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May 14, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
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my bank advertises 0.1% for up to € 2500,00 and a whopping 0.2% for a € 5000,00 deposit.

and that is p.a.

and they are not even ashamed of advertising it is a good deal.

i seriously think bitcoin price can do this in one minute or less. compare that to an entire year....

0.1% p.a. is a joke. bad one.

Why are we comparing Bitcoin and bank interest?  It is clear that banks are robbing us of our true profit.  We may win or lose in bitcoin but at least if we profit from bitcoin we get that 100% and not that 1% only from bank.  This comparison is a no brainer. Definitely Bitcoin will have a bigger profit.



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May 14, 2017, 10:15:28 PM
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Why are we comparing Bitcoin and bank interest?  It is clear that banks are robbing us of our true profit.  We may win or lose in bitcoin but at least if we profit from bitcoin we get that 100% and not that 1% only from bank.  This comparison is a no brainer. Definitely Bitcoin will have a bigger profit.
Yes, there is no meaning of comparing these two. Maybe got this idea from moving funds from bank for the purpose on investing into bitcoins. But as per current trend, not just bank interest rates any solid business also may not neat the percentage of returns bitcoin may provide to its investors.
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May 16, 2017, 04:51:50 PM
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Lots of carry trade to be found in crypto currency
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May 16, 2017, 06:55:58 PM
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Almost all banks I see offer less than 1percent.  What bank offers 10percent? So you are aware, most 401k plans give you a range of 5percent to 15 percent a year.

A bank giving 10percent is really good and safer than a 401k. To get higher in a 401k you need to have riskier stocks.

Anyways, btc is still a good thing to keep buying. Day trading can make you more too.
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May 16, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
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Bank interest is designed to make you poor. It doesn't make you poor instantly (sometimes it does if a bank goes bankrupt) but slowly. You should never ever count on bank interest. You can't make any money by counting on interest rates. It is for dumb people.

Actually you shouldn't even keep all of your money in banks, far too dangerous. I am not saying that you should withdraw everything and bury them, but at least keep some of your wealth somewhere away from banks' reach.

What you need to do is chasing opportunities like bitcoin. You shouldn't aim to collect only bitcoin. It can be stocks, it can be gold, it can be some cheap real estate... You need to look for value wherever it can be found, and you should never ever go all in with one investment.

If would have become at least x10 richer than what i am now if i purchased bitcoins with all of my money but the opposite could have happened either. Risk management reduces your possible winnings but it also reduces your potential losses. Staying alive is the most important thing in the long run.

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May 16, 2017, 08:59:15 PM
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Bank interest is designed to make you poor. It doesn't make you poor instantly (sometimes it does if a bank goes bankrupt) but slowly. You should never ever count on bank interest. You can't make any money by counting on interest rates. It is for dumb people.

This can't be avoided.  Government and banks joined force to brainwash people from their young age that their best friend in finance are banks.

Actually you shouldn't even keep all of your money in banks, far too dangerous. I am not saying that you should withdraw everything and bury them, but at least keep some of your wealth somewhere away from banks' reach.

I agree, keeping our money in banks are too dangerous, they have all the power to access it, freeze it or even steal it in a broad day light.


Bitcoin is way better than banks because we hold it ourself, it is a good store of value and very secured network.



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June 13, 2017, 09:23:12 AM
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Bank interest is designed to make you poor. It doesn't make you poor instantly (sometimes it does if a bank goes bankrupt) but slowly. You should never ever count on bank interest. You can't make any money by counting on interest rates. It is for dumb people.

This can't be avoided.  Government and banks joined force to brainwash people from their young age that their best friend in finance are banks.

Actually you shouldn't even keep all of your money in banks, far too dangerous. I am not saying that you should withdraw everything and bury them, but at least keep some of your wealth somewhere away from banks' reach.

I agree, keeping our money in banks are too dangerous, they have all the power to access it, freeze it or even steal it in a broad day light.


Bitcoin is way better than banks because we hold it ourself, it is a good store of value and very secured network.

I keep some of my money in big banks. They are better than some bitcoin exchanges.
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June 13, 2017, 09:32:59 AM
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Can you really get 10% per annum on a USD balance anywhere?  Maybe on a local currency account -where you get a high rate in local because the market prices in depreciation of the local currency against the USD - ie the forward FX rate is lower than the current.
Arbitrage says USD 1000 at USD rates invested for one year = the same amount in USD terms as Local Ccy equivalent invested at local Ccy rates for 1yr X 1yr Forward FX

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June 13, 2017, 10:31:18 AM
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Bank interest is designed to make you poor. It doesn't make you poor instantly (sometimes it does if a bank goes bankrupt) but slowly. You should never ever count on bank interest. You can't make any money by counting on interest rates. It is for dumb people.

This can't be avoided.  Government and banks joined force to brainwash people from their young age that their best friend in finance are banks.

Actually you shouldn't even keep all of your money in banks, far too dangerous. I am not saying that you should withdraw everything and bury them, but at least keep some of your wealth somewhere away from banks' reach.

I agree, keeping our money in banks are too dangerous, they have all the power to access it, freeze it or even steal it in a broad day light.


Bitcoin is way better than banks because we hold it ourself, it is a good store of value and very secured network.

I keep some of my money in big banks. They are better than some bitcoin exchanges.
Small banks, big banks, they are birds of the same feather, Shylock was their progenitor. For your deposits, they offer you pea nuts and if you turn around to seek for any loan from them, that is when you would understand what interest your deposit was really worth. They (the governments) got it all figured out to whip people into line through their agent - the banks and it is no wonder Bitcoin is more or less their nightmare.
 
By the way, exchanges are places to exchange your money and never where they should be stored.
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June 13, 2017, 06:56:09 PM
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I only use bank to receive the proceeds from trading profit of bitcoin that i exchange through the exchanger, immediately withdraw all using atm. I never borrow or saving to bank. Bank interest is very small if i only keep less than $1K and monthly administration fee is bigger. Well, at trading i can get more profit.


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July 09, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
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I only use bank to receive the proceeds from trading profit of bitcoin that i exchange through the exchanger, immediately withdraw all using atm. I never borrow or saving to bank. Bank interest is very small if i only keep less than $1K and monthly administration fee is bigger. Well, at trading i can get more profit.
Same here, it will the be easiest way to get my hands on what I've earned (Bitcoin).

That's when people get judgmental and smooch around stuffs about people who has a big house, a car, a backyard pool, 'nice job' etc. but they do not know that it was all because of loaning in banks that makes these 'assets' that says "Hey I have this fanciful life because of my job and my bank!". But the truth is, it (loan) became their lifetime payment sentence.
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July 10, 2017, 12:49:03 PM
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I introduced a friend to bitcoin in 2016 and he bought 20 bitcoins at $455 somewhere in January 2016. He now sold all of them at $1005 per bitcoin. After bank fees and trading fees, he made a profit of about $10 000 in a year.

The best interest rate he could get back in January was about 10% per year. So his profit from bank interest would have been +/- $910 for 2016.

Even after Tax has been deducted for Capital Gains, he will still Net a profit of about $7000 for the year. He is a very happy chap now, and I got a expensive lunch out of this deal. ^smile^

#Disclaimer : These are calculations done by him, so I do not know how accurate they are. Just thought I would share it with you.

Would you risk about $10 000 now, to possibly copy his success? Those were very uncertain times, when he had to make that decision back then.
As he bought Bitcoin when its price was really low. he can easily earn profits but for now, Bitcoin price is really high, we can not earn profits as easy as himself anymore.

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I introduced a friend to bitcoin in 2016 and he bought 20 bitcoins at $455 somewhere in January 2016. He now sold all of them at $1005 per bitcoin. After bank fees and trading fees, he made a profit of about $10 000 in a year.

The best interest rate he could get back in January was about 10% per year. So his profit from bank interest would have been +/- $910 for 2016.

Even after Tax has been deducted for Capital Gains, he will still Net a profit of about $7000 for the year. He is a very happy chap now, and I got a expensive lunch out of this deal. ^smile^

#Disclaimer : These are calculations done by him, so I do not know how accurate they are. Just thought I would share it with you.

Would you risk about $10 000 now, to possibly copy his success? Those were very uncertain times, when he had to make that decision back then.
As he bought Bitcoin when its price was really low. he can easily earn profits but for now, Bitcoin price is really high, we can not earn profits as easy as himself anymore.
I agree, the current price is far from making profits. Although it dropped at a lump some amount it will still be considered high, compared to last year's price.
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I introduced a friend to bitcoin in 2016 and he bought 20 bitcoins at $455 somewhere in January 2016. He now sold all of them at $1005 per bitcoin. After bank fees and trading fees, he made a profit of about $10 000 in a year.

The best interest rate he could get back in January was about 10% per year. So his profit from bank interest would have been +/- $910 for 2016.

Even after Tax has been deducted for Capital Gains, he will still Net a profit of about $7000 for the year. He is a very happy chap now, and I got a expensive lunch out of this deal. ^smile^

#Disclaimer : These are calculations done by him, so I do not know how accurate they are. Just thought I would share it with you.

Would you risk about $10 000 now, to possibly copy his success? Those were very uncertain times, when he had to make that decision back then.

You should not compare the bank's benefits with the bitcoin profits, because they differ widely. The bank defaults to a very low profit margin every year, while bitcoin continues to grow, and profits from it increase dramatically....
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July 10, 2017, 03:24:36 PM
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Banks make money by using your deposits from your account to lend or invest in other assets. The more you have in there, the more of it they leverage. This is outright criminal. Not to mention the risk of bank interest rates going negative in the future or a bank bail-in.

Even though Bitcoin is risky, I have no doubt that if I keep the majority of my wealth in bitcoin that the average interest (appreciation) of the asset averaged over a decade or more will spank any interest returns that any bank account could give.
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July 10, 2017, 03:35:32 PM
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Surely your friend is a lucky person. He buys bitcoin at the right price and sells it at the right time. If you look at the total profit gained then use bitcoin much better. Bitcoin prices can increase significantly. While the interest of the bank will not produce a large amount. So I'll better choose the bitcoin as the best at the moment.
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July 10, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
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I introduced a friend to bitcoin in 2016 and he bought 20 bitcoins at $455 somewhere in January 2016. He now sold all of them at $1005 per bitcoin. After bank fees and trading fees, he made a profit of about $10 000 in a year.

The best interest rate he could get back in January was about 10% per year. So his profit from bank interest would have been +/- $910 for 2016.

Even after Tax has been deducted for Capital Gains, he will still Net a profit of about $7000 for the year. He is a very happy chap now, and I got a expensive lunch out of this deal. ^smile^

#Disclaimer : These are calculations done by him, so I do not know how accurate they are. Just thought I would share it with you.

Would you risk about $10 000 now, to possibly copy his success? Those were very uncertain times, when he had to make that decision back then.

You should not compare the bank's benefits with the bitcoin profits, because they differ widely. The bank defaults to a very low profit margin every year, while bitcoin continues to grow, and profits from it increase dramatically....
But you need know when invest to buying Bitcoin very risky at now, example: If 1st August SegWit2x failure, will Bitcoin still keep the price is > $2000 and stable with this price? I can sure 100% can't do that and panic seller with happening.

With saving in bank, although not earning more extra profit but the bank can helps you keep safe your funds and small risk, remeber that!
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July 10, 2017, 04:24:22 PM
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I don't know how much is 0.1% but in my country which is going bankrupt day by day , if you deposit 10.000 Euros they give you 0.5 Euro annual interest. Now can any other bank beat this (see the irony ) ? Ah old good days of Italian Lira, we were all having a good life at those times here in Italy, Euro destroyed everything and I mean everything for real.
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July 10, 2017, 05:05:08 PM
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I don't know how much is 0.1% but in my country which is going bankrupt day by day , if you deposit 10.000 Euros they give you 0.5 Euro annual interest. Now can any other bank beat this (see the irony ) ? Ah old good days of Italian Lira, we were all having a good life at those times here in Italy, Euro destroyed everything and I mean everything for real.
You assume that in this way destroy all Bitcoin? It seems to me that Bitcoin in general may exist in parallel with all currencies of the world. I do not think that the banking system will go on destroying its own assets in real money.
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July 10, 2017, 05:14:06 PM
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It seems too much to compare bank interest with bitcoin profit, in my country bank interest about 12% a year, bitcoin price last year about $ 600 and proven bitcoin profitable up to about 400%. Are you still doubt?
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