[User Generated] - Known alts of anyone

[actmyname]

People have voiced their disapproval of Lauda's actions. The problem is in the demographic of most of them being a bunch of kakapos.

You think any Hero or Legendary member will risk having their account permanently ruined by saying anything against Lauda??

What did I say? I said people have voiced their disapproval of Lauda's actions.

Even great timelord is silent about this one.

Indeed, how interesting!

Timelord was last active a day after the linkage was posted. Not sure if he even saw it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Especially when the references show they aren't lies........

Lauda admits Xanis is his alt (although clearly trying to dance around the subject) but denies that anything Xanis did can be associated with him. Haha!

How's this for showing you up?

I agree that given the evidence, it shows a linkage between Lauda and Xanis. One can assume that at some point, Lauda had control of the Xanis account before it was nuked due to the address linkage.We can assume that the bids on the Xanis account were for the sake of buying accounts... or we can take the other perspective and imagine it being a shitpost.

Given that I had been relatively active during the height of the account sale/shitpost days, I absolutely KNOW that people used to post bids and useless questions on account sale threads. This was to boost their post count so they could farm their peanuts. The very same thing happened in the Lending section and probably still happens now. "collateral?" "read the sticky u need collateral" "lol u won't get a loan without collateral" "haha these newbies" etc.

The chance of Xanis doing this is non-zero. You could say it is more likely that Xanis was actually bidding, but it's uncertain. I admit that I had also occasionally posted on the auction threads about asking for more information about the account sale (just for the sake of posting).Note how I agree with you but have my own opinion on the matter.

[Doc Martin]

or we can take the other perspective and imagine it being a shitpost.

If this standard applies to Lauda, it should apply to everyone. Everyone should get the benefit of the doubt. Because Lauda does.

But clearly, this standard only applies to Lauda. Everyone else caught buying accounts get red paint. From Lauda.

Heck, Lauda was banned several times for spamming, too. Yet adds people to SMAS w/o informing them then neg trusts them just for applying to a sig campaign. You think those people get a second chance?? Haha!! Lauda gets lots of second chances and double standards. Funny that.

[actmyname]

Heck, Lauda was banned several times for spamming, too. Yet adds people to SMAS w/o informing them then neg trusts them just for applying to a sig campaign

I don't see your point here. If I was a reformed thief, am I now disallowed from performing a citizen's arrest upon other thieves?

You think those people get a second chance??

Yes I do.

If this standard applies to Lauda, it should apply to everyone. Everyone should get the benefit of the doubt. Because Lauda does.

I've talked previously about how times have changed and that negative ratings in those days were not usually the norm unless the accounts were hacked.

[Lauda]

Heck, Lauda was banned several times for spamming, too.

Why are you repeating something that is well known and irrelevant? I became a staff member as a result of my ban(s). Without them, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Yet adds people to SMAS w/o informing them then neg trusts them just for applying to a sig campaign.

Both of which are my right. If you try to cheat, then you are not trustworthy and you get tagged.

You think those people get a second chance??

Depends on each individual case.

Lauda gets lots of second chances and double standards. Funny that.

That is a lie. This connection is just a butthurt and weak attempt at discrediting me. The "second chance" regarding Xanis and myself happened during and post the ban.

[Doc Martin]

Heck, Lauda was banned several times for spamming, too.

Why are you repeating something that is well known and irrelevant? I became a staff member as a result of my ban(s). Without them, we wouldn't be having this conversation.and post the ban.

I guess the moral of the story is to aspire to be the worst shitposter in forum history because then you might get promoted to staff?? Good example.

Yet adds people to SMAS w/o informing them then neg trusts them just for applying to a sig campaign.

Both of which are my right. If you try to cheat, then you are not trustworthy and you get tagged.

If you add someone to SMAS without informing them how are they "cheating"?

In fact, even if they know they are on SMAS, how are they "cheating"? Its the campaign managers prerogative to accept an applicant or not on the merits of their posts.

I think this is activity is actually far worse than your account trading history.

You think those people get a second chance??

Depends on each individual case.

Given that you have bid on and offered to buy accounts in the past, will the 8 people that you tagged yesterday with negative trust and the following for feedback be offered a second chance?? "Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming."

Lauda gets lots of second chances and double standards. Funny that.

That is a lie. This connection is just a butthurt and weak attempt at discrediting me. The "second chance" regarding Xanis and myself happened during and post the ban.

Right so you engage in account trading while giving everyone else red paint for doing the same. Your proven alt is perma-banned and engaged in account trading, but you are exempt from having your alt connections added to "[User Generated] - Known alts of anyone." Got it.

And everyone is a liar and deserves negative trust from you for pointing out these proven connections. Cool story!

[Lauda]

I guess the moral of the story is to aspire to be the worst shitposter in forum history because then you might get promoted to staff?? Good example.

No. The moral of the story is that you aren't smart enough to understand it; i.e. you are just a butthurt shill.

If you add someone to SMAS without informing them how are they "cheating"?

That is not cheating, and I have never said that it was.

In fact, even if they know they are on SMAS, how are they "cheating"? Its the campaign managers prerogative to accept an applicant or not on the merits of their posts.

Wrong. If the campaign explicitly states that people on the SMAS list are disallowed, and it links the very same list in the OP of the post then it is up to the potential applicants to check whether they meet this requirement or not (the same goes for any other requirement). Trying to get into the campaign knowing that you are banned is equal to attempting to cheat and thus it gets handled appropriately.

Given that you have bid on and offered to buy accounts in the past

I have not.

will the 8 people that you tagged yesterday with negative trust and the following for feedback be offered a second chance?? "Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming."

Maybe in 3-4 years.

Right so you engage in account trading

That is a lie.

And everyone who is a liar and deserves negative trust for lying

FTFY.
If you were a honest member with actual concerns, you'd be trying to do something beneficial to this forum and not go on vendettas out of spite. Poisoning the well.

[TheUltraElite]

Okay so this is my first attempt at busting some alts based on my own intuition. Lets see if I can bust them properly

Accounts connected: GraceSh0wer, GraceShower

Proof:
1.Newbie accounts with close UIDs and similar usernames.
2.Both have local times similar.
Here are some images which have shown these evidences:

&

3.
GraceShower made a post on: November 10, 2017, 09:22:50 AM
GraceSh0wer made a post on: November 10, 2017, 09:23:34 PM

GraceShower made a post on: November 14, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
GraceSh0wer made a post on: November 14, 2017, 06:11:55 PM

Rest of the posts are also in this format and I guess this shows that it is the same user farming these accounts.

Addresses: None yet but I am expecting some addresses to be posted soon. Since they have started shitposting..

Miscellaneous: They seem to be alts however I will be following up based on any evidence that comes up. As of now I will be keeping an eye on these two.

[BTC-Graphicdesigns]

Oh look who has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar  

I was not caught with anything. The fact that you jump on this pathetic bandwagon just shows how butthurt you are.

Anyone going to whip out the red paint now?

No, as I have not done anything wrong. Unless of course, they plan on abusing their position like a certain someone.

For christ sake the proof is right here!!! Catwoman bought and nuked the account!!!
Theymos I call you out, give her negative trust already!!!

Heck, Lauda was banned several times for spamming, too.

Why are you repeating something that is well known and irrelevant? I became a staff member as a result of my ban(s). Without them, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Yet adds people to SMAS w/o informing them then neg trusts them just for applying to a sig campaign.

Both of which are my right. If you try to cheat, then you are not trustworthy and you get tagged.

You think those people get a second chance??

Depends on each individual case.

Lauda gets lots of second chances and double standards. Funny that.

That is a lie. This connection is just a butthurt and weak attempt at discrediting me. The "second chance" regarding Xanis and myself happened during and post the ban.

My posts get deleted when I say catwoman is butthurt. Catwoman can use the butthurt in every second post she does and the posts dont get deleted! Once again, I call you out Theymos, time to set things straight here!

[Doc Martin]

Given that you have bid on and offered to buy accounts in the past

I have not.

This is a lie. The proof that you bid on and offered to buy accounts is irrefutable. Proof quoted below to make that clear.

If address posting + wallet linkage is not sufficient evidence of alt connections, none of the connections listed in the OP are proven, and you are therefore "a liar" for listing them there (by your standards)...........

Accounts connected: Lauda, Xanis

Lauda nuked the Xanis account in July 2015. It previously had almost 3000 posts.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0159d14a67570b3d/addresses
Lauda: 1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg10896717#msg10896717 / http://archive.is/XzVUk)
Xanis: 1Mx8vNWQKrZpWjYQFa6uMbNeHskPCsyaQR (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cloudbet-signature-campaign-up-to-0-1-btc-per-month-for-50-posts.314489/page-14#post-7131942 / http://archive.is/tikrd / https://github.com/mikispag/bitiodine/blob/master/deploy/classifier/Lists/bitcointalk.csv)

cd40260d5a57d13eb5d2a4582ef036346f2a66ff948f7ba4ef981795bd64b3ef
^^ 19zYTT7QoCqURn5oZw8VMMSo4tbpERUB4i signs with 1Mx8vNWQKrZpWjYQFa6uMbNeHskPCsyaQR (1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD as change address)

3a5f78995c9b93c6192d93fabc4bf0534e27a9b781d42626330d0b6cce41a6d7
^^ 19zYTT7QoCqURn5oZw8VMMSo4tbpERUB4i signs with 1LaudaexFYZano87acDNGscmqDbM3ZTLBD -- provably links Lauda to 1Mx8vNWQKrZpWjYQFa6uMbNeHskPCsyaQR (Xanis)

As I said, Lauda nuked the alt account. But the Xanis address was archived on bitcointa.lk (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cloudbet-signature-campaign-up-to-0-1-btc-per-month-for-50-posts.314489/page-14#post-7131942). It was also archived by a Bitcointalk address scraper on Github (https://github.com/mikispag/bitiodine/blob/master/deploy/classifier/Lists/bitcointalk.csv). A cursory glance through the addresses archived by the scraper shows that they are quite accurate. Pick a few at random and see for yourself.

Miscellaneous notes:

Lauda/Xanis buying forum accounts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320328.msg3435067#msg3435067
http://archive.is/2TBKt
https://i.imgur.com/EBcWS4c.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292662.msg3334977#msg3334977
http://archive.is/qFolm
https://i.imgur.com/Ge0WOAr.jpg

But why would Lauda be buying forum accounts? The answer is obvious:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/primedice-highest-paid-signature-earn-up-to-2-4-btc-month-by-posting.168569/page-465#post-7616384
http://archive.is/4D76m
https://i.imgur.com/OzC84Hy.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216854.msg3005096#msg3005096
http://archive.is/zcn2G
https://i.imgur.com/lCiJZda.jpg

"Signature managers against spam?" Oh, the irony!

There is a non-zero chance that Lauda has used (and continues to use) his Default Trust status to facilitate these account trading and signature spamming practices.

The fact that Lauda has been outed as an account trader while simultaneously heading up the SMAS initiative and being a signature campaign manager himself raises questions about a conflict of interest. In any case, please see the feedback Lauda has left for other users. Specifically, Lauda has extensively tagged users with negative trust with the following feedback: "Account sales encourage scams, spam, and account farming." I agree, and by Lauda's own standards, Lauda is clearly untrustworthy for engaging in these practices.

I don't have the time or energy to look further into this now, but Xanis had thousands of posts in the Altcoin sections. I believe that both accounts were being used to scam giveaways. I've recently archived giveaway entry posts made by Lauda (those which haven't been deleted yet) for further research. Unfortunately, as Xanis was nuked, we only have quotes and archives like bitcointa.lk to work from. C'est la vie.

[Lauda]

Accounts Connected:

#1 Jaycee99
#2 TanClan98

These links are broken and lead to accounts from your previous connection.

Okay so this is my first attempt at busting some alts based on my own intuition. Lets see if I can bust them properly

Accounts connected: GraceSh0wer, GraceShower

It's very likely that they are alts, but we have no non circumstantial evidence. Keep an eye out.

Accounts connected: Relied, Strawbabies

Proof:

"Strawbabies" created a signature campaign services thread and "Relied" commented, but admitted they are the same person writing a false review in the post.

I am not convinced that they are alts. Their profile statistics also don't match up.

We have got a big fish here
Arsen56

Accounts connected:
Heisenberg74, Crystyan, oberon89, aricleather , agoenkjrz,
 wakeupcall, dudupang, montyfd, Lhinglhung, Trevon,
 gamblebuilder, ahmedshawezi, rampalija, dirts, Hypes,
 Omnivion, MindGrenade, wetroof, Maqa71, Kotos123,
 mekler22, ndan13, Loq

Unknown connections:
liberatorium
Capitanike


Proof:
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yd7bd94LuppHsBzoICGYJj3cEuf-eA8AoJPyhmvo45s/edit#gid=1764646260
Arsen56 ETH address - https://etherscan.io/address/0x3b041627814ba14f6d5eaa29249d28df1d463fc8#tokentxns

Addresses:
0x3b041627814ba14f6d5eaa29249d28df1d463fc8 - Arsen56
0xd47538f95737de4ab5e303a8ac0993b820cbb7ea - Heisenberg74
0xe7f97f8b7c2fa3550b76f976d5edb3535b3e11b2
0x21dfe64c86e7ad907eb03d848e763c4f48c382b5 - Crystyan
0x0267626a8b7812826740e1e61f06f9e26e08afcf - oberon89
0x395f63c7a9d9d5fd623f297c3fe3dced1d0197bd
0xf8a3b60272641e216a393e8cfbbdb590cfc69f7c - aricleather
0x62a87c726c7a080e3817bf011ffd636a8ece0411 - agoenkjrz
0x9d8c45d15c216b16c450be5a596c54d124569b44 - wakeupcall
0x7b8b522133769c834328aa292831a3a28906805c - dudupang
0xb5648a334d26edabebb2894b275bc668cd739762 - montyfd
0x224657681f6ed007b1fb79602926fba1c714484d
0xd6fda454ee37acfcb2b582c327b8fbf4df194803
and others.
0x53b30d571423e46153fa56c1fd054317b7872226 - Lhinglhung
All the follows addresses receive coins from Arsen56 in a similar timeframe:
0xacbfc73eee217e45348b8d7aa53c7689dbefb007 - Trevon
0xa6b6002b664b641e090fa46f8e46b8469cc1ebd4 - gamblebuilder
0x50967d9b2ebbba5c20cc0afa6c4c2a7f383fbaaf - ahmedshawezi
0x69e651f34d7bf3c47f629d31a9e966e55db79dd6 - rampalija
0x013231f183616d6a40aa161d0c300cea35dd3d4d - dirts
0xb8aa4193cf7d4123ced1e12684b63affb479530d - Hypes
0x04068a94c20958fd82f90be777219ae7651f3f64- Omnivion
0x8e4551e5e2e482b8bb4af0e4a5a88ef3c21d3c86 - MindGrenade
0x6c1aec43bfee2773160c7a6d55e23f36c29cf25f - wetroof
0x55abeefb64ee8aa299e47001ca7dce8fb87ad2b3 - Maqa71
0xd6fda454ee37acfcb2b582c327b8fbf4df194803 - Kotos123
0x224657681f6ED007B1Fb79602926Fba1c714484d - mekler22
0x395f63c7a9d9d5fd623f297c3fe3dced1d0197bd - ndan13
0x8dda68ad3eda90c4eef5a1776480031be216d074 - Loq

The bolded part does not help me or anyone else. I've spent more time on this connection than I normally do and made it much clearer for the others.

[Lauda]

Reserved 1 more post for the list.

[777Bitcoin]

Accounts Connected:

#1 Nameless27
#2 777Bitcoin
#3 Bubblebit
#4 ALT67890

Proof:

Using Blocktrail...

- Nameless27, 777Bitcoin and Bubblebit connected by 39aNL5grCE7x3HVdECRf3CVne6UeBDtiUC address.

- Alt67890 and Bubblebit connected by 3NZEfFY9GHDXaQQvpowG8cp5XjgEEaLwBP address.

- Alt67... and Bubble connected by 35bDuLoq6R2F4w1UDPS9UjJPcjoN6YHSDh address.

Addresses:

Code:

39aNL5grCE7x3HVdECRf3CVne6UeBDtiUC
3NZEfFY9GHDXaQQvpowG8cp5XjgEEaLwBP
35bDuLoq6R2F4w1UDPS9UjJPcjoN6YHSDh

0x23A38C4825bB1d7aE7882005A9c9b1433d91cCD4

Miscellaneous:

3rd linking address clearly shows him enrolling or trying to enroll in the same campaign with more than one account.

Is this how DT do this, if someone accused anyone of having same account in one campaign without proof then give negative without messaging someone accused of a crime that is not even proven of? Do having 2 accounts with different campaigns that is even not against the rule? Having an alt is not a crime if it is not in the same campaign right or wrong.

[Lauda]

Is this how DT do this, if someone accused anyone of having same account in one campaign without proof..

You are now a confirmed liar that can't be trusted. The proof is there, and is trivially confirmed.

Bitcointalk Name: Nameless27
Forum Rank: Jr. Member
Current Post Count: 35
Bitcoin Address: 39aNL5grCE7x3HVdECRf3CVne6UeBDtiUC
Etherium Address: 0x89f42dcEfBDa73F602BD3256f7955dd65C962783

I'm willing to participate if you have 1 slot for Jr. Member thats open.

Bitcointalk Name: bubblebit
Forum Rank: Jr. Member
Current Post Count: 36
Bitcoin Address: 3NZEfFY9GHDXaQQvpowG8cp5XjgEEaLwBP
Etherium Address:
0x70108dB63448F6Dd416C53123D60F7f6CBd40a06

You're connected to Nameless via:

BctTalk name : 777bitcoin
Rank : Jr. Member
Current post count : 40
BTC Address : 39aNL5grCE7x3HVdECRf3CVne6UeBDtiUC
Wear appropriate signature : Yes

Nameless uses it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2075036.msg20921438#msg20921438

Having an alt is not a crime if it is not in the same campaign right or wrong.

That depends on what you are doing with that alt and how many alts we are talking about.

[777Bitcoin]

Because in the first place if I’m not Nameless27 I would have denied it already and I’m not because in the first place I’m using the same address over and over again. Does having the same address with different campaign a lie to you? I’m not good on this way of arguing why? Because I’m not a good lier and will not attempt to. But give me one same campaign with pay that I’m been with Nameless27 and 777bitcoin. And I will stop.

[Lauda]

But give me one same campaign with pay that I’m been with Nameless27 and 777bitcoin. And I will stop.

Deflecting, are we?

Nameless27 applies to Care4Me campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011748.msg20464436#msg20464436.
Bubblebit applies to the same campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011748.msg20159468#msg20159468.

Both accounts are owned by you (as proven in my previous post and by the person who made the discovery). QED.

[777Bitcoin]

But give me one same campaign with pay that I’m been with Nameless27 and 777bitcoin. And I will stop.

Deflecting, are we?

Nameless27 applies to Care4Me campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011748.msg20464436#msg20464436.
Bubblebit applies to the same campaign here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2011748.msg20159468#msg20159468.

Both accounts are owned by you (as proven in my previous post and by the person who made the discovery). QED.

Let’s talk logically, if applying without proof of acceptance is a crime for any one else. A company with two same last name is not allowed but the one go out and say it’s over is it a violation to you, I don’t know how does a Jr. Member at that time can someone with high rank knows more than what I meant. I don’t want to mean that I’m ignorance because i am does anyone here is not. I would assume we do both know that.

[Lauda]

Let’s talk logically, if applying without proof of acceptance is a crime for any one else.

Logically, you tried to abuse the campaign. Whether you actually succeeded in that attempt or not is not of much relevance (unless we are trying to calculate the damage that you've done).

[777Bitcoin]

Let’s talk logically, if applying without proof of acceptance is a crime for any one else.

Logically, you tried to abuse the campaign. Whether you actually succeeded in that attempt or not is not of much relevance (unless we are trying to calculate the damage that you've done).

Ok, i know I won’t win to someone who is close-minded for reality. I know you lauda and respected you. I’ve been doing Campaigns for my own good that is true but I’m not harming anyone because the time I know the rules, I always follow. Hope you give chances to those have committed an error of applying on they’re newbie career the same chance that the admin give you from yours. I won’t beg for anything because that will not help. Just look at my post everything, if I do harm to anyone or someone. Then destiny will judge me.

[Lauda]

Ok, i know I won’t win to someone who is close-minded for reality.

Ad hominem against someone who bases themselves on logic. Does not compute.

Hope you give chances to those have committed an error of applying on they’re newbie career the same chance that the admin give you from yours.

Almost* everyone deserves a second chance. Given a sufficient amount of time** one account may be flagged down to neutral.
* Chronic scammers and pests like Quickseller do not.
** Do not think that "sufficient amount of time" means 1-3 months and annoy me via PM as some have done.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Let’s talk logically, if applying without proof of acceptance is a crime for any one else.

Logically, you tried to abuse the campaign. Whether you actually succeeded in that attempt or not is not of much relevance (unless we are trying to calculate the damage that you've done).

Ok, i know I won’t win to someone who is close-minded for reality. I know you lauda and respected you. I’ve been doing Campaigns for my own good that is true but I’m not harming anyone because the time I know the rules, I always follow. Hope you give chances to those have committed an error of applying on they’re newbie career the same chance that the admin give you from yours. I won’t beg for anything because that will not help. Just look at my post everything, if I do harm to anyone or someone. Then destiny will judge me.

Dude, your English sucks and your posts suck.  Aside from trying to cheat campaigns with alt accounts, there's no way you should ever be paid for posting here.  It's users like you who are responsible for the extreme avalanche of shittiness that's hit bitcointalk.  Anyone who visited bitcointalk and didn't know what was going on would doubtless scratch their heads and wonder why a bunch of foreigners would waste their time writing unintelligible one-liners that obviously contribute nothing to any discussion.   Not only should you have a neg, you should be permabanned.  So IMO you got off easy.