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March 08, 2017, 03:42:34 AM
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Will we get access to beta version of Black Jack,this is just to help in bug check when we play and let you know our findings


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March 08, 2017, 03:48:50 AM
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Black Jack beta is coming...

It is awesome, please release it asap, and let us try it, I am a blackjack fan and card counter, I personally like your 0% house edge blackjack, to seek future huge profits.
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March 08, 2017, 04:03:02 AM
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I think EDGELESS is nice project with many supporters


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March 08, 2017, 06:41:31 AM
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how many days left for the ICO ?
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March 08, 2017, 06:45:37 AM
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how many days left for the ICO ?

13 days left for the ICO.  For more information, you can read it in the link:  https://edgeless.io/en/crowdsale
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March 08, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
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http://prntscr.com/ehfl9e

I strongly agree that the bot is prohibited, but if that's not part of the beginning of the division of "bounty", then it could lead to the suspicion that it was only a trick you can to reduce the number of existing bonty share.
instead I defend the wearer bot, but make bot also not easy needs knowledge and fees, if from the beginning you explain that prohibited auto share or atuto retweet maybe it would be fair, do not fit many who tweet or share either auto or manual IS LESS FAIR In my opinion.
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March 08, 2017, 11:30:48 AM
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http://prntscr.com/ehfl9e

I strongly agree that the bot is prohibited, but if that's not part of the beginning of the division of "bounty", then it could lead to the suspicion that it was only a trick you can to reduce the number of existing bonty share.
instead I defend the wearer bot, but make bot also not easy needs knowledge and fees, if from the beginning you explain that prohibited auto share or atuto retweet maybe it would be fair, do not fit many who tweet or share either auto or manual IS LESS FAIR In my opinion.


Exactly, this is the post learns from Iconomi anti-spam ones, Iconomi identified 700 cheating accounts, and refused to pay them. Edgeless is to protect the investors.
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March 08, 2017, 11:36:01 AM
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http://prntscr.com/ehfl9e

I strongly agree that the bot is prohibited, but if that's not part of the beginning of the division of "bounty", then it could lead to the suspicion that it was only a trick you can to reduce the number of existing bonty share.
instead I defend the wearer bot, but make bot also not easy needs knowledge and fees, if from the beginning you explain that prohibited auto share or atuto retweet maybe it would be fair, do not fit many who tweet or share either auto or manual IS LESS FAIR In my opinion.


Exactly, this is the post learns from Iconomi anti-spam ones, Iconomi identified 700 cheating accounts, and refused to pay them. Edgeless is to protect the investors.

Good decision by the team ,does it detect fake people with IP address?


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March 08, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
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Black Jack beta is coming...

Good news
next week is coming, Many of people interested to test it. Nice work

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March 08, 2017, 01:22:29 PM
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The latest news is always given to the developer seems that the first signature of this comes maybe I've participated also in here.. goodluck dev
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March 08, 2017, 01:26:48 PM
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The beta launch of blackjack is very soon, and we can see the funding is 55000 ETH, now still only half of milestone 2, seek an opportunity to achieve that amount, tough and arduous challenge.
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March 08, 2017, 01:40:13 PM
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Black Jack beta is coming...

Good news
next week is coming, Many of people interested to test it. Nice work

we hope with this black jack beta release will attrack more investor
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March 08, 2017, 05:44:12 PM
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Black Jack beta is coming...

Good news
next week is coming, Many of people interested to test it. Nice work

we hope with this black jack beta release will attrack more investor

It gives you clear indication that they are sirius and have working prototype to test it

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March 08, 2017, 07:16:26 PM
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For anyone uncertain about whether to invest in Edgeless or not, here's a TLDR version of the crowdsale Wink https://cointldr.com/edgeless-crowdsale-report-05-03-2017

I invested , its the best ico now .
I disagree, peerplays is much better imo. They offer better returns for the investors. See: https://steemit.com/investing/@xwerk/peerplay-blockchain-primary-crowdfund-has-started-today-great-chance-for-investors-and-gamblers-alike
Edgeless keeps too much for themselfes and distributing the rest via a lottery seems very strange to me. This probably means that most of the investors will never see their investment back. If you are into gambling with the odds stacked against you, well then this may be for you. But it is a losing game.

I'm looking at PeerPlays website and white paper and I can't see anything about their team. Team is the most important aspect for me as an investor. I only invest in projects that are transparent about their team and that have team members with a great track record (finished projects, previous businesses, good advisors etc.). So PeerPlays is a "no go" for me.
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March 08, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
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For anyone uncertain about whether to invest in Edgeless or not, here's a TLDR version of the crowdsale Wink https://cointldr.com/edgeless-crowdsale-report-05-03-2017

I invested , its the best ico now .
I disagree, peerplays is much better imo. They offer better returns for the investors. See: https://steemit.com/investing/@xwerk/peerplay-blockchain-primary-crowdfund-has-started-today-great-chance-for-investors-and-gamblers-alike
Edgeless keeps too much for themselfes and distributing the rest via a lottery seems very strange to me. This probably means that most of the investors will never see their investment back. If you are into gambling with the odds stacked against you, well then this may be for you. But it is a losing game.
peerplays was always and is still overvalued (I think marketcap is 20-30 million or even more lol, edge is still under 1 million. this also means 20 times less pay outs to investors compared to edgeless). by the way they are not using smart contracts and ethereum...they are using old tech...they are very slow in dev and did not reach there goals in time....they dont have a great team like  edge with real gambling and smart contract experts....strategy is and was never clear, first they announced normal online games, then gambling, maybe because there is more money but also more competetion lol...there are even more to say but I will stop now.





Investing in ICO these days is a gamble. You never know what will happen. Edgeless so far has raised around $1 million, it could be 5x more after launch and realization of the roadmap or it can become 5x less if dev does not deliver or gets delays.
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March 08, 2017, 08:45:01 PM
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When you will update the spreadsheet with the bounties of the first week? (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dYtzLfT4POk4_FjSJVQGAWp_1xbehz_NOQkLHLEGZaE/edit#gid=0)

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March 09, 2017, 12:09:54 AM
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For anyone uncertain about whether to invest in Edgeless or not, here's a TLDR version of the crowdsale Wink https://cointldr.com/edgeless-crowdsale-report-05-03-2017

I invested , its the best ico now .
I disagree, peerplays is much better imo. They offer better returns for the investors. See: https://steemit.com/investing/@xwerk/peerplay-blockchain-primary-crowdfund-has-started-today-great-chance-for-investors-and-gamblers-alike
Edgeless keeps too much for themselfes and distributing the rest via a lottery seems very strange to me. This probably means that most of the investors will never see their investment back. If you are into gambling with the odds stacked against you, well then this may be for you. But it is a losing game.
peerplays was always and is still overvalued (I think marketcap is 20-30 million or even more lol, edge is still under 1 million. this also means 20 times less pay outs to investors compared to edgeless). by the way they are not using smart contracts and ethereum...they are using old tech...they are very slow in dev and did not reach there goals in time....they dont have a great team like  edge with real gambling and smart contract experts....strategy is and was never clear, first they announced normal online games, then gambling, maybe because there is more money but also more competetion lol...there are even more to say but I will stop now.





Investing in ICO these days is a gamble. You never know what will happen. Edgeless so far has raised around $1 million, it could be 5x more after launch and realization of the roadmap or it can become 5x less if dev does not deliver or gets delays.

Of course, you know not ICO, buy and sell an altcoin or even bitcoin is a gamble, you target to profit, but sometimes you lost the money. But edgeless is different, we can profit from casino profit, IMO it is guaranteed, we need noob blackjack players.  Grin
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March 09, 2017, 06:36:44 AM
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55000 eth, I have contributed 500 eth, so let us witness the miracle, reaching the milestone 2 in last days. Be panic guys, 0% house edge casino is the future!
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March 09, 2017, 06:55:08 AM
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i hope more big giant whale from nowhere join the crowdsale than reach the last milestone
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March 09, 2017, 07:02:36 AM
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Just a question . How can shareholders earn 14,xx % with a zero edge for casino ? Where the profit comes from ?


Casino profits and 0% (0.83% in practise) house edge concept.

There are several ways how Edgeless Casino can be profitable. Edgeless Casino provides games which depend on LUCK+SKILL and Sports Betting.

The first two games provided will be Blackjack and Video Poker. Both games are played with a combination of LUCK and SKILL. That means players make choices and either play well or poorly. To give an example of such a situation:

Blackjack:
House has a 6 card.
The player has 16.
The player wants to collect at least 17 and hits for one more card. - BAD MISTAKE.
The player just made a huge error, because, 12+ against 6 ALWAYS STAYS. (according to Blackjack basic strategy)

An average player does not play ‘the perfect game’ therefore, in the long run the casino makes a profit from his mistakes.

An analogy can be taken from poker. A new player is playing against a Pro. Both have equal probability conditions - 50% vs. 50%. However, the Pro player makes better choices and the new player makes bad decisions, and in the long run, the Pro wins.

Look at this EXTENSIVE RESEARCH  from players’ mistakes in Blackjack - on average they give away an 0.83% edge to the casino. https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

And that's exactly what the casino will earn - 0.83% which is the same as playing dice with an 0.83% house edge

The second stream of profit comes from sports betting. Sports Betting connects bettors against each other, charging vig / juice / rake from each side for their bets. In this area, the casino will earn 4% from all money wagered. An analogy can again be taken from poker. Imagine two players are betting 10$ against each other and the rake is 1%. So, they are actually betting 9.90$ and winner gets 19.80$.

More information on how sports betting is making money: http://www.biasharainsight.com/2016/01/how-do-sport-betting-sites-make-money/

To sum up - the first stream of profits is from games of luck+skill. The second stream of profits is from Edgeless casino with 0% edge games and is a very strong marketing channel for attracting players to Edgeless Casino. Gamblers can enjoy fair betting conditions, and a good percentage of visitors will do Sports Betting which generates 4% returns to the Casino.

The concept has not literally come out of the blue - discussions on zero edge casinos are already occurring in the community.

https://www.bitedge.co/blog/0-house-edge-provably-fair-and-trustless-gambling/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinGambling/comments/36z3wi/which_is_the_lowest_house_edge_fair_bitcoin_casino/


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