Fuck your vaccines

[Momus]

Medicine and especially drugs and vaccines played no part in the fall in Scurvy death rates and the same can be seen for other diseases. Scurvy is a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C. Poor nutrition, particularly a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, can result in Scurvy.  Mortality rates fell dramatically as living conditions improved.

Typhoid and Scarlet Fever vanished without vaccines but with clean water, better nutrition, sanitation and living conditions.

This graph demonstrates that the administration of tetanus vaccine is likely to be pointless and puts children especially at risk of adverse reactions to the vaccines.

There is only one respect in which modern medicine could have had an indirect effect.  This came with the social reforms of 1947-48 which saw the introduction of the National Health Service.  Coupled with this was the start of the reduction in numbers of farm workers with the start of increased mechanisation and industrial scale farming in Britain after the 1939-1945 World War.  The numbers of farm labourers fell by half post war and the increase in mechanisation also reduced the chances of the injuries which were likely to result in tetanus

Fewer agricultural workers coupled with better access to healthcare would result in better treatment of wounds.  Tetanus thrives in deep wounds which are not properly cleansed.  So by having fewer agricultural workers and better wound care could reduce the incidence of tetanus cases.  So if the reduction in tetanus mortality in the 1950s is anything other than part of the continuing decline with better standards of living, those two reasons are the most likely explanations.

see more: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

[TicTacTic]

Medicine and especially drugs and vaccines played no part in the fall in Scurvy death rates and the same can be seen for other diseases. Scurvy is a condition caused by a lack of vitamin C. Poor nutrition, particularly a lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, can result in Scurvy.  Mortality rates fell dramatically as living conditions improved.

Typhoid and Scarlet Fever vanished without vaccines but with clean water, better nutrition, sanitation and living conditions.

This graph demonstrates that the administration of tetanus vaccine is likely to be pointless and puts children especially at risk of adverse reactions to the vaccines.

There is only one respect in which modern medicine could have had an indirect effect.  This came with the social reforms of 1947-48 which saw the introduction of the National Health Service.  Coupled with this was the start of the reduction in numbers of farm workers with the start of increased mechanisation and industrial scale farming in Britain after the 1939-1945 World War.  The numbers of farm labourers fell by half post war and the increase in mechanisation also reduced the chances of the injuries which were likely to result in tetanus

Fewer agricultural workers coupled with better access to healthcare would result in better treatment of wounds.  Tetanus thrives in deep wounds which are not properly cleansed.  So by having fewer agricultural workers and better wound care could reduce the incidence of tetanus cases.  So if the reduction in tetanus mortality in the 1950s is anything other than part of the continuing decline with better standards of living, those two reasons are the most likely explanations.

see more: https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

Only a Russian can bear such nonsense. Ditch agriculture to defeat tetanus. A good way of dealing with the disease. The following method will wipe out the population to avoid epidemics.

[Betwrong]

What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.

[PetroffVany]

What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.

The effect of cancer treatment is also not 100%. So not to treat? Religion offers an alternative treatment is prayer. Is it a method? I believe that until will not be more effective way you need to use something that is.

[iamTom123]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

[PetroffVany]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

[just_Alice]

What is the dispute? There are vaccines that help fight diseases. Is the opinion of the other side, doing nothing.I understand that so the dispute is not conducted. To cancel you need something to offer in return.

Exactly! That's not enough to say let's not do it and then die from diseases. If there was a way to avoid vaccines but to stay healthy in the same time I'd vote for that, but all the alternatives are not effective so far.

The effect of cancer treatment is also not 100%. So not to treat? Religion offers an alternative treatment is prayer. Is it a method? I believe that until will not be more effective way you need to use something that is.

As I said before, vaccines are not as bad as some people assume they are. Most kids need them and while nothing better is invented we shouldn't oppose vaccination, kids deserve to be in a good health.

[tvbcof]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

A better question is, 'if vaccines are safe, why the need for liability immunity for the pharma companies who make them?'

It's worse than just that these companies make them.  They also do most of the research as well.  Supposedly entities like the CDC look over the research, but for all intents and purposes the pharma industry owns the CDC.  Personnel at the CDC do their time in 'public service' then walk right through the revolving door to make real money in the 'private sector'...as long as they play ball.  Look at the head of CDC under Bush, Julie Gerberding; she went straight on to become president of Merck’s Vaccine division.

[usefrees]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

[chachaa]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.

[tvbcof]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

For those who are unaware, there is nothing particularly new about the leadership class being highly interested in injecting their peeps, the peeps sensing a problem, and tensions coming to a head:

http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/revolts-and-opposition-against-compulsory-smallpox-vaccination/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Revolt

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

[antonioa]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.

yes, the decision will be made by people. But the motivation for this decision will be imposed due to the government's opinion. The government will simply create the conditions, and the people themselves will do everything

[Momus]

Vaccinia is an acute infectious disease caused by vaccination. Vaccination is the inoculation of child or adult, well or sick, with septic matter (pus) derived from suppurating (festering) sores on the abdomen of a previously infected cow. I think this definition is incomplete in an important respect—I should have said that it is a criminal operation.

The disease dates from about the year 1774 when an ignorant and superstitious English farmer, Benjamin Jesty, vaccinated his wife and three children with matter taken from sores on cows suffering with cow-pox," using a darning needle with which to make the incisions. Jesty believed a superstition, then prevalent among the milk-maids, that, one who had had cowpox was immune to small-pox.

Notes of this daring experiment were made by a doctor Nash who died in 1785. At his death these notes passed into the hands of Mr. Thomas Nash who was acquainted with Edward Jenner, a notorious charlatan, who is credited with having "discovered" vaccination. In 1789 Jenner inoculated his eighteen month’s old son with swine-pox matter. He followed this with other inoculations of other children and the filthy practice of vaccination was definitely launched.

An English writer, Arthur Wollaston Hutton, M. A., says of Jenner’s framing and qualifications: "But his professional acquirements were but slender; his medical degree was the outcome of no examination or scientific work, but merely of a fee of fifteen guineas paid to the University of St. Andrews; while his other and more important distinction, his Fellowship in the Royal Society, was obtained by what even Dr. Norman Moore, his latest biographer and apologist, is constrained to admit was little else than a fraud."

Thus we have a filthy practice, born out of the ignorance and superstition of the past and fathered by an ignorant imposter and fraud, palmed off on the world today as a scientific procedure. It is really remarkable, the number of instances in the history of medicine, of practices and theories now in vogue, that owe their origin to ancient customs, traditions and superstitions.

It is not known how remote was the belief among the cow hands and dairy maids of England in the immunizing potency of cow-pox; but it is thought to have come out of the practice of inoculation which was introduced into England from the East, by Lady Mary Wortley Montague, wife of the British Ambassador to the Ottoman Court, in 1717. The practice was abolished by act of Parliament in 1840, due to its evils. In 1754 the Royal College of Physicians issued the following manifesto, which reads strangely like the statements made by physicians today about vaccination:

‘The College, having been informed that false reports concerning the success of inoculation in England have been published in foreign countries, think proper to declare their sentiments in the following manner, viz.: That the arguments which at the commencement of this practice were urged against it have been refuted by experience, that it is now held by the English in greater esteem, and practiced among them more extensively than ever it was before, and that the college thinks it to be highly salutary to the human race."

I mentioned that the inoculation practice was introduced from the east. The date of the origin of this superstitious practice is hidden in the darkness of pre-history. Savage and barbaric peoples, in various parts of the world, practiced inoculation. It is thought to have started in India. where so many of our superstitions originated, and spread from there to Africa and Europe.

See more: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/shelton3.html

[pseexh]

Whether they are effective or not or can cause some side effects or not, I fully agree that the government should not be imposing vaccines but give people that choice to take them or not. The reason why we have imposition is because one person should not be spreading any disease but if the vaccines are effective why be afraid?

Before, no one was afraid of vaccination. Now launched a campaign to discredit vaccination. Maybe it's someone who needs it? Someone provokes a weakening of the immune system of people.

and this is a very interesting idea. Maybe you're right and now there is a specially hidden genocide. Government is not very profitable to have so many people.

Unfortunately the people themselves accept these rules of the game and not leave yourself a chance at life. Besides, the government is to blame it will be impossible, because people are taking such a decision.

yes, the decision will be made by people. But the motivation for this decision will be imposed due to the government's opinion. The government will simply create the conditions, and the people themselves will do everything

I am sure that this situation will lead to casualties. However, do people choose their own destiny. It's their decision. Only I don't want them got sick and infected me and my children.

[tvbcof]

From: http://smartvax.org/2011/04/29/allergy-and-anaphylaxis-history/

The terms “allergy” and “anaphylaxis” were created following a strange illness that affected up to 50% of vaccinated children at the close of the 1800s.

Of course with our modern vaccinations and schedules there are no longer any problems with allergies and no company makes any money selling medicine to people to treat them in a life-long palliative manner.

And so few autoimune related issues either.

No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
“Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

_{(*)not applicable in the state of California.}

[criptix]

From: http://smartvax.org/2011/04/29/allergy-and-anaphylaxis-history/

The terms “allergy” and “anaphylaxis” were created following a strange illness that affected up to 50% of vaccinated children at the close of the 1800s.

Of course with our modern vaccinations and schedules there are no longer any problems with allergies and no company makes any money selling medicine to people to treat them in a life-long palliative manner.

And so few autoimune related issues either.

No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
“Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

_{(*)not applicable in the state of California.}

80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL

[tvbcof]

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No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
“Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

_{(*)not applicable in the state of California.}

80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL

We've earlier established that you have a reading deficit so it would not be a surprise to find one in mathematics as well.  NDD?  Similac baby?  Here are some study words for the day:  'likely', 'possibility', 'less', 'more'.

As an aside, it's worth note that between 60% and 70% of Americans, depending on who's study one uses, now take prescription drugs for one chronic condition or another (and often multiple of them.)  I have no doubt that TPTB would like to see that be up around 90%, and we're getting there.

[criptix]

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No 'scientific' total health outcome studies comparing vaxxed vs. unvaxxed somehow.  Much to difficult I guess.  Hey, here's a very recent article I'd not seen:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/2016-health-study-on-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-children-pulled-from-publication-after-it-found-vaxxed-kids-more-likely-to-get-autism_122016

Maybe, but factual to the point of proof as in the scientific journal article that was “unpublished” after vaccine acolytes raised all sorts of hell about it and the study’s results proving that
“Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."

So you can choose for your kids between the possibility of getting a mild rash (or, to be fair, vicious cough for some weeks) and life-long immunity, or possibly being converted into a life-long retard or life-long consumer of expensive pharma offerings to help with the misery of not being able to breath half the time.  Your choice.*

_{(*)not applicable in the state of California.}

80-85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

You must be one of the life long retarded autist zombies you talk about LOL

We've earlier established that you have a reading deficit so it would not be a surprise to find one in mathematics as well.  NDD?  Similac baby?  Here are some study words for the day:  'likely', 'possibility', 'less', 'more'.

As an aside, it's worth note that between 60% and 70% of Americans, depending on who's study one uses, now take prescription drugs for one chronic condition or another (and often multiple of them.)  I have no doubt that TPTB would like to see that be up around 90%, and we're getting there.

Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.


It is quite funny that especially you are talking about deficits in reading comprehension and stochastic - are you by chance a popular comedian in real life?

[tvbcof]

Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.

You are not saying anything so there are no 'implications'.
If you think you are, just believe me you aren't

And btw, if I wear my white lab coat and eye protection when I post then it's 'science'.

[criptix]

Over 85% of the first world population is vaccinated.

Do you understand the implications of this sentence?
If you think yes, just belive me you dont.

And btw. posting links to blogs is no science.

You are not saying anything so there are no 'implications'.
If you think you are, just believe me you aren't

And btw, if I wear my white lab coat and eye protection when I post then it's 'science'.

85+% of 2 billion people are 1,7+ billion people.

If what you and your blogs states are true we would see a huge amount (tens of millions of people) dying of vaccination and some more millions getting life long diseases which restricts their physical or psychological body functions.

There would be no power on earth that could hide that.


You must be one of the art degree scientists right? 
They always have problems with logic.