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December 05, 2016, 11:05:07 AM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
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December 05, 2016, 11:38:17 AM |
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nice post, nice idea, lets try together....
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December 05, 2016, 12:02:26 PM |
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how we can see the coins that we choose will really go up ..? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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December 05, 2016, 12:09:46 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it.
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December 05, 2016, 12:11:24 PM |
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Simple if the pumping price was easy like you said and we do not need whales for this. And it looks like still be useless. But i appreciate your ideas.
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December 05, 2016, 12:16:37 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. maybe i can give the examples. we buy xdn, in poloniex there is big volume, and in bittrex have medium volume. when the traders see the trigger and want to follow to buy, then the other traders will look for this change and will buy. but if the OP wants to make arbitrage, then i think we should thinking about the time for sending and receiving into our wallet. its a good idea, but sometimes, if one market suddenly have a big transactions, then the other market will suspicious and they can close for deposit into the wallet coins. but i think the OP should explain with details about his idea.
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December 05, 2016, 12:20:00 PM |
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Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders.
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December 05, 2016, 12:21:24 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. maybe i can give the examples. we buy xdn, in poloniex there is big volume, and in bittrex have medium volume. when the traders see the trigger and want to follow to buy, then the other traders will look for this change and will buy. but if the OP wants to make arbitrage, then i think we should thinking about the time for sending and receiving into our wallet. its a good idea, but sometimes, if one market suddenly have a big transactions, then the other market will suspicious and they can close for deposit into the wallet coins. but i think the OP should explain with details about his idea. It can be possible if OP intended to just simply lift up a coin to make it looks thats its pumping then after many traders follows its time for it to sell holdings but its really hard if whales will chase after us or play with us its a risky investment and needs to be study before proceeding.
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December 05, 2016, 12:25:59 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. not, I mean to arbitration but create a balance between the market price of coin poloniex and bittrex market, certainly can not be done without a major trader in it
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December 05, 2016, 12:39:32 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. not, I mean to arbitration but create a balance between the market price of coin poloniex and bittrex market, certainly can not be done without a major trader in it rather than to make a balance between the market price of poloniex and bittrex, i will prefer to just play in one market but this idea can be done if for examples there is 10 people in one group, then we split for group A for 5 people to make buy in poloniex, and then group B for 5 people to make buy in bittrex. then it can be work to lift up the price on each market. maybe the simple is like this bro.
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December 05, 2016, 12:49:44 PM |
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so in other words you are trying to not say the name of it but you are in fact trying to make a Pump Group here on bitcointalk!
that never ends well for anyone, you will be tagged and be banned specially since I see lots of brand new accounts (most probably your own alts) and lots of other breaking of rules, and also for others who join in it means they should buy into your sell orders that you have places before announcing. in other words loss for them.
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December 05, 2016, 12:51:52 PM |
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Simple if the pumping price was easy like you said and we do not need whales for this. And it looks like still be useless. But i appreciate your ideas.
maybe my idea is too ridiculous to be applied in the market, because I was still very little experience of cryptocurrency, please guidance for this, thanks for responding to my post.
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December 05, 2016, 01:02:10 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. not, I mean to arbitration but create a balance between the market price of coin poloniex and bittrex market, certainly can not be done without a major trader in it Sometimes, arbitration constrained on time delivery, and it often occurred to me, when prices fall, the coin is still in the delivery ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 05, 2016, 01:15:31 PM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
in fact it is hard to pump some coins even it has little volume in market, and what can we expect from new account that ask people to join in a pump project because we all know that it always end with people that get trapped by it. but good luck for you
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Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders. This is a glimpse of favoring one particular group but that does not mean to stab his own friends in the group.
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maybe my idea is too ridiculous to be applied in the market, because I was still very little experience of cryptocurrency, please guidance for this, thanks for responding to my post.
Its not just ridiculous idea because manipulation is real in altcoin trading, many whales try to make fake volume and price pump to lure other newbie traders to join them so that later on they can dump all their coins. I have lost many times due to this type of fake pump and dump in past, but now i try to only trade with high volume coins so that there will be no any group trying to just pump and dump any random coin. You can see how your idea of pumping random coin works in reality in yobit.
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December 05, 2016, 01:34:41 PM |
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Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders. You just summarized what the OP meant to say - a group of private pumpers and dumpers. Might sound interesting and profitable, but it is unfortunate and an attempt to scam others and that is not what this community stands for. At any rate, it won't get anywhere unless he has tons of coin to be able to jolt the market or if there are a number of whales sharing his dream. In place of that, I would suggest looking into arbitrage trading as there seems to be lot of rooms for that.
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December 05, 2016, 03:30:31 PM |
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Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders. You just summarized what the OP meant to say - a group of private pumpers and dumpers. Might sound interesting and profitable, but it is unfortunate and an attempt to scam others and that is not what this community stands for. At any rate, it won't get anywhere unless he has tons of coin to be able to jolt the market or if there are a number of whales sharing his dream. In place of that, I would suggest looking into arbitrage trading as there seems to be lot of rooms for that. i think its interesting idea but maybe it could work with private group and not for open group and each person will have much of stock not just having big amount of bitcoin and altcoins like Victorycoin said so that group can play with the price and the market. but i think its still difficult to tried with low volume of the coins because the devs will not keep silent for this and only watch the coins being played by some group of traders and i am sure that the devs will make anticipation for this.
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December 06, 2016, 02:42:13 AM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
Well i am sorry i don't understand what are you talking about, do you mean it is arbitase? Looking for different price between markets or you will search the coins that has low volume of transaction, or you will do pump and dump the coins?. I think you have to use other ways to explaining about it. not, I mean to arbitration but create a balance between the market price of coin poloniex and bittrex market, certainly can not be done without a major trader in it Oh ok i have got it, yes you are right it is needs major traders and large of capital. It is bad idea in my opinion because we don't know which the coins are not scam coins except 5 big coins on https://coinmarketcap.com unfortunately will need very very much money if we choose them.
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December 06, 2016, 03:59:51 AM |
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I have some ideas on play altcoin market.
we select some coin in bittrex and poloniex the volume of transactions is still small, we move the market so as volume up and trigger other traders opted to buy. after we buy coin when the volume is still small sell orders that do not put no weight on the support to buy because it was blocked quite a lot of sell orders.
after the transaction volume increased 10 fold we see the movement of the coin. if we want to sell the coin that we have to buy in early at a cheap price, try selling coin if it was an instant only, because let us not interfere with the movement of the coin for a ride.
if you say talk about arbitase is good is only diference price in coin and support two market in poloniex and bitrex and why aribitrase you idear not compare about price, but compare only volume transaction, if price same you can't profit, so is lost withdraw fee and trading fee
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