Fuck your vaccines

[awesome31312]

In the 100 or so front page posts on this section that are just about bashing Muslims, black people, and immigrants, I figured we need to focus on more immediate, and important issues.

State mandated vaccines are a tragedy. One cannot call the country he was born in a "Free country", if they support state mandated vaccines, as they are a form of aggression. If you call yourself "pro-choice" but are opposed to vaccines, then you are not pro-choice, you are just a lying, hypocritical, two faced liberal.

What I'm not going to discuss is whether or not vaccines are safe, because my clear position on the issue is that they do cause severe psychological harm, I have witnessed this first hand.

What I am willing to defend, however, is the fact that the government should not have the authority to force you to undergo medical procedures of their choice.

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[olushakes]

In the 100 or so front page posts on this section that are just about bashing Muslims, black people, and immigrants, I figured we need to focus on more immediate, and important issues.

State mandated vaccines are a tragedy. One cannot call the country he was born in a "Free country", if they support state mandated vaccines, as they are a form of aggression. If you call yourself "pro-choice" but are opposed to vaccines, then you are not pro-choice, you are just a lying, hypocritical, two faced liberal.

What I'm not going to discuss is whether or not vaccines are safe, because my clear position on the issue is that they do cause severe psychological harm, I have witnessed this first hand.

What I am willing to defend, however, is the fact that the government should not have the authority to force you to undergo medical procedures of their choice.

Not that I will totally absolve Government from what you accuse them of, but I stand to say, it is not totally unsafe to do vaccine. For example when a child is born all things being equal the antibody of the mother through breast feeding can protect the child for six months after that, when the child is not vaccinated, then the child is prone to several diseases as a result of that.

Over here, the issue of polio has been a call for concern until government mandated that children between the ages of 6 months to 5 years be vaccinated and this has proven to have reduced to a considerable length.

[manbitcoinlover]

I feel like some vaccines are needed but most like yearly flu vaccinations are pure garbage. I am not a medical doctor, but I imagine babies do need to get certain vaccinations, I am sure there are very wealthy people in the world that get injections without all of the nasty chemicals and toxins inside their body, while the public has to get that nasty stuff into our bodies, even though scientists claim its a low amount.

[Tyrantt]

Do you know what would happen if people stopped getting their kids vaccinated just because one out of 10000 kids got autism? There would be an epidemic of diseases and the mortality would be a little higher than usual. I don't know what siht you're getting vaccinated with but in Serbia, I've never seen or heard that some kid got retarded from the vaccine and also they are a must here.

[saddampbuh]

he's probably scared of needles

[BADecker]

That needle is a really small tube to do what you ask in the title.     

[manbitcoinlover]

What? You are saying vaccines they cause severe psychology harm? Eleborate. Please. Are you talking about the autism Hoax?
Also, you are saying vaccines contribute nothing but "severe harm"? Look at the datas man, you can clearly see a downwards trend of child deaths after the vaccinations against measles etcetera, the proof is there (https://medium.com/@visualvaccines/graphic-proof-that-vaccines-work-with-sources-61c199429c8c)url=Take a look]

 Let me explain the principle of vaccines and why it only works if everything gets vaccined, Say for example it is raining (Disease). Everyone puts up there umbrella's (vaccines). If you got one person not having a umbrella, it is not a big deal, he can go stand under one of all the other people, and not get wet. However if everyone does this, there's not going to be enough space, and you'll get wet. (ILL)

This is probably why the government wants everybody to be vaccinated.

if you are vaccinated how can you be at risk though, the vaccination is supposed to protect you from that disease. The only one at risk should be the non-vaccinated person right? That is the logical way of looking at it, unless vaccinations are flawed and far from perfect, which is also true. + there are so many unnecessary vaccinations being promoted to the public that it is a complete joke like the flu shot, I would never take that .

[praboso96]

There are so many child deaths worldwide from compulsory vaccination. Many governments have allowed parents to abandon children vaccination. But there was a problem - do not take these children to school. And it ends with the parents to agree to vaccination

[coolcoinz]

Vaccines are bad? Really? Ever heard of tetanus? A really bad thing to get and very easy when you are a kid running around or riding a bicycle and falling in the dirt.
Nowadays people are trying to protect their children from common cold which is a bit too much in my view but there are diseases like malaria that you just can't ignore.

[AdolfinWolf]

There are so many child deaths worldwide from compulsory vaccination. Many governments have allowed parents to abandon children vaccination. But there was a problem - do not take these children to school. And it ends with the parents to agree to vaccination

What? You are saying there are alot of child deaths due to vaccination?
What? Please source me.

It's easy screaming vaccines are bad, but you'll never hear someone talking about all the lives that are saved due to them. It's in the millions.
Look at the child death graph from before the basic vaccinations in 3rd world countries, and after.
Huge differences. Now tell me where you read that there are so many child deaths due to "compulsory vaccination"?

[Shankara]

whatever

just refuse and resist

[IIOII]

State mandated vaccines are a tragedy. One cannot call the country he was born in a "Free country", if they support state mandated vaccines, as they are a form of aggression. If you call yourself "pro-choice" but are opposed to vaccines, then you are not pro-choice, you are just a lying, hypocritical, two faced liberal.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. In my opinion, no one should be forced to receive medical treatment of any kind, especially not if it's something as controversial as prophylactic vaccination. It clearly stands against free will.

However there seems to be a majority of people advocating for an extension of vaccination programs, actually believing that these are desirable for the public good. These people must be considered henchmen of the medical industry and the ever growing socialist oppression by government.

[Momus]

Many modern health “authorities” credit vaccines for the decline in disease and assure us that vaccines are safe and effective. But is that true? Take a close look at the following graphs and you will see the reduction in deaths from pertussis (whooping cough), diphtheria, polio and measles.

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Notice that these diseases were virtually wiped out before the introduction of their respective vaccines! Rather the decrease in these childhood maladies weren’t due to vaccinations (as you may have been told), but were mainly the result of improved public health and hygiene (including sanitation and cleaner drinking water) during that time.

[gentlemand]

"State controlled aggression" stops your offspring from dying horribly. I'll quite happily let the statist penis slide all the way inside me if stops my little darlings from sicking up their own pelvises because some freeman on the land fuckhead doesn't get his spawn dealt with.

[Tyrantt]

he's probably scared of needles

Well I'm scared of needles but dammit, if I need to get a shot for something I'll clench my butcheeks but still I'll take that shot.

[awesome31312]

You guys are so hopeless.

Did you read my post?

I am not saying you shouldn't get vaccinated. I'm only stating that the government does not have any role in shoving medical procedures down your throat. An example of forcing people to undergo medical procedures because of primitive collectivist beliefs of the time is circumcision. Look at how bad that turned out, for everybody.

[Masha Sha]

Have the vaccines pushers been killed? I hope so

[just_Alice]

You guys are so hopeless.

Did you read my post?

I am not saying you shouldn't get vaccinated. I'm only stating that the government does not have any role in shoving medical procedures down your throat. An example of forcing people to undergo medical procedures because of primitive collectivist beliefs of the time is circumcision. Look at how bad that turned out, for everybody.

The Government shouldn't force any adult to udergo medical procedures the adult in question doesn't want. However, it is not that simple. What about little kids? What about the situation when their hippie parents don't want them vaccinated for the reasons "known" only to them, but the kids need the vaccines?

Do you think these words on Vaccination from the Wikipedia are not true?

"Vaccines have led to major progressions within the United States battle against disease. In 2007, studies regarding the effectiveness of vaccines on mortality or morbidity rates of those exposed to various diseases have shown almost 100% decreases in death rates, and about a 90% decrease in exposure rates." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination - United States Progression

[Slow death]

You guys are so hopeless.

Did you read my post?

I think everyone has read what you posted and I believe that many have come to the same conclusion:

You're afraid of vaccine, maybe you're one of those weirdo guys who's afraid of needle

In my country as we are poor we are obliged to receive many vaccines a year. We must thank the non-governmental organizations that are giving us the vaccines. This has reduced many diseases.

[Sithara007]

Without the vaccines, we would have never eradicated contagious diseases such as polio and smallpox. For every death or injury which resulted from vaccination, tens of thousands of lives were saved. It is stupid as well as extremely harmful to spread negative propaganda against vaccination.