the risks?

So whether this business succeeds or not, you want to get paid. It doesn't work like that.

You don't need 40BTC for app developement. For developing apps all you need is a simple PC and nothing more except time.

[debtstack]

I would have given more details into how it worked if I wasn't written off as a con man in the first couple of messages.

Well, you are a stranger walking into our clubhouse with a mask on and asking for $50,000.

What did you expect?   

I expected questions about the proposal and exchanging emails with a few people. I didn't ask for
the money to be dumped into my wallet no questions asked. But I would also expect for people
giving out loans to actually have a conversation with that person instead of attacking them. I was
asking for a loan on something I've worked on for years, not a few bucks so I can go buy some beer
and video games. I wrote out a detailed outline of what my concept does. That is far more than a lot of other
people do, and that is because I had something I had worked on and put my sweat into.

[debtstack]

So basically you want to start a business and want someone else to assume all the risks?

So whether this business succeeds or not, you want to get paid. It doesn't work like that.

You don't need 40BTC for app developement. For developing apps all you need is a simple PC and nothing more except time.

I know that. But I am not just creating an app. It is a design for a whole private system within your pocket. It is a secondary device and app for complete anonymity.
There is also no way I could complete the whole thing on my own as there are lack of api's and some concepts are above my programming knowledge. I would also need patent money,
travel money, advertising money, website funds. I didn't pull this number out of no where. I'm asking for the lowest amount necessary.

[Vod]

I expected questions about the proposal and exchanging emails with a few people. I didn't ask for
the money to be dumped into my wallet no questions asked. But I would also expect for people
giving out loans to actually have a conversation with that person instead of attacking them. I was
asking for a loan on something I've worked on for years, not a few bucks so I can go buy some beer
and video games. I wrote out a detailed outline of what my concept does. That is far more than a lot of other
people do, and that is because I had something I had worked on and put my sweat into.

Then don't come into our clubhouse for the first time wearing a mask and asking for $50,000!   

You just don't seem to get the point.  You should have joined the community a long time ago and interacted with us for a while before asking for money.

[debtstack]

I expected questions about the proposal and exchanging emails with a few people. I didn't ask for
the money to be dumped into my wallet no questions asked. But I would also expect for people
giving out loans to actually have a conversation with that person instead of attacking them. I was
asking for a loan on something I've worked on for years, not a few bucks so I can go buy some beer
and video games. I wrote out a detailed outline of what my concept does. That is far more than a lot of other
people do, and that is because I had something I had worked on and put my sweat into.

Then don't come into our clubhouse for the first time wearing a mask and asking for $50,000!   

You just don't seem to get the point.  You should have joined the community a long time ago and interacted with us for a while before asking for money.

I actually used to read the forum posts a long time ago, back in the mooncoin days. After mooncoin and cryptsy happened I left the game for
a while. I may have a new user title but I've been on this site for around three years.