[SELLING] Thread closed

[Rmcdermott927]

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that. 

[FFrankie]

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that. 

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

[Zeroxal]

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion.

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that. 

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

[FFrankie]

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion.

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that. 

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Really because I thought we agreed on MJ to reship the coins.

and I was talking about the .15 for the lealana

[Zeroxal]

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion.

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that.  

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Really because I thought we agreed on MJ to reship the coins.

and I was talking about the .15 for the lealana

Why can't we just agree on an easy and classic escrow transaction? MJ receives  the coins, he releases the bitcoins, and reships the coin to me?
You're trying to avoid it by adding unnecessary things (release on tracking number, sending me video of packaging, public escrow sht) and telling me that you cannot use OG as an escrow.

[FFrankie]

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion.

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that.  

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Really because I thought we agreed on MJ to reship the coins.

and I was talking about the .15 for the lealana

Why can't we just agree on an easy and classic escrow transaction? MJ receives  the coins, he releases the bitcoins, and reships the coin to me?
You're trying to avoid it by adding unnecessary things (release on tracking number, sending me video of packaging, public escrow sht) and telling me that you cannot use OG as an escrow.

I didnt think OGnasty would bother with this as an escrow because of his 1$ fee, he would be making dust.

As long as your paying shipping fees and escrow fees Ill use whoever

[Lionidas]

(I would offer you 0.03 btc on the ravenbit. How much for shipping to Austria?)
I'll offer 0.42 for everything, plus shipping to Austria.

I would accept that if you paid for shipping to austria, and I guess it depends on the way I send it I will PM you more details

.41 but I also want your forum account as part of the deal.

why on earth would I sell my account

you need money.. and for 0.01 its a small price to pay for you to not be posting. actually ill make it 0.45 total for it all, including your account so I dont have to see your name in every thread

No thank you, however, I would agree to not post on this site for .15 BTC a month. PM me and let me know if you are interested

0.5BTC for everything - including your account. you must also request to be IP Banned, then you can take your shit to the Litecoin forum.

No thank you, but I will lower my offer to .10 btc per month to not post on the forum.

Holy $h1t!
Having to pay somebody to not post on the forum on a monthly basis?!?
Is this a new form of reverse extortion?  

Haven't heard of that one before.

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that.  

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Well you don't say.

[FFrankie]

(I would offer you 0.03 btc on the ravenbit. How much for shipping to Austria?)
I'll offer 0.42 for everything, plus shipping to Austria.

I would accept that if you paid for shipping to austria, and I guess it depends on the way I send it I will PM you more details

.41 but I also want your forum account as part of the deal.

why on earth would I sell my account

you need money.. and for 0.01 its a small price to pay for you to not be posting. actually ill make it 0.45 total for it all, including your account so I dont have to see your name in every thread

No thank you, however, I would agree to not post on this site for .15 BTC a month. PM me and let me know if you are interested

0.5BTC for everything - including your account. you must also request to be IP Banned, then you can take your shit to the Litecoin forum.

No thank you, but I will lower my offer to .10 btc per month to not post on the forum.

Holy $h1t!
Having to pay somebody to not post on the forum on a monthly basis?!?
Is this a new form of reverse extortion?  

Haven't heard of that one before.

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that.  

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Well you don't say.

Trade got cancelled between me and Zeroxal because me sending the coin to the escrow, and escrow shipping coin to Zeroxal  was too much of a "hassle" (in their words)

[Zeroxal]

(I would offer you 0.03 btc on the ravenbit. How much for shipping to Austria?)
I'll offer 0.42 for everything, plus shipping to Austria.

I would accept that if you paid for shipping to austria, and I guess it depends on the way I send it I will PM you more details

.41 but I also want your forum account as part of the deal.

why on earth would I sell my account

you need money.. and for 0.01 its a small price to pay for you to not be posting. actually ill make it 0.45 total for it all, including your account so I dont have to see your name in every thread

No thank you, however, I would agree to not post on this site for .15 BTC a month. PM me and let me know if you are interested

0.5BTC for everything - including your account. you must also request to be IP Banned, then you can take your shit to the Litecoin forum.

No thank you, but I will lower my offer to .10 btc per month to not post on the forum.

Holy $h1t!
Having to pay somebody to not post on the forum on a monthly basis?!?
Is this a new form of reverse extortion?  

Haven't heard of that one before.

User is trying to refuse escrow. He didn't want to USE OGNasty as an escrow, although he is advertising him in the thread. Then I said that MJ will be the middleman and that he'll forward the package to me. But he kind of refused and asked me if I would release the bitcoin once he sends me the tracking info. He wanted that the escrow will be made public and that MJ MUST release the bitcoins once the tracking says "delivered"
Very suspicious activity in my opinion

0.43 I offer for all

Edit, if you want to sell the lealana by itself, I'll offer 0.15 for that.  

That is the most tempting offer I have received yet, I think we are going to have a deal

Well, I offered you 0.44 btc, plus shipping.

Well you don't say.

Trade got cancelled between me and Zeroxal because me sending the coin to the escrow, and escrow shipping coin to Zeroxal  was too much of a "hassle" (in their words)

It's not about the hassle of the escrow. It was a hard time for me trying to communicate with you. Therefore I cancelled the trade.

[TMAN]

my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....

[FFrankie]

my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....

After your nasty comment I wouldn't sell these to you if you offer 100 btc

[TMAN]

my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....

After your nasty comment I wouldn't sell these to you if you offer 100 btc

yes you would don't lie.

[FFrankie]

Happy to accept coins for reshipping/escrow purposes.....

going to grab more popcorn

AWESOME. I am so happy you posted that I am going to quote you and put that in the OP incase people do not go to the second page, this is the best news I have heard all day.

Because

I was under the impression that how normally escrow works like this

Me
You
Escrow

You send BTC to escrow
I send you the package
I update you and escrow with tracking number,
escrow releases btc

however, I have learned that escrow can possibly be

you send btc to escrow
I send you package
you receive package
you update me and escrow that contents are valid
escrow releases btc

however, I do not see how escrow protects me in the second situation because who ever I sent the package too can just say I sent a rock or something

two weeks ago i learned that it could also be

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc

however, then this puts the BTC and items in the escrow hands so the escrow would have to be trustworthy and also in this situation it allows for more error, and damage to the package because I recently purchased the binary eagle and the case was damaged from the escrow to me, so I am SOL in that situation because the seller isnt going to fix an issue that was caused by the escrow and the escrow should be punished for the USPS damaging the item?

[TommyBitcoin]

Buyer sends btc to escrow.
Seller sends product to escrow.

If all checks out fine,
escrow releases btc to seller
escrow ships product to buyer. 

Everybody is happy 

[wheelz1200]

Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps

[FFrankie]

Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps

yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc

[smoothie]

Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps

yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc

I guess this is possible ^ assuming the escrowing person wants to reship the coins.

Not to mention who bears the cost of the double shipping costs? You? The buyer? Both?

[Lutpin]

Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.

In that case, you might think about videotaping yourself while packing the goods, including a clear shot of the shipping label,
so in case of any dispute (given the buyers missing "honesty"), you can provide sufficient proof to the escrow that you held up your end of the deal, so that he can still release the btc to you.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades
you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc

I guess this is possible ^ assuming the escrowing person wants to reship the coins.
Not to mention who bears the cost of the double shipping costs? You? The buyer? Both?

I've used this with Minerjones recently for an auction I won.
Since the seller was based in the US anyway and I prefer to get stuff shipped internationally in batches, rather than one by one, it was the obvious thing to do.
I think it depends on the situation, but it's one way to go for sure.

[monkeynuts]

Given that sales are often made here in 10's of bitcoins, rather than 1/10ths of bitcoins, this all appears to be getting out of hand.

The escrow is the trusted third party, and independant arbiter in case of dispute. Escrow is there to provide protection to both seller and buyer. Generally they would only handle the digital coins rather than a physical item.

BUT If buyer cannot trust seller to ship the item, rather than an empty box. And / or seller cannot trust the buyer to confirm delivery of the item, rather than an empty box ... then the escrow can be used to relay the physical item also. This is not generally how it is done, but it can be, if needs be.

At no point should escrow ever be released on being provided a tracking number only. The recieving party (or their proxy the escrow, in the second escrow scenario) should always be able to validate the goods recieved, prior to escrow funds being released.

If a deal cannot be reached in any of those models, then there isnt a deal to be had.

[AT101ET]

This thread is getting a little out of hand despite its entertainment value. Why can't you just use a middleman to receive the goods?
On a side note, how much for the Sol Noctis coin with shipping to the UK?
Thanks