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[CrazyCraig]

.. for the time being we capped fees as it was generating large unnecessary fees.

I don't really understand this. The fees are based on (kilo)bytes and bitcoind should be able to calculate this properly. Therefor it would be large necessary fees Right now it seems players make withdrawals that will never be confirmed. That is only annoying for your real players and also for you, as you will have to manually verify/credit them again after 72h.

If the micro deposits didn't get credited and the inputs are feasible to spend (which it indeed is), you would not lose money even if you have large fees? Again, might be better to make 1 big transaction. Or like RHavar said, lock those outputs and make 1 big transaction when mempool is low.



Either way, temporarily stopping withdrawals and fixing the problem (by locking inputs either by that code commit or manually) seems better than sending withdrawals with way too low fee IMO

The inputs are not feasible to spend. We have had several transactions that we have paid very large transaction fees on. We have had a few that were .1 for .005 transactions.

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[JackpotRacer]

everyone is invited to give his vote to our MP related Poll

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[Pseudo-Random]

The inputs are not feasible to spend. We have had several transactions that we have paid very large transaction fees on. We have had a few that were .1 for .005 transactions.

That's such a waste of money to miners, the bitcoin protocol allows so easily. Ridiculous. No way ready for anything remotely close to business mainstream adoption. I'd be beyond enraged even as an entrepreneur if I spent $130 fees for $6 items - that's completely past 'cost of doing business'.

[staxxd]

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[superbit]

How long for a withdrawal to be processed?

[CrazyCraig]

How long for a withdrawal to be processed?

Your request exceeded the hot wallet. We once the top off confirms we will send your transacation.

[Pseudo-Random]

Ah I'm gonna look a bit like a fool here since I don't know after all this time the details of how tx failure is handled on the network ; But I thought transactions were dropped from mempool / returned to sender after 3 days - it's been 90 hours now and still trying to confirm this mistake..?

My question is regarding this "Relay time : Wednesday, March 8th 2017, 21:29:39 -05:00" - Noticed that appearing there last night, is 'relay' meaning it's after 3 days that a miner / node first saw this tx as potentially mineable, or is it the time at which it was 'relayed' back to sender (and would now be sitting in some MP wallet other than my account balance, as the sending user) ..?

Just curious what that entry really means

[CrazyCraig]

Ah I'm gonna look a bit like a fool here since I don't know after all this time the details of how tx failure is handled on the network ; But I thought transactions were dropped from mempool / returned to sender after 3 days - it's been 90 hours now and still trying to confirm this mistake..?

My question is regarding this "Relay time : Wednesday, March 8th 2017, 21:29:39 -05:00" - Noticed that appearing there last night, is 'relay' meaning it's after 3 days that a miner / node first saw this tx as potentially mineable, or is it the time at which it was 'relayed' back to sender (and would now be sitting in some MP wallet other than my account balance, as the sending user) ..?

Just curious what that entry really means

Eventually, miners will drop it from their unconfirmed backlog and the transaction will remain spent in our wallet. If we wish to use these funds, we would need to create a double spend.

The fund will not be re-credited to the address owner on MP's system if that is what you are asking?

[RHavar]

My question is regarding this "Relay time : Wednesday, March 8th 2017, 21:29:39 -05:00" - Noticed that appearing there last night, is 'relay' meaning it's after 3 days that a miner / node first saw this tx as potentially mineable, or is it the time at which it was 'relayed' back to sender (and would now be sitting in some MP wallet other than my account balance, as the sending user) ..?

Just curious what that entry really means

The "first seen" is self-descriptive, it's the time that blocktrail first saw the transaction. This was went it was first made. The "relay" time is the *last* time it saw it. Wallets like bitcoin core will continually rebroadcast transactions (every 24h?) so that the network doesn't forget about it (most nodes expire mempool transactions after 48-72h). In your case, this is the opposite of what you want (I guess they forgot to `abandontransaction` on it).

The simplest solution would be to use CPFP to push the transaction through. Either you could do that (using the output they sent to) or moneypot could do it (using the change address) and it would confirm with ~30 minutes or so

[CrazyCraig]

My question is regarding this "Relay time : Wednesday, March 8th 2017, 21:29:39 -05:00" - Noticed that appearing there last night, is 'relay' meaning it's after 3 days that a miner / node first saw this tx as potentially mineable, or is it the time at which it was 'relayed' back to sender (and would now be sitting in some MP wallet other than my account balance, as the sending user) ..?

Just curious what that entry really means

The "first seen" is self-descriptive, it's the time that blocktrail first saw the transaction. This was went it was first made. The "relay" time is the *last* time it saw it. Wallets like bitcoin core will continually rebroadcast transactions (every 24h?) so that the network doesn't forget about it (most nodes expire mempool transactions after 48-72h). In your case, this is the opposite of what you want (I guess they forgot to `abandontransaction` on it).

The simplest solution would be to use CPFP to push the transaction through. Either you could do that (using the output they sent to) or moneypot could do it (using the change address) and it would confirm with ~30 minutes or so

I personally have attempted to abandon the transaction. The RPC states that the transaction is not eligible for abandonment.

The user above's account has been credited. I believe his question was more out of curiosity.

[Pseudo-Random]

My question is regarding this "Relay time : Wednesday, March 8th 2017, 21:29:39 -05:00" - Noticed that appearing there last night, is 'relay' meaning it's after 3 days that a miner / node first saw this tx as potentially mineable, or is it the time at which it was 'relayed' back to sender (and would now be sitting in some MP wallet other than my account balance, as the sending user) ..?

Just curious what that entry really means

The "first seen" is self-descriptive, it's the time that blocktrail first saw the transaction. This was went it was first made. The "relay" time is the *last* time it saw it. Wallets like bitcoin core will continually rebroadcast transactions (every 24h?) so that the network doesn't forget about it (most nodes expire mempool transactions after 48-72h). In your case, this is the opposite of what you want (I guess they forgot to `abandontransaction` on it).

The simplest solution would be to use CPFP to push the transaction through. Either you could do that (using the output they sent to) or moneypot could do it (using the change address) and it would confirm with ~30 minutes or so

I personally have attempted to abandon the transaction. The RPC states that the transaction is not eligible for abandonment.

The user above's account has been credited. I believe his question was more out of curiosity.

Thanks for your explanations Ryan & Craig, as always
Today I learned

So I guess this explains what happened.. this whole time I had thought MP had decided to wait until this tx was fully abandoned before crediting me haha, it's rather that they thought they had done so, probably based on the messages exchanged earlier in the thread, but then other things must've got mixed up and someone forgot to actually do it.

Maybe it's when DogeD sent me BTC from his wallet to one of my off-site wallets, and then I tipped him on MP to his account ; That was not a case of me being tipped/credited to my MP account, and the amount is different than 6666 anyway.

I checked each MP account, no 6666 bits received (or 5666 - you can fairly charge me that full withdraw fee for failed tx) in my balances anywhere. The withdraw had been done Sunday on this account. Assuming it will be credited by ~tomorrow or so :s

Again sorry to be a bother w/ such "small" amount - I wouldn't normally, except that I busted and there is an MP contest going on =P

Thanks

[RHavar]

I personally have attempted to abandon the transaction. The RPC states that the transaction is not eligible for abandonment.

FWIW all wallet transactions are eligible for abandonment, abandonment is not something that spreads on the network or anything -- it's purely a local thing to stop it continually broadcasting it. In your case, as you've credited his account you'll want to abandon it to make it less likely to confirm (and easier to conflict).

The only reason I can think you'd have trouble abandoning it, is if you've got child transactions from it (which you need to abandon first) or if you haven't cleared your mempool

[CrazyCraig]

I personally have attempted to abandon the transaction. The RPC states that the transaction is not eligible for abandonment.

FWIW all wallet transactions are eligible for abandonment, abandonment is not something that spreads on the network or anything -- it's purely a local thing to stop it continually broadcasting it. In your case, as you've credited his account you'll want to abandon it to make it less likely to confirm (and easier to conflict).

The only reason I can think you'd have trouble abandoning it, is if you've got child transactions from it (which you need to abandon first) or if you haven't cleared your mempool

I've cleared the mempool. The possibility of child transactions does exist. I will continue to investigate.

[seuntjie]

I know it's not a very high priority at the moment, but any ETA on when socketpot will be fixed? It's having a very negative effect on my DiceBot app even though the main betting isn't dependant on the socketpot.

[JackpotRacer]

I know it's not a very high priority at the moment, but any ETA on when socketpot will be fixed? It's having a very negative effect on my DiceBot app even though the main betting isn't dependant on the socketpot.

very interested to hear the answer for this question. thx for asking cause I thought I am the only one

[LTC0]

My withdrawal request went to pending then manually pushed through and it was sent with 34S/b transaction fee along with many dust inputs

Be careful when withdrawing it will most likely get stuck until Moneypot fix this issue

[jpcfan]

wished i would have read this thread before withdraw



https://blockchain.info/tx/aa112f1953102450180f1549a2bba4626596484d375b8ba3152d7decca263725

i sent it to shapeshift. for return address, i put my own wallet addy in there instead of mp addy i withdrew from.


will this be ok?

[Ddhacked]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822729.new#new

My sim card has been socially engineered.

Please ignore all communication from dogedigital until this has been resolved.

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[jpcfan]

https://blockchain.info/tx/aa112f1953102450180f1549a2bba4626596484d375b8ba3152d7decca263725




2 days now and no confirm. mp has serious issues with the withdraw process


mp even sent 0.001btc fee on this tx and still goes unconfirmed