⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️ Edgeless - World‘s First Ethereum Based Crypto Casino ⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️

[szachta]

Stake from facebook is count but no from twitter,look at this dev.

[Edgeless]

   WoW Project Edgeless Casino another gaming token What is the difference and what are the advantages of your tokens, and tokens vDice?
Subscribe to you in the tweeter and facebook will follow developments! 

Yes

Ethereum Smart Contracts can be a total game changer for a whole gambling industry, therefore so many projects are raising in this area. Seeing this potential from our first project: etherslots.win we decided to create more powerful.

A short comparison table of Edgeless and vDice.

vDice - fully transparent dice

it's a first ethereum dice. Concept is pretty much similar to any dice casino, however it's using Ethereum Smart Contracts which makes a game fully transparent - that's a game changer. However ethereum blockchain does not have required transaction speeds for gambling dapp - it takes 1 - 2 minutes for vDice to generate a random number and decide a winner. From user experience, its really bad (hopefully ethereum blockchain will improve and transactions are going to be faster) and for now there is no way to scale a business, compete with bitcoin/ fiat casinos. It also offers a profit sharing model which is nice but might lead to legal troubles in the future. Also token has a hard time being accepted to large exchanges. Exchanges do not want to take profit sharing tokens, it's too risky for them from legal point of view.

Edgeless - next generation gambling experience

Edgeless will be on Ethereum Blockchain which guarantees a transparency.

Edgeless offers luck + skill games (Black Jack, Lunar Poker) with a 0% house edge. This is a totally new gambling concept, it's like next generation gambling experience. Idea is not new, people have been discussing it for years. However it was not possible to implement it on fiat running casino - operational costs are too high. Thank's to blockchain, crypto operational costs extremely low in comparison to fiat online casino - it makes possible to run a 0% house edge casino (0% edge luck+skill games profitability is similar to 0.83% edge pure luck game: https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

Also 0% house edge games is a perfect marketing to attract masses of gamblers: https://medium.com/edgeless/casino-with-0-house-edge-perfect-marketing-strategy-7c1f2d49beb0#.9ufrf25j8

Edgeless is using different transparency mechanism (people will not need to wait 2 minutes) which makes casino way much faster and more user-friendly. Therefore we can compete with fiat casinos. More info: https://medium.com/edgeless/ethereum-blockchain-casinos-are-extremely-slow-solution-aaa2e3e95208#.c38fktdxt

Edgeless DOES NOT offer profit sharing token. We are more safe from legal side and our token has way much higher chance to appear on large exchanges.

Our token is backed by a monthly lottery game where EDG tokens can be used win a share (40%) of casino's profit.

I think vDice had a first mover advantage, and while we are not first on Ethereum, we had to learn from vDice mistakes and improve all other areas of our business model. We are aiming to compete with fiat online casinos - because that's where real casino market is!

So, what do you think about our concept?

       Thank you very much for the detailed answer and comparisons and the benefits of your game! For yet now I can not say what I think of you! I need more time to study the white paper!

Thank you for your interest If you have some more detailed questions, feel free to join our slack community group. We will answer instantly: https://edgelessethcasino.signup.team/

[MEDVEDja2]

@Edgeless, 1) I need to register on your website for bounty campaign? Or I can log in via Twitter and sign up later?
2) This will be standard ERC20 token? 3) Through what time after finishing ICO token will be available to use and can be added to exchange?

[Edgeless]

@Edgeless, 1) I need to register on your website for bounty campaign? Or I can log in via Twitter and sign up later?
2) This will be standard ERC20 token? 3) Through what time after finishing ICO token will be available to use and can be added to exchange?

1) No, you do not need to register on our website for bounty program. To participate just follow instructions here: https://edgeless.io/bounty/ and login with your facebook or twitter account. If you want to participate in social media bounty. If you want to participate in signature bounty program, social media account login is not needed.

2) Yes, this is standard ERC20 token

3) After ICO, in a period of 1 week: token will be traded on liqui and token market exchange. However more official information from exchanges will be posted next week. Also some large exchanges showed interest in our token too

[targetmlrd]

Russian translation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786693.0

[sri.bima]

Stake from facebook is count but no from twitter,look at this dev.

It seems has been updated, maybe it weekly (twitter reward), Please check again/reload the page
But facebook is work fine

[Kaznachej123]

   WoW Project Edgeless Casino another gaming token What is the difference and what are the advantages of your tokens, and tokens vDice?
Subscribe to you in the tweeter and facebook will follow developments! 

Yes

Ethereum Smart Contracts can be a total game changer for a whole gambling industry, therefore so many projects are raising in this area. Seeing this potential from our first project: etherslots.win we decided to create more powerful.

A short comparison table of Edgeless and vDice.

vDice - fully transparent dice

it's a first ethereum dice. Concept is pretty much similar to any dice casino, however it's using Ethereum Smart Contracts which makes a game fully transparent - that's a game changer. However ethereum blockchain does not have required transaction speeds for gambling dapp - it takes 1 - 2 minutes for vDice to generate a random number and decide a winner. From user experience, its really bad (hopefully ethereum blockchain will improve and transactions are going to be faster) and for now there is no way to scale a business, compete with bitcoin/ fiat casinos. It also offers a profit sharing model which is nice but might lead to legal troubles in the future. Also token has a hard time being accepted to large exchanges. Exchanges do not want to take profit sharing tokens, it's too risky for them from legal point of view.

Edgeless - next generation gambling experience

Edgeless will be on Ethereum Blockchain which guarantees a transparency.

Edgeless offers luck + skill games (Black Jack, Lunar Poker) with a 0% house edge. This is a totally new gambling concept, it's like next generation gambling experience. Idea is not new, people have been discussing it for years. However it was not possible to implement it on fiat running casino - operational costs are too high. Thank's to blockchain, crypto operational costs extremely low in comparison to fiat online casino - it makes possible to run a 0% house edge casino (0% edge luck+skill games profitability is similar to 0.83% edge pure luck game: https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

Also 0% house edge games is a perfect marketing to attract masses of gamblers: https://medium.com/edgeless/casino-with-0-house-edge-perfect-marketing-strategy-7c1f2d49beb0#.9ufrf25j8

Edgeless is using different transparency mechanism (people will not need to wait 2 minutes) which makes casino way much faster and more user-friendly. Therefore we can compete with fiat casinos. More info: https://medium.com/edgeless/ethereum-blockchain-casinos-are-extremely-slow-solution-aaa2e3e95208#.c38fktdxt

Edgeless DOES NOT offer profit sharing token. We are more safe from legal side and our token has way much higher chance to appear on large exchanges.

Our token is backed by a monthly lottery game where EDG tokens can be used win a share (40%) of casino's profit.

I think vDice had a first mover advantage, and while we are not first on Ethereum, we had to learn from vDice mistakes and improve all other areas of our business model. We are aiming to compete with fiat online casinos - because that's where real casino market is!

So, what do you think about our concept?

       Thank you very much for the detailed answer and comparisons and the benefits of your game! For yet now I can not say what I think of you! I need more time to study the white paper!

Thank you for your interest If you have some more detailed questions, feel free to join our slack community group. We will answer instantly: https://edgelessethcasino.signup.team/

   Also test today game http://etherslots.win ... created a new wallet, started the 1 ETH began to SPIN the drum, tried to play 10-15 times the rate of 0.1 or 0.2 After you click SPIN to spin the drum about 2 minutes and and nothing happens, and I did not win or lose to write off the balance of about 0,1ETH assume that transaction

[fantoos]

I was interested to read about 0 % house edge at the moment because without casino may be run but what benefit will I get as investor. Where the all revenue of profit will come in case casino doesn't charge any fee for its services through platform to perform gambling activities. any answer would be great though I also am reading the whole opening page slowly slowly to catch the idea.

[grifinmch]

Joined twitter campaign and facebook campaign dev
thank you

[kendedes]

reserve indonesian translation and whitepaper sir

[Edgeless]

   WoW Project Edgeless Casino another gaming token What is the difference and what are the advantages of your tokens, and tokens vDice?
Subscribe to you in the tweeter and facebook will follow developments! 

Yes

Ethereum Smart Contracts can be a total game changer for a whole gambling industry, therefore so many projects are raising in this area. Seeing this potential from our first project: etherslots.win we decided to create more powerful.

A short comparison table of Edgeless and vDice.

vDice - fully transparent dice

it's a first ethereum dice. Concept is pretty much similar to any dice casino, however it's using Ethereum Smart Contracts which makes a game fully transparent - that's a game changer. However ethereum blockchain does not have required transaction speeds for gambling dapp - it takes 1 - 2 minutes for vDice to generate a random number and decide a winner. From user experience, its really bad (hopefully ethereum blockchain will improve and transactions are going to be faster) and for now there is no way to scale a business, compete with bitcoin/ fiat casinos. It also offers a profit sharing model which is nice but might lead to legal troubles in the future. Also token has a hard time being accepted to large exchanges. Exchanges do not want to take profit sharing tokens, it's too risky for them from legal point of view.

Edgeless - next generation gambling experience

Edgeless will be on Ethereum Blockchain which guarantees a transparency.

Edgeless offers luck + skill games (Black Jack, Lunar Poker) with a 0% house edge. This is a totally new gambling concept, it's like next generation gambling experience. Idea is not new, people have been discussing it for years. However it was not possible to implement it on fiat running casino - operational costs are too high. Thank's to blockchain, crypto operational costs extremely low in comparison to fiat online casino - it makes possible to run a 0% house edge casino (0% edge luck+skill games profitability is similar to 0.83% edge pure luck game: https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

Also 0% house edge games is a perfect marketing to attract masses of gamblers: https://medium.com/edgeless/casino-with-0-house-edge-perfect-marketing-strategy-7c1f2d49beb0#.9ufrf25j8

Edgeless is using different transparency mechanism (people will not need to wait 2 minutes) which makes casino way much faster and more user-friendly. Therefore we can compete with fiat casinos. More info: https://medium.com/edgeless/ethereum-blockchain-casinos-are-extremely-slow-solution-aaa2e3e95208#.c38fktdxt

Edgeless DOES NOT offer profit sharing token. We are more safe from legal side and our token has way much higher chance to appear on large exchanges.

Our token is backed by a monthly lottery game where EDG tokens can be used win a share (40%) of casino's profit.

I think vDice had a first mover advantage, and while we are not first on Ethereum, we had to learn from vDice mistakes and improve all other areas of our business model. We are aiming to compete with fiat online casinos - because that's where real casino market is!

So, what do you think about our concept?

       Thank you very much for the detailed answer and comparisons and the benefits of your game! For yet now I can not say what I think of you! I need more time to study the white paper!

Thank you for your interest If you have some more detailed questions, feel free to join our slack community group. We will answer instantly: https://edgelessethcasino.signup.team/

   Also test today game http://etherslots.win ... created a new wallet, started the 1 ETH began to SPIN the drum, tried to play 10-15 times the rate of 0.1 or 0.2 After you click SPIN to spin the drum about 2 minutes and and nothing happens, and I did not win or lose to write off the balance of about 0,1ETH assume that transaction

That's why we are creating Edgeless Casino - casino which can generate a random number FAST and have a proper gambling experience.
Reason why our slots are spinning for 2 minutes, it's because it uses same method as all Ethereum casinos. Random generation through oraclize. It requires 4 requests to the blockchain for random number generation. And that's why our slots, vDice or any other Ethereum casino is extremely slow.

Our new model will use blockchain only 2 times and non of them are going to be related to random number generation. However these requests will validate whether it's a real random number or not.

A short summary: it will take 2 hashed seeds. One from player, one from casino and smart contract will bend into a number which will be used for randomness generation. Right now all bitcoin casinos are using a same method, but they can easily cheat. Because they can provide their seed as 2nd entity and know player's seed before hand (that's the method 999dice.com is using to cheat against own players). In our model, casino will always provide own seed 1st and process will be guided using ethereum smart contracts. That's why casino cannot cheat without being spotted on the blockchain.

Here we have detailed explanation how Edgeless random generation will work:

https://medium.com/edgeless/finally-we-will-have-fully-transparent-casino-in-2017-7ef1ecd845a#.hveoaugq2
https://medium.com/edgeless/ethereum-blockchain-casinos-are-extremely-slow-solution-aaa2e3e95208#.47hdjvmdy

I was interested to read about 0 % house edge at the moment because without casino may be run but what benefit will I get as investor. Where the all revenue of profit will come in case casino doesn't charge any fee for its services through platform to perform gambling activities. any answer would be great though I also am reading the whole opening page slowly to catch the idea.

catch is:

Our games are not pure luck games. We will offer games of luck + skill such as Black Jack or Lunar Poker. That means, casino makes profit from imperfect play of the player. On average players make mistakes for 0.83%. So 0% house edge luck + skill games is equivalent to 0.83% pure luck game such as roulette. Data behind Black Jack: https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

Concept is not new. People have been talking about 0% already for a while, however it's extremely hard to implement on fiat currency casinos - due to high operation costs. Thank's to blockchain crytocurrency - casino operational costs are extremely reduced and it becomes possible to create a casino which offers 0% house edge and has absolute transparancy.

Detailed explanation how luck + skill games work: https://medium.com/edgeless/0-house-edge-blackjack-and-0-house-roulette-whats-a-difference-in-casino-profitability-c8d732142433#.7xz8fjec5

So what do you think about this concept?

[hanifhadzar]

intresting with that guy '' Paolo Rebuffo ''
i found many articles about him http://www.unicoffee.it/economia/blockchain-e-bitcoin-intervista-a-funnyking/
but i dont know why funnyking ?

waiting rebuffo talking about edgeless , but im not much can found more profile link. only linkedin ?

[SimpeleSimpele]

how i can buy  EDGELESS in ico selling
this thread not explain about buy ico selling, without addres and website to register join ico selling

[Edgeless]

Stake from facebook is count but no from twitter,look at this dev.

Thank you, Twitter Bounty Counter now is working!

intresting with that guy '' Paolo Rebuffo ''
i found many articles about him http://www.unicoffee.it/economia/blockchain-e-bitcoin-intervista-a-funnyking/
but i dont know why funnyking ?

waiting rebuffo talking about edgeless , but im not much can found more profile link. only linkedin ?

Name meaning "Paolo Rebuffo" is "Funny King"

how i can buy  EDGELESS in ico selling
this thread not explain about buy ico selling, without addres and website to register join ico selling

No, you will not need to register before buying EDG tokens. You can find a detailed explanation here: https://edgeless.io/crowdsale

Upcoming week we will publish more information: detailed step by step investment tutorial, detailed smart contract break downs and many more.

[Machina_US]

hello i'm interested to do the indonesian translation
about my previous work here :

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1658298.0
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786072.0

[ged00u]

I still not get it. Does it mean that if we connect our Ethereum address to the Edgeless, we will able to earn some EDGE for ourselves, right? Or we have to buy the coin by Ethereum ( like what byteball has done with Bitcoin)?
Please explain them to me.
Thanks in advance

[$crypto$]

The Crowdsale price for EDG token: 1000 EDG = 1 ETH hhmmm 

[devone]

Will the tokens be traded on the stock exchange?

[Fassa Sissona]

intresting with that guy '' Paolo Rebuffo ''
i found many articles about him http://www.unicoffee.it/economia/blockchain-e-bitcoin-intervista-a-funnyking/
but i dont know why funnyking ?

waiting rebuffo talking about edgeless , but im not much can found more profile link. only linkedin ?

Hi hanifhadzar,

Paolo Rebuffo is an Italian guy who now lives in Switzerland, he is quite famous here, he created the financial and polical blog most read in Italy (www.rischiocalcolato.it).

He is a fellow with a good audience here, I'm happy of an endorsment by him on the project!

Funny King is the literaly transation of his surname, in Italian Rebuffo is made by two words joined together (Re = king and buffo = funny), this is the reason of his nickname!!!

Fassa.

[Edgeless]

I still not get it. Does it mean that if we connect our Ethereum address to the Edgeless, we will able to earn some EDGE for ourselves, right? Or we have to buy the coin by Ethereum ( like what byteball has done with Bitcoin)?
Please explain them to me.
Thanks in advance

This is a crowdsale guided by Ethereum Smart Contract. It will start in 16 days. For your ETH you can purchase EDG tokens. EDG token value is backed by Edgeless Casino. More profit casino will make, more value token will have. More info on a crowdsale you can find: https://edgeless.io/

The Crowdsale price for EDG token: 1000 EDG = 1 ETH hhmmm 

Yes, however during a first week EDG price will be traded with a slight bonus.

Crowdsale start February 28th, 2017, 3PM GMT
Power hour (28th February 2017, 3:00 pm GMT - 28th February 2017, 4:00 pm GMT)1ETH = 1200 EDG

1 week (28th February 2017, 4pm GMT - 7th March 2017, 4pm GMT):1ETH = 1100 EDG
2 week (7th March 2017, 4pm GMT - 14th March 2017, 4pm GMT ):1ETH = 1050 EDG
3 week (14th March 2017, 4pm GMT - 21th March 2017, 4pm GMT):1ETH = 1000 EDG

Will the tokens be traded on the stock exchange?

Yes, it will be. More information on exchanges will be announced upcoming week.