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[yahoo62278]

Not that i need to justify my trust to this user but i do want to prove a point or 2 with this thread. User tbearhere was in the byteball campaign for a few weeks. He failed to qualify for any of the weeks of participation in this campaign. That wouldve been around 12/13 when i did the post counts. 5 days later this guy decides to give me a little color in my profile.(im ok with it and im not posting this to cry)



Now, i know trust isnt moderated and im not asking anyone to remove this. I just want to show this user and you the community hes a vindictive piece of work and you should avoid him if trading or adding him to a sig campaign.

Upon seeing this feedback i went back over the spreadsheet to see what notes i had on the guy and find the reason he may have tagged me. Mistakes happen im human, so i decided to have a look. Heres the notes i had for him.



Now, the rules for that campaign state a user needs 30 qualifying posts in the week to qualify for payment. Obv he had 26 posts falling short of the goal. If you take a look at the quality that week(dec 6th-12th) youll see









I could go on but you get the point. This is another 5-6 posts of his 26 he would not have gotten credit for. Also if youll notice most if not all of these comments were in the same damn thread. This is the same for the previous weeks he was in campaign as well.

Apparently he feels like he is owed pay for that week i guess. All im saying is this is not constructive posting and this will not get you paid. If you dont do as this guy wants he obv gets all righteous and tags ya so id steer clear of the guy if you have any sense. (by steer clear i dont mean be afraid. just dont do business with him or have him in your campaigns)

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[Avirunes]

Just checked the signature campaign thread and found this:-

- Constructive posts only 100 characters or more and on topic.

Posts in pic were mostly unconstructive and was also out of character limit.


Anyway he deserves that. I also won't allow such user in my campaign who doesn't reads up the rule clearly and later on demands campaign manager for payout to be processed to him later on.

[SFR10]

Nothing from your side is wrong but him on the other hand (failure to read the rules and follow them) seems to understand things completely they way he only wants. Regardless of those posts (which were awful), even if he lacked a single posts, he doesn't deserve to receive a single cent (rules are rules and all involved parties should follow it). Back when I used to manage campaigns, there were a lot of users that lacked a single posts to receive payments for those periods but even though I felt sorry for them, I had no choice to deny them and what you've done in this case is completely correct and based on the campaign rules itself.

Not sure why a lot of "Legendary" members don't follow, read and understand rules and it's very annoying (given that they've been here the longest).

Update:

People should either only selectively get 'promoted' to such a rank or selectively get demoted based on their actions/knowledge.

I fully support that (in case it gets implemented somehow).

[Lauda]

Just ignore him/her. It's just another random spammer that is unable to read, understand and follow the campaign rules.

Back when I used to manage campaigns, there were a lot of users that lacked a single posts to receive payments for those periods but even though I felt sorry for them, I had no choice to deny them and what you've done in this case is completely correct and based on the campaign rules itself.

That's the only correct way handle something like that. Rules are rules, and should be bent by no one and for no one.

Not sure why a lot of "Legendary" members don't follow, read and understand rules and it's very annoying (given that they've been here the longest).

This is why an activity based system is misleading and wrong. People should either only selectively get 'promoted' to such a rank or selectively get demoted based on their actions/knowledge.

[jamalaezaz]

Just ignore him/her. It's just another random spammer that is unable to read, understand and follow the campaign rules.

Back when I used to manage campaigns, there were a lot of users that lacked a single posts to receive payments for those periods but even though I felt sorry for them, I had no choice to deny them and what you've done in this case is completely correct and based on the campaign rules itself.

That's the only correct way handle something like that. Rules are rules, and should be bent by no one and for no one.

Not sure why a lot of "Legendary" members don't follow, read and understand rules and it's very annoying (given that they've been here the longest).

This is why an activity based system is misleading and wrong. People should either only selectively get 'promoted' to such a rank or selectively get demoted based on their actions/knowledge.

And a bought/sold high ranked account should suddenly turn into newbie. Because it actually become newbie. I'm pretty much sure that is a bought account.

[jamyr]

@yahoo,

You're the best campaign manager here.
You follow your own rules so people working under you should do the same.

@Lauda

Demoting feature would be great especially for accounts that goes inactive for more than a year.

I don't know if my opinion weighs lighter than a sr. Member but I just wanted to tell that both of you are doing excellent. You guys deserve a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

[ImHash]

Don't forget about me yahoo62278, I know that I said I wont bother you anymore about my negative feed back via PM though, but come on man please delete it because obviously people trying to take advantage over me only because of red trust and seems not only it's not helping anyone to not get scammed(considering red trust should be used to tag scammers and cases like mine honestly should be posted as neutral, because not accepting my manager's decision shouldn't take me as hostage). but it is helping others to abuse me.

Me not making thread about it shouldn't make your DT responsibilities any less valuable.
I am asking you please change your feed back to neutral if you still want people to know about it.

EDIT: after posting this amazingly yahoo acted just in time so that I could slap a real abuser in the face.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674842.msg17248997#msg17248997

Thanks man/woman for your understanding.

[Lauda]

Demoting feature would be great especially for accounts that goes inactive for more than a year.

I'll talk to the admin to see what they think about this. However, this discussion should not be continued in this thread.

EDIT: after posting this amazingly yahoo acted just in time so that I could slap a real abuser in the face.

It's not abuse FYI. If he doesn't trust you, based on your actions then the rating is valid (it may only be improperly written). The system is a (centralized) web-of-trust. Let's not discuss your case in a thread regarding a completely different user.

And a bought/sold high ranked account should suddenly turn into newbie. Because it actually become newbie. I'm pretty much sure that is a bought account.

It wouldn't surprise me if they were part of a ring of farmers or something.

[tbearhere]

He is a good guy and reads the rules properly. yahoo is a scammer falsifying his records. Here is proof.

https://i.imgur.com/0ApaHOT.png

[Lauda]

He is a good guy and reads the rules properly. yahoo is a scammer falsifying his records. Here is proof.

1) Your imagine insertion is broken.
2) This is not proof of anything.
3) Your rating is useless, and not visible by default since you are not in default trust depth 1 or 2.
4) You don't seem to understand the trust system here.

[tbearhere]

@yahoo62278
Need I get an international lawyer ? To solve this false accusations?

[tbearhere]

He is a good guy and reads the rules properly. yahoo is a scammer falsifying his records. Here is proof.

1) Your imagine insertion is broken.
2) This is not proof of anything.
3) Your rating is useless, and not visible by default since you are not in default trust depth 1 or 2.
4) You don't seem to understand the trust system here.

The image is broken because it has a long don't trust yahoo62278.

[tbearhere]

@yahoo62278
Need I get an international lawyer ? To solve this false accusations?

Looks like it. I took the no trust off...He will be contacting you.

[jamalaezaz]

He is a good guy and reads the rules properly. yahoo is a scammer falsifying his records. Here is proof.

1) Your imagine insertion is broken.
2) This is not proof of anything.
3) Your rating is useless, and not visible by default since you are not in default trust depth 1 or 2.
4) You don't seem to understand the trust system here.

5) result is: you are a newbie here and have zer information about bitcointalk forum.

6) Moral: Surf the forum properly first. Before joining any campaign (actually before buying account)

@yahoo62278
Need I get an international lawyer ? To solve this false accusations?

Looks like it. I took the no trust off...He will be contacting you.

Are you reply/talking with your own self?  
Ur first reply also seems like you are vouching your own self.

[tbearhere]

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« Sent to: tbearhere on: December 19, 2016, 10:49:43 PM »
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You left me worthless trust for no reason. You werent paid because you didnt qualify. So if you wanna play the neg trust game i can play too
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« Sent to: tbearhere on: December 20, 2016, 05:30:33 AM »
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you were paid 2 of the 3 weeks which is why i dont understand your feedback at all. You werent paid for week 3 becuase you didnt qualify. So tell me exactly how i dont pay?

Your feedback is false, thats what i see. Again your feedback means shit cause everyone here knows im not fucking you or ripping you off. Youre just being a prick and its gonna get you nowhere. Enjoy kid
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« Sent to: tbearhere on: December 20, 2016, 05:40:51 AM »
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LOL the transaction is your false feedback. Show me where i screwed you?HuhHuh?? You cant.



According to this chart you did 26 posts the final week. Thats 4 short of the 30 needed to qualify for payment. Theres reason 1 you werent paid for that week. Reason 2 is of that 26 posts at least 5 were rejected if not 10. Even if you had gotten 30 posts you wouldnt have been paid as the quality was shit.

Im gonna get the community view on this for you so you can get some more red paint
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User   Date   Risked BTC amount   Reference   Comments
monbux 259: -0 / +26   2014-10-08   1.00000000      used him as escrow for sig campaign. very easy to work with and prompt services
dabbs -2: -1 / +0   2015-03-30   0.08000000   Reference   guy doesnt pay when tasks are completed
racsas -2: -1 / +0   2015-03-31   0.02500000   Reference   gave him a loan mid february and he has since disappeared. will remove if he comes back n pays loan with interest
BTCBLOGGER -64: -6 / +0   2015-05-21   0.00000000   Reference   promoting a ponzi
eddiegarero -4: -2 / +0   2015-06-09   0.00000000   Reference   another useless cloudmining scammer. be aware
audriusss -8: -3 / +0   2015-08-05   0.00000000      trying to grab users for a paypal scam. be careful of this guy
asmal -16: -4 / +0   2015-08-09   0.00000000   Reference   posting malware/virus links
Sweminer777 -32: -5 / +0   2015-09-18   0.00000000   Reference   selling trust illegal do not deal with this user
papajim -2: -1 / +0   2015-11-09   0.00000000   Reference   trying to scam user for .6 selling domains
8675941 -4: -2 / +0   2015-11-13   0.00000000   Reference   Making false claims. will remove if he can prove his claims of fixed tennis games
magic max -1024: -10 / +0   2015-11-15   0.00000000   Reference   newbie trying to provide escrow and providing fake vouches in his thread. DO NOT TRUST
Glorantq -4: -2 / +0   2015-11-26   0.00000000   Reference   Offering to pay to click referral never paid. Will remove of paid
Gabriel25569 -2: -1 / +0   2015-12-18   0.00000000   Reference   asking how to create ponzi be careful
armour -16: -4 / +0   2015-12-19   0.00000000   Reference   Very possible he scammed 1.2btc waiting to see how the situation turns out before I remove
CoreTrust -8: -3 / +0   2015-12-21   0.00000000   Reference   Self admitted scammer
btc-mike 30: -0 / +3   2015-12-24   0.35000000      Sold me paypal for btc. fast quick trade
kydranel -8: -3 / +0   2015-12-28   0.00000000   Reference   scammed 35$ skrill from a user. use caution and an escrow when dealing with this guy
errorcoin22 -2: -1 / +0   2015-12-28   0.00000000   Reference   guy is just a pussy troll hiding behind an alt. not a scammer but a terrible person. Avoid the moron
zazarb 44: -0 / +5   2016-01-10   0.50000000   Reference   sent me paypal for my btc. I sent 1st. quick n easy
sardasa 18: -0 / +2   2016-01-20   0.13300000      Bought his btc with my paypal. Fast n smooth trade
worhiper_-_ -2: -1 / +0   2016-01-25   0.00000000   Reference   this guy posts false accusations and is now lifetime banned forany campaign i manage
iTeachYouLearn -16: -4 / +0   2016-02-02   0.00250000   Reference   Stolen account. I provided this user a loan and was never repaid. I hadnt logged into acct since taking control and i look in seclog and see user requested pw change via email
traveller159 -2: -1 / +0   2016-02-08   0.00000000   Reference   promoting a ponzi doubler
yellowcat1771 -8: -3 / +0   2016-02-11   0.00000000   Reference   Hosted a fake giveaway. Trying to promote his site. Deal with caution
essaouira82 -8: -3 / +0   2016-02-25   0.00000000   Reference   reversed paypal trade
sardasa 18: -0 / +2   2016-02-26   1.00000000      sold him 1btc for paypal i went 1st
skeletonbit -8: -3 / +0   2016-04-21   0.00000000   Reference   open scam accusation against this user. refusing to pay his workers
nakedbitcoins -8: -3 / +0   2016-05-03   0.17000000   Reference   Not paying signature campaign over 30 days late
brazilcoins -8: -3 / +0   2016-06-02   0.00000000   Reference   Offered to trade with user and he slanders my name. Terrible pr
Arrakeen -2: -1 / +0   2016-06-23   0.00000000   Reference   offering escrow services and possible bought acct
KingofSwing -4: -2 / +0   2016-06-23   0.00500000   Reference   selling method to earn btc that does not work. highly advise trading with user
bapparabi -2: -1 / +0   2016-07-01   0.00000000   Reference   Sig spammer. Will advise anyone whos adding him to their campaign to think twice
pearl11 -2: -1 / +0   2016-07-10   0.00000000   Reference   Sig spammer
jayce 11: -0 / +2   2016-07-29   0.15000000   Reference   Created sig designs for me in 24 hours
Mongwapogi -4: -2 / +0   2016-08-03   0.00150000   Reference   Tried cheating a twitter campaign
saiha -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-04   0.00150000   Reference   tried to cheat a twitter campaign
s1ng -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-08   0.00150000   Reference   Tried cheating a twitter campaign. Missed 2nd attempt but caught his 3rd
LukaHR -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-12   0.00150000   Reference   Tried cheating a twitter campaign. Claiming more then once
PhilPrime -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-27   0.04000000   Reference   Cheating a sig campaign by using multiple account.
Palodar -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-27   0.04000000   Reference   Cheating sig campaign using multiple accts
Omegasun -4: -2 / +0   2016-08-28   0.30000000   Reference   Cheated xaurum sig campaign with this acct and alt philprime
htccoindev -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-28   0.00000000   Reference   trying to scam users with htc coins. Showing pic which could be faked n wanting users to send large amounts of btc 1st
Xubu -2: -1 / +0   2016-08-28   0.00000000   Reference   trying to buy fake trust
CardShark659 4: -0 / +1   2016-08-29   0.00000000      Know this user from another forum hes a mod at pokerowned.com good guy but poker degen
neo666 4: -0 / +1   2016-08-30   0.00000000      mistakenly sent this user some xaur and he returned it
CrackedLogic 0: -0 / +0   2016-09-02   0.00000000   Reference   Account sold.
Baryom 3: -0 / +1   2016-09-16   0.00000000   Reference   I manage his signature campaign for bitsler website. One of a very few campaigns i didnt have use escrow for user payments. Has always paid participants weekly within a few hours of me submitting payment sheet
gilang -2: -1 / +0   2016-09-28   0.00040000   Reference   Caught trying to cheat twitter campaign
YTBitcoin -2: -1 / +0   2016-10-16   0.01500000   Reference   User failed to qualify for payment of sig campaign i managed. Then decides to be a total dick about it. His own fault for not qualifying. I urge other managers to not hire this guy for your campaigns
Osarman -4: -2 / +0   2016-10-24   0.00000000      Sig spammer
abhishek.g -8: -3 / +0   2016-11-22   0.00000000      Completely incompetent user. Hassles managers and isnt worth the trouble. WIll not be allowed in campaigns i manage
issie81 -16: -4 / +0   2016-12-09   0.00000000   Reference   Hacked acct accusation. Will remove when resolved
Ineedhfaccs -2: -1 / +0   2016-12-13   0.00000000   Reference   Buying reputation points for a different forum. Shady user
devthedev 140: -0 / +14   2016-12-13   0.00000000   Reference   completed an article for bitdouble
YTBitcoin -2: -1 / +0   2016-12-16   0.00000000   Reference   User spreads FUD in an attempt to get his way. Very disrespectful and showing bad character.
tbearhere -2: -1 / +0   2016-12-19   0.00000000      User leaves false feedback when they failed to complete sig campaign requirements.
ImHash 0: -0 / +0   2016-12-21   0.00000000   Reference   User does not like to accept managers decisions and is a total pain in the ass, Do not hire or work with this guy, waste of your time. Changed to neutral for now reserve the right to change back to neg
kikiyo -2: -1 / +0   2016-12-21   0.00000000   Reference   Cheating xaurum campaign
clickerz -2: -1 / +0   2016-12-21   0.00000000   Reference   Cheating xaurum campaign alt of kikiyo

[tbearhere]

@yahoo62278
I took the negative trusts off.... for now.

[yahoo62278]

You can do whatever you want man. I verify i sent those PMs if ppl can read them. I thought this user was only complaining about 1 week of no pay when he 1st messaged me but it was for 3 weeks. Its still the same though and the spreadsheet is public. Anyone is free to look at his posts and see he was treated fairly and  did not qualify.

@tbearhere it doesnt matter if you removed the neg trust or not. The fact is you put it there for no reason in the 1st place and youre still acting like a child with all the previous posts. Go take a course in how to be an adult then get back with me

[Lauda]

@yahoo62278
Need I get an international lawyer ? To solve this false accusations?

Looks like it. I took the no trust off...He will be contacting you.

Why are you talking to yourself?

5) result is: you are a newbie here and have zer information about bitcointalk forum.

6) Moral: Surf the forum properly first. Before joining any campaign (actually before buying account)

It doesn't surprise me quite frankly. It is probably just one of the reasons for which account sales should be banned and tagged on sight. Newbies need to work their way up, just like any reasonable user did (as one acquires certain knowledge along the way).
Posting those private messages, or that list of trust ratings (?) from somewhere was pointless.

[tbearhere]

You can do whatever you want man. I verify i sent those PMs if ppl can read them. I thought this user was only complaining about 1 week of no pay when he 1st messaged me but it was for 3 weeks. Its still the same though and the spreadsheet is public. Anyone is free to look at his posts and see he was treated fairly and  did not qualify.

@tbearhere it doesnt matter if you removed the neg trust or not. The fact is you put it there for no reason in the 1st place and youre still acting like a child with all the previous posts. Go take a course in how to be an adult then get back with me

You can put anything you want on that falsely I can't.