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December 08, 2016, 08:45:55 PM
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Generally speaking, moving to the Philippines is a step in the direction of slavery. Why? Their government is a civil law government. This means that it is formally a government that is a dictator by government.

Mmm no, they actually have elections. They genuinely seem sick of their of their drug problem, they don't have capital punishment, so the president told the police force that he would basically look the other way if they had to kill a drug "pusher" in a shootout. No doubt innocent people are among the 6,000+ killed by police and vigilantes since Duterte took office. There's also the strong probability that police are extorting people by saying they are drug dealers when they really aren't, yet Duterte seems to be anti-police corruption as well. All I know is I'm not a drug dealer and I don't look like one. I'm also not hanging around the slums of Manila.

You should try some drug dealing there. Heard it's THE upcoming market right now!

Lol. Ironically, the president is pro-medical marijuana, so maybe I can open a dispensary. Though probably not.

Like you mention, it costs a lot more in the USA.  I have to stay here and live and work.  Can you donate to me?  I need the money more than you do?

The solution is that you move to a cheaper place within the U.S. so that way you can still donate money to me. Problem solved.

Thanks everybody else for your suggestions. Keep em coming! I genuinely like learning about international life experiences. I really should be more of a world traveler but I am already comfortable with the Philippines.
Who let you in the US? Trump has made clear that immigration policy will be tightened. And it is probably correct. In his place I would have invited everyone and settled in the abandoned city.
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December 08, 2016, 09:12:55 PM
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Generally speaking, moving to the Philippines is a step in the direction of slavery. Why? Their government is a civil law government. This means that it is formally a government that is a dictator by government.

Mmm no, they actually have elections. They genuinely seem sick of their of their drug problem, they don't have capital punishment, so the president told the police force that he would basically look the other way if they had to kill a drug "pusher" in a shootout. No doubt innocent people are among the 6,000+ killed by police and vigilantes since Duterte took office. There's also the strong probability that police are extorting people by saying they are drug dealers when they really aren't, yet Duterte seems to be anti-police corruption as well. All I know is I'm not a drug dealer and I don't look like one. I'm also not hanging around the slums of Manila.

You should try some drug dealing there. Heard it's THE upcoming market right now!

Lol. Ironically, the president is pro-medical marijuana, so maybe I can open a dispensary. Though probably not.

Like you mention, it costs a lot more in the USA.  I have to stay here and live and work.  Can you donate to me?  I need the money more than you do?

The solution is that you move to a cheaper place within the U.S. so that way you can still donate money to me. Problem solved.

Thanks everybody else for your suggestions. Keep em coming! I genuinely like learning about international life experiences. I really should be more of a world traveler but I am already comfortable with the Philippines.
Who let you in the US? Trump has made clear that immigration policy will be tightened. And it is probably correct. In his place I would have invited everyone and settled in the abandoned city.

Anybody who is fluent in English and understands common law and its usage in the courts, can move to America. He can live and get various jobs all over the place that don't require any Social Security Number. If he is found out, common law will let him beat the system in the courts, and remain in America.

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December 09, 2016, 02:09:15 AM
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It's the same in the UK. I have a friend, who left the UK because of growing costs of living and moved to Australia. Not really a third world country, but he's really happy there. He used to have a business in the UK and couldn't afford anything besides a typical daily life, so if you're thinking of moving to Europe from the US, think twice.
As for the Philippines I also have a friend who lives there and he spends most of his year working abroad in Australia and Germany as a salesman. He said to me once that it's very hard to live and work in his country and people usually live in poverty or work abroad.

Australia has fairly high wages and arguably low cost of living.  You can get a roommate situation for as low as $600 AUD a month and yet make $2,880 a month. 

You speak as if to go to Australia is easy. You tried to live at 40 degrees and 100% humidity? Besides, there are very many poisonous snakes, crocodiles and spiders. In the ocean, sharks and poisonous sea animals, and jellyfish.
And you're speaking like it's easy to live in cold climate. I had a chance to live in a house heated by a coal furnace with temperatures close to -10*C outside and it's no fun either. Wild boars wolves and foxes sneaking by your house at night, you have to spend a lot of money to heat the house, buy warm clothes, good shoes for winter. Somebody from Australia would probably say "fuck that I prefer my spiders and snakes". As for the humidity I'm in Europe and it's 89% outside (just checked).

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December 09, 2016, 02:27:03 AM
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Like you mention, it costs a lot more in the USA.  I have to stay here and live and work.  Can you donate to me?  I need the money more than you do?

The solution is that you move to a cheaper place within the U.S. so that way you can still donate money to me. ....

Okay, I see your point.  But you are moving to a cheaper place for good.

How about if I just try living on your money for just a year?  You'll still have all your money for all the other years.  I'll just do one year on your money, then I'll go back to slaving away at stupid jobs. 

Even if wages are lower and cost of living is lower, I am certain you can see your way clear to help me out.  It's just for one year.

If that's too difficult what about six months?
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December 09, 2016, 03:18:47 AM
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When they finally get some nations on Mars, these will be the 3rd world nations.

Earth = world 1.
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December 09, 2016, 11:43:49 AM
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I doubt that any private individual wishing to sponsor a whole year of your stay in another country. Look for the state program for migration. It is certainly difficult, but there is a chance.
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December 09, 2016, 07:07:43 PM
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I'm very happy that i don't live in the "vaccinated" US.
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December 11, 2016, 08:39:01 PM
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How about if I just try living on your money for just a year?  You'll still have all your money for all the other years.  I'll just do one year on your money, then I'll go back to slaving away at stupid jobs

Even if wages are lower and cost of living is lower, I am certain you can see your way clear to help me out.  It's just for one year.

If that's too difficult what about six months?

LOL. You wouldn't want to live on my money for a year. It's barely a living.

Yeah see that's the thing, I don't think anybody should have to slave away at a stupid job. I feel like we've just been conditioned to accept the life of a worker bee like it's not a problem. Like its natural to bathe in phosphorescent light for 8 hours a day, sitting on your butt, eating fast food, becoming greasy and unhealthy in order to further enrich those who already have a lot of money.

It's not easy to break free of the modern cycle. It's been embarrassing, costly and kind of sad that I'm going to leave all my friends and family behind. But where I live the cost of living is particularly expensive so it makes the decision all the easier. I still have to part with a lot of CDs and DVDs from a lifelong collection. Probably the hardest part.

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December 11, 2016, 10:55:53 PM
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How about if I just try living on your money for just a year?  You'll still have all your money for all the other years.  I'll just do one year on your money, then I'll go back to slaving away at stupid jobs

Even if wages are lower and cost of living is lower, I am certain you can see your way clear to help me out.  It's just for one year.

If that's too difficult what about six months?

LOL. You wouldn't want to live on my money for a year. It's barely a living.

Yeah see that's the thing, I don't think anybody should have to slave away at a stupid job. I feel like we've just been conditioned to accept the life of a worker bee like it's not a problem. Like its natural to bathe in phosphorescent light for 8 hours a day, sitting on your butt, eating fast food, becoming greasy and unhealthy in order to further enrich those who already have a lot of money.

It's not easy to break free of the modern cycle. It's been embarrassing, costly and kind of sad that I'm going to leave all my friends and family behind. But where I live the cost of living is particularly expensive so it makes the decision all the easier. I still have to part with a lot of CDs and DVDs from a lifelong collection. Probably the hardest part.

Sure, but look .... I could take a year of your money and spend it in a week, living high, man!  It'd be like a choice.  Then I'd go  bak to the stupid job.  Think of how good you would feel knowing how much fun I had with your money. 

Anyway, like, what?  Your really going to leave all the CDs and DVDs?  Really?
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December 12, 2016, 09:05:57 PM
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I feel you man, I'm in the UK at the moment, but the monumental fuck up that is Brexit and the Conservatives in power with none other than some fucking cyborg we call Theresa May in charge, has really made me question my place in this country. Sure, we are relatively "safe" here, but the rent/living expenses in the UK are ridiculous, and I'm not a fan of the over-regulation we have in the UK. eg, "Don't walk on the grass, don't drink in the street, no camping here!, if you protest you're now on our "anti-government" list etc.

I'm seriously thinking about moving to SE Asia to teach English or get a job related to my field in music production/DJing or printing. Probably Vietnam, seems like a cool place with nice, cheap food! Either that or maybe somewhere in South America, Peru/Ecuador/Colombia maybe.

Yeah, I get that these sort of countries can be dangerous, and are definitely corrupt. But what's better, corruption at the top of the pyramid (like we have in the UK and USA) where no normal person can influence it? or corruption through the whole system (where you can at least bribe a local police officer to get out of trouble). It seems like the corruption of the poorer countries is fairer on the whole population haha!
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December 12, 2016, 11:00:59 PM
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It's not easy to break free of the modern cycle. It's been embarrassing, costly and kind of sad that I'm going to leave all my friends and family behind. But where I live the cost of living is particularly expensive so it makes the decision all the easier. I still have to part with a lot of CDs and DVDs from a lifelong collection. Probably the hardest part.

You don't need to part with the content of those CDs and DVDs, just get a few hard drives/SSDs and copy all the media on to them. You can even get software that will compress your DVDs into much smaller video files, and your music into much smaller FLAC or mp3 files. Windows Media Player or VLC will do the CD-MP3 conversion (and to FLAC I think, which is optimum quality), you can download other software to compress and save your DVDs. All you need is a PC or laptop with a DVD drive (and to download DVD compression software from the Internet).

You could even send your discs to a third party to do all of that for you, but they will charge a hefty premium, easy enough to do it yourself IMO (although depending on the size of your collection it could take a few weeks to convert all the media). In my experience, a full CD takes 5-10 minutes, a DVD more like 1/4 hour to 1 hour.

But the beauty is, when you're done you have your whole music and film collection on hard drives, searchable and available within seconds. It's a worthwhile mission IMO. A compressed DVD film should take up no more than 1 GB, a FLAC music album should take up 3-500MB. That means with a couple of 1TB drives you should be able to get at least 1000 movies and 2000 albums. If you have HD films, or want to save the films uncompressed you'd be looking at a bit more storage, but not a lot more.
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December 12, 2016, 11:02:41 PM
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Good riddance, if that is enough for you to do a runner then run and hope you don't get worse in your next country and that the grass is actually greener on the other side.
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December 12, 2016, 11:25:30 PM
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Good riddance, if that is enough for you to do a runner then run and hope you don't get worse in your next country and that the grass is actually greener on the other side.

"Good riddance" haha you don't even know the guy, no need to disrespect him you fucking dunce. If you've actually travelled to some other countries you'd know that there are some excellent opportunities available for work, quite often with reasonable pay.

Like OP explained, a big problem with many "western"/"developed" countries right now is that rent/houses/living expenses are really expensive compared to wages. Although the wages in underdeveloped countries are generally less, with some good skills and experience you could easily be earning $1-2k a month, and living expenses are a fraction of what they cost in places like the USA and UK. This means you could be getting a better quality of life living somewhere like SE Asia than in the USA, and be saving money to buy a house or similar in the future.
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December 12, 2016, 11:29:35 PM
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Good riddance, if that is enough for you to do a runner then run and hope you don't get worse in your next country and that the grass is actually greener on the other side.

"Good riddance" haha you don't even know the guy, no need to disrespect him you fucking dunce. If you've actually travelled to some other countries you'd know that there are some excellent opportunities available for work, quite often with reasonable pay.

Like OP explained, a big problem with many "western"/"developed" countries right now is that rent/houses/living expenses are really expensive compared to wages. Although the wages in underdeveloped countries are generally less, with some good skills and experience you could easily be earning $1-2k a month, and living expenses are a fraction of what they cost in places like the USA and UK. This means you could be getting a better quality of life living somewhere like SE Asia than in the USA, and be saving money to buy a house or similar in the future.

Go cry a river elsewhere you emotional bitch. OOOOooo really expensive to rent, then get a decent job and stop doping all your money away.
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December 12, 2016, 11:49:51 PM
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So Philippines is so great compared to all other places you can travel and live? Why not pick New Zealand, because it is more expensive and not 3rd world country?
I still think that US is not that bad place to live even today, wait a bit what will happen under Trump's presidency.
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December 12, 2016, 11:54:13 PM
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Good riddance, if that is enough for you to do a runner then run and hope you don't get worse in your next country and that the grass is actually greener on the other side.

"Good riddance" haha you don't even know the guy, no need to disrespect him you fucking dunce. If you've actually travelled to some other countries you'd know that there are some excellent opportunities available for work, quite often with reasonable pay.

Like OP explained, a big problem with many "western"/"developed" countries right now is that rent/houses/living expenses are really expensive compared to wages. Although the wages in underdeveloped countries are generally less, with some good skills and experience you could easily be earning $1-2k a month, and living expenses are a fraction of what they cost in places like the USA and UK. This means you could be getting a better quality of life living somewhere like SE Asia than in the USA, and be saving money to buy a house or similar in the future.

Go cry a river elsewhere you emotional bitch. OOOOooo really expensive to rent, then get a decent job and stop doping all your money away.

Haha, yeah right don't even attempt to intelligently discuss the points I bring up, that would be too much effort am I right?

Just chuck some immasculating ad hominem in there, some capital 'O's and an unsubstantiated accusation of drug use, and you're good to go right?

If you can't formulate any valid rebuttals to what either me or the OP are saying, do us both a favour and fuck off.

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December 13, 2016, 12:02:48 AM
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So Philippines is so great compared to all other places you can travel and live? Why not pick New Zealand, because it is more expensive and not 3rd world country?
I still think that US is not that bad place to live even today, wait a bit what will happen under Trump's presidency.

I know someone living/working in NZ atm, they really like it there. Beautiful place, I'm hopefully going to see them out there next year.

However the entry requirements for a NZ visa are very strict, like many of the more "developed" countries of the world eg USA/UK/Canada/Australia/Japan/South Korea (basically all the 5 eyes countries, plus the most developed Asian countries. You basically NEED at least a Batchelors degree to get a visa unless you know someone.

Entry requirements for certain SE asian and South American countries are less strict, eg Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam/Taiwan/Mexico/Peru/Colombia and many more. Plus cost of living is incredibly cheap, and wages can be reasonable if you have certain skills. My plan is to do some english teaching in SE Asia, as it pays quite well and you don't need to know the native language.
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December 13, 2016, 03:22:45 AM
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Panama is an easy country to get into. I have lived here on a tourist visa for 5 years now. for those of you interested: http://expatriate.space/2016/11/09/residency-options-for-panama/
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December 13, 2016, 03:37:22 AM
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So Philippines is so great compared to all other places you can travel and live? Why not pick New Zealand, because it is more expensive and not 3rd world country?
I still think that US is not that bad place to live even today, wait a bit what will happen under Trump's presidency.

I know someone living/working in NZ atm, they really like it there. Beautiful place, I'm hopefully going to see them out there next year.

However the entry requirements for a NZ visa are very strict, like many of the more "developed" countries of the world eg USA/UK/Canada/Australia/Japan/South Korea (basically all the 5 eyes countries, plus the most developed Asian countries. You basically NEED at least a Batchelors degree to get a visa unless you know someone.

Entry requirements for certain SE asian and South American countries are less strict, eg Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam/Taiwan/Mexico/Peru/Colombia and many more. Plus cost of living is incredibly cheap, and wages can be reasonable if you have certain skills. My plan is to do some english teaching in SE Asia, as it pays quite well and you don't need to know the native language.
I'd recommend you learn some before going there. You may not need to know it at work, but you will have to in the street, unless you're planning to go straight home after work and stay there until morning.

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