I have a list of users to DT tag if anyone have time...

[Lauda]

I've put some thought into this, and it seems that there is a possibility of a on-going scheme here. If account trades/sales are frowned upon and warrant negative ratings, then one can dodge that by taking up a loan and using their own account as collateral. Defaulting the loan becomes the equivalent of selling your account (to a farmer). Another reason for which lenders should stop taking accounts as collateral.

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[Milkduds]

Logged on Today and saw negative trust and clicked on the link and here I am. Have contacted Gunthar to make arrangements and let him know what happened,in the mean time I dropped by signature and contacted the mod in charge to let them also know what the issue was.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention and again Gunthar sorry for not dealing with this in a prompt time frame.
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[Gunthar]

I've put some thought into this, and it seems that there is a possibility of a on-going scheme here. If account trades/sales are frowned upon and warrant negative ratings, then one can dodge that by taking up a loan and using their own account as collateral. Defaulting the loan becomes the equivalent of selling your account (to a farmer). Another reason for which lenders should stop taking accounts as collateral.

I quote 100%: this is why i started this path. There are a lot of people (see the list on my lending thread) that do really need a loan and they repay. But there are a lot that are looking at lending section as an alternative to sell their account.

And for this to:

Logged on Today and saw negative trust and clicked on the link and here I am. Have contacted Gunthar to make arrangements and let him know what happened,in the mean time I dropped by signature and contacted the mod in charge to let them also know what the issue was.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention and again Gunthar sorry for not dealing with this in a prompt time frame.
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Thanks for letting us know.
~Gun

[Quickseller]

Vasco**   0.8BTC   Link   Yes   Yes   unknown
** Due to the "Donator" status of this user, Theymos has been informed and he is aware i control this account now.

Did you get a signed message from this guy?

Also, what is the txid for this loan?

[Gunthar]

Vasco**   0.8BTC   Link   Yes   Yes   unknown
** Due to the "Donator" status of this user, Theymos has been informed and he is aware i control this account now.

Did you get a signed message from this guy?

Also, what is the txid for this loan?

No he did proof he wasnt hacked account by PM with some old stuff from BitcoinExchange (that's the real name of that account)

This is the log of the transaction id: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1448684.msg16812886#msg16812886

[Gunthar]

Logged on Today and saw negative trust and clicked on the link and here I am. Have contacted Gunthar to make arrangements and let him know what happened,in the mean time I dropped by signature and contacted the mod in charge to let them also know what the issue was.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention and again Gunthar sorry for not dealing with this in a prompt time frame.
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Will post in the thread on Tuesday once I repay the total amount,just wanted to make sure I have the correct amount including all interest before I send.
Unless you want me to just state that I am intending to repay on that date in the thread,I will just leave it till then.

coughs....it's wednesday!!!...coughs

[eddie13]

I've put some thought into this, and it seems that there is a possibility of a on-going scheme here. If account trades/sales are frowned upon and warrant negative ratings, then one can dodge that by taking up a loan and using their own account as collateral. Defaulting the loan becomes the equivalent of selling your account (to a farmer). Another reason for which lenders should stop taking accounts as collateral.

Or maybe a good reason not to be red tagging legit sold accounts and legit account sellers..

[Gunthar]

I've put some thought into this, and it seems that there is a possibility of a on-going scheme here. If account trades/sales are frowned upon and warrant negative ratings, then one can dodge that by taking up a loan and using their own account as collateral. Defaulting the loan becomes the equivalent of selling your account (to a farmer). Another reason for which lenders should stop taking accounts as collateral.

Or maybe a good reason not to be red tagging legit sold accounts and legit account sellers..

We are not talkign about sold accounts here: those in the list are all scammers that defaulted a loan. FYI: sold accounts are not being tagged with red, but with neutral. The only one i have seen tagging red is Shield.

[Gunthar]

I have another that defaulted a loan from my lending service if any DT is willing to tag, thanks!

Borrower	Defaulted amount	Reference	DT tag	Lender tag	Alts reference
ghost15	0.045BTC	Link	No	Yes	HEPHAISTOS (Reference)

[mexxer-2]

I have another that defaulted a loan from my lending service if any DT is willing to tag, thanks!

Borrower	Defaulted amount	Reference	DT tag	Lender tag	Alts reference
ghost15	0.045BTC	Link	No	Yes	HEPHAISTOS (Reference)

Uh, the reference you included shows a post where he is claiming that he repaid the loan and you are confirming that it is repaid. Wrong post?

[Gunthar]

I have another that defaulted a loan from my lending service if any DT is willing to tag, thanks!

Borrower	Defaulted amount	Reference	DT tag	Lender tag	Alts reference
ghost15	0.045BTC	Link	No	Yes	HEPHAISTOS (Reference)

Uh, the reference you included shows a post where he is claiming that he repaid the loan and you are confirming that it is repaid. Wrong post?

My bad! He took 3 loans from me, this is the last one that has been defaulted. Gave him enough time (over one month) and messaged him and his alt HEPHAISTOS: this is the defaulted one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1448684.msg17287872#msg17287872

THanks!
~Gun

[HEPHAISTOS]

I have another that defaulted a loan from my lending service if any DT is willing to tag, thanks!

Borrower	Defaulted amount	Reference	DT tag	Lender tag	Alts reference
ghost15	0.045BTC	Link	No	Yes	HEPHAISTOS (Reference)

Uh, the reference you included shows a post where he is claiming that he repaid the loan and you are confirming that it is repaid. Wrong post?

My bad! He took 3 loans from me, this is the last one that has been defaulted. Gave him enough time (over one month) and messaged him and his alt HEPHAISTOS: this is the defaulted one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1448684.msg17287872#msg17287872

THanks!
~Gun

I do my best to repay my loans, and I will do it sooner or later because I always did it.

[Gunthar]

I have another that defaulted a loan from my lending service if any DT is willing to tag, thanks!

Borrower	Defaulted amount	Reference	DT tag	Lender tag	Alts reference
ghost15	0.045BTC	Link	No	Yes	HEPHAISTOS (Reference)

Uh, the reference you included shows a post where he is claiming that he repaid the loan and you are confirming that it is repaid. Wrong post?

My bad! He took 3 loans from me, this is the last one that has been defaulted. Gave him enough time (over one month) and messaged him and his alt HEPHAISTOS: this is the defaulted one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1448684.msg17287872#msg17287872

THanks!
~Gun

I do my best to repay my loans, and I will do it sooner or later because I always did it.

Ty looking forward to yoru repayment

[HEPHAISTOS]

Thank you Vod to tag my alt account in red, now I have no reason to pay my loans.

[Gunthar]

Thank you Vod to tag my alt account in red, now I have no reason to pay my loans.

You blaming Vod for a service he is doing to the community tagging someone that defaulted a loan? Why you dont think about how to repay your loan instead? That would surely incentivate Vod to remove his tag....

[HEPHAISTOS]

Thank you Vod to tag my alt account in red, now I have no reason to pay my loans.

You blaming Vod for a service he is doing to the community tagging someone that defaulted a loan? Why you dont think about how to repay your loan instead? That would surely incentivate Vod to remove his tag....

i'm thinking about it, and i'm not blaming Vod .... news coming soon

°^° ghost of Hepahistos °^°

[Milkduds]

Having been involved in this tactic to receive payment I will make a suggestion or two.

Contact the party before requesting them to be flagged,sure this will increase the percentages of successful payments.
The other is not suggest that you are able to get the red trust removed from random members you request to flag said accounts.

This strong arm or ploy cost the signature for this account which would have been able to pay the loan off.
So two red flagged accounts,one in your hands that could cover loan and the other of no use to me now.

I suggest a different tact as this superior stance you are taking over other lenders is really a bad look and divides what should be united group of lenders.
You can not pretend to be better when you are involved in one of the most predatory businesses with a long history of exploitation through out history.

If you could prove that you can remove red flagged trust I would be tempted to pay you but as the situation stands I do not believe you are capable of such a move.
End of the day its how you want to operate,just some feedback and how the other side sees this.

[Gunthar]

some feedback and how the other side sees this.

I do prefer the term "scammer" rather than "other side"

I dont need to contact anyone indeed: you know you have to repay yoru loan Milk and if you talking about HEPAISTOS, god knows how many patience i have had with him.

Nice try tho.
~Gun

[HEPHAISTOS]

Your patience will be paid, I am not a scammer as you say, big countries such as the Greek it finds currently in crisis because of the debts and I am not ashamed to say that at the moment I am in financial crisis and if My intention was not good I would not answer in this thread, it is not because of this shit that man created and become his slave that I would become a shit.

[Vod]

Your patience will be paid, I am not a scammer as you say, big countries such as the Greek it finds currently in crisis because of the debts and I am not ashamed to say that at the moment I am in financial crisis and if My intention was not good I would not answer in this thread, it is not because of this shit that man created and become his slave that I would become a shit.

The red trust is just there to make sure you don't try for another loan.  Repay your debt and I will be happy to remove it.