Interest thread for Eliovp linux build for pandaminer

[philipma1957]

Okay Evliop and I have bounced a few ideas around and we agreed to start a thread.

The panda miner is pretty darn good piece of gear.
It could use a linux build and Evliop has built a linux that works.

So  we came up with a 2 tier donation idea.

Tier 1 is  the linux build + drivers for the mobo   cost =   1x
Tier 2 is the linux build + drivers for the mobo + roms = 1.5x

If we get enough interest   and get past a threshold   I would open an address   take collections and then the build A or B would be sent to the donators.

Obviously once the builds are released people will spread them around so For Evliop it is a 1 shot deal more or less for a pay off.

Now this is all very tentative and no funds are going to be collected by me at the moment.

We tossed around ideas as to what is a fair asking price and we decided to open the thread and ask.

For me

 If I were to purchase tier 1 I might pay as much as  x     for linux + mobo drivers

If I were to purchase tier 2 I might pay as much as  1.5x   for linux + mobo drivers + rom for gpus


These numbers   would at least help Evliop get an idea how much interest there is for the product.

[yun9999]

Sounds weird that Tier 2 is higher class membership then Tier 1.  =)

I'm interested in the complete solution so I guess it would be Tier 2. 

If I were to purchase tier 2 I might pay as much as  1.5x   for linux + mobo drivers + rom for gpus

[xxcsu]

My guess is ... Someone from pandaminer going to pay that donation , they going to get all those modded roms, drivers for linux , and soon they starting to sell they own miners with linux I dont think they really care about paying for operation system or anything else , as they used a non activated win 10 enterprise for the pandaminer operation system ...
It might be better option for Eliovp to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work


Im in  .... for a full bundle
as soon as the pandaminer price going lower a little bit, im going to order a few of those for sure:) But right now for me is still better option to build my own rigs as a small farm operator

[citronick]

count me in for a full bundle.

[jstefanop]

seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

YEah i agree, pandaminer should probably hire evliop to release for the masses

in any cases, keep up the good work guys !

seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

if it was this easy everyone would do it

[Q_R_V]

[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work

This. Exactly my thought.

[Eliovp]

seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

If it was only that easy

Well, yeah, it is that easy, but there are no supported drivers for the NIC, which is a PCIe NIC.
If you boot the system, go into the bios of the main board, you'll see as first boot "windows boot loader",  not just the msata disk like in any other case.
So in other words, just installing ubuntu, yeah, perhaps  
It wasn't "just" installing ubuntu when i first got it..

It has everything pre-configured, every single miner out there is on it ready to run with a perfectly optimized config for each algo out there.

Oh yeah, but that's already clear enough, modified roms, so not only copied straps but custom ones and of course VDDC offset added.

Greetings.

[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work

This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is 

[jstefanop]

seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

If it was only that easy

Well, yeah, it is that easy, but there are no supported drivers for the NIC, which is a PCIe NIC.
If you boot the system, go into the bios of the main board, you'll see as first boot "windows boot loader",  not just the msata disk like in any other case.
So in other words, just installing ubuntu, yeah, perhaps  
It wasn't "just" installing ubuntu when i first got it..

It has everything pre-configured, every single miner out there is on it ready to run with a perfectly optimized config for each algo out there.

Oh yeah, but that's already clear enough, modified roms, so not only copied straps but custom ones and of course VDDC offset added.

Greetings.

[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work

This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is 

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

[Longsnowsm]

I will say I haven't bought a Pandaminer yet.  But at this point I wouldn't buy one unless I knew I had access to the custom Linux, and ROM's that Eliovp is building.  

I would like to see the Pandaminer be like an appliance.  A simple user interface the user just selects the coin to mine and forget about it.  Of course maybe a few bells and whistles later on for monitoring and that sort of thing. The beauty would be you buy it, you add the OS and ROM's, start it and no more messing around.  

I would also like to think that as updates come along and new features that make this more of an appliance happens that for a period of time the updates would be provided as part of the initial cost, but later on if you want the updates and enhancements it would be perfectly reasonable to charge for the updates.

You might add a 3rd option for those who want to stay with the Windows build which would be to sell just the ROM's for the cards.  

This is just coming from a "bystander" at the moment who is watching this with peaked interest.  

[xxcsu]

[...] pandaminer [...]
It might be better option for Evliop to contact them , and try to get a deal with them for his hard work

This. Exactly my thought.

You should contact them and you'll quickly notice how awesome communicating with those guys is  

At least you can try to contact them , Im sure they going to steal your hard work as soon as you made public.
I had no problem to communicating with them , they answered my email's within a day . You are offering them a "free optimized operation system" instead of that pirated windows 10 enterprise ...

Eliovp ! I have a question for you You are created custom rom's for those RX 480 mxm cards. Those rom's are optimized for ETH ? Zcash ? XMR?
I modded my own bioses for a lot of cards, optimized them for ETH mining , but what working fine for ETH , that not the best for zCash, what is the best for zcash , that not the greatest for XMR
Usually all my optimized, modded bios for ETH , performing worst than the original, factory bios on zcash.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

I will say I haven't bought a Pandaminer yet.  But at this point I wouldn't buy one unless I knew I had access to the custom Linux, and ROM's that Eliovp is building.  

I would like to see the Pandaminer be like an appliance.  A simple user interface the user just selects the coin to mine and forget about it.  Of course maybe a few bells and whistles later on for monitoring and that sort of thing. The beauty would be you buy it, you add the OS and ROM's, start it and no more messing around.  

I would also like to think that as updates come along and new features that make this more of an appliance happens that for a period of time the updates would be provided as part of the initial cost, but later on if you want the updates and enhancements it would be perfectly reasonable to charge for the updates.

You might add a 3rd option for those who want to stay with the Windows build which would be to sell just the ROM's for the cards.  

This is just coming from a "bystander" at the moment who is watching this with peaked interest.  

Yup exactly my thoughts long', the hardware seems to be awesome, but there is much work to do on the software, with a custom linux release with modded roms, and let be crazy a web interface to manage the miners & such, you would have a winner

[philipma1957]

seriously? just download 16.04 ubuntu and install the amdgpu-pro drivers...

for those that know how to fine and simple

for those that don't and fear a brick this is offered.

I am a gear head far more then a software guy.  and the idea of bricking my 2180 plus shipping miner loading 16.04 ubuntu into it is a bit frightening.

I would love for pandaminer to cut a deal and just install linux  or a linux option.

I have a lot of skills in life but linux builds  so far 1 and done..  I did 1 build for my  compac sticks 16 month ago.




For more transparency  here.

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB key is a fail for the following reason

They issue 1 key number with 10 to 500 or even more pc that can use the key.

If I own Pandaminer and buy a 600 pc Key   even pc has that key.  So unless I load every one of my 600 pc's then ship every one to the same guy I am subject to theft.  How is that.  lets say I load 400 pc's  my key has 200 left on it.

First thief to get one of the windows 10 Enterprise LTSB  simply lifts the key and loads the remaining 200 pc's   and pandaminer loses 200 of 600 pcs worth of windows 10 enterprise.

Contact windows and see if you can buy a 1 pc key for windows 10 enterprise LTSB.  If you can pleas buy 2 and sell one to me.


More transparency.  MY pandaminer  was sent without any payment  I agreed to pay pandaminer  a fair price for it.  (yet to be determined)

What does that mean  It means I have a little bit of leverage not a lot to try to get a better os for us.  

If you read the original thread carefully they are difficult to talk things out.

I could use someone really fluent in Chinese and English to help to talk to them.  I am not looking to make big money here  I don't expect much of anything .  What I would like is to get  the miner  sold and spread to smaller miners.  Ie  the 5kwatt or less guys  not the farms.


I will post a photo in ten minutes.

24 gpus and 6 mobos 6 psus



8 gpus 1 psu

Outlined for more clarity

so the rack of 24 would be an easy rack of 48

[Eliovp]

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated . Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..

[Longsnowsm]

Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated . Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..

Don't listen to haters,keep up the good work

Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.

Same here, i think it's aimed to be a "packaged" solution, plug & play so if someone offer a better package, worked it out with his sweat, why he shouldn't be able to turn a few buck out of it ? that's our basic right. Again keep up the good work guys 

[philipma1957]

Ive never heard of any modern NIC that not PCIe based...I understand charging for moded roms, but for a free OS that needs a few configuration changes and some drivers installed is a bit of a stretch.

ill probably buy one of these and ill just post a working linux clone as soon as I get it, or more easily the instructions needed to run it on linux.

Ok, i might have just not been clear enough.

This isn't your average joe NIC, it's a custom main board and it's an integrated one. Not one you can just go and order online.

It indeed is a free OS, very true, but just maybe, it could be completely automated . Perhaps it's even designed for large farms...  


You shouldn't be so negative.

I'm not 100% sure so correct me on this if i'm wrong but i reckon to have seen other posts of you trying to put certain things in a bad daylight when someone "could" make some money... It almost seems like you're a bit jealous


Greetings!


Edit: And no, i haven't always been so "holy" either..

Don't listen to haters,keep up the good work

Farm ready, buy it, set it, forget it.  Simplify management and monitoring.  This OS and ROM's with the ability to simply the operations for the end user is value added.  Sure people could do this themselves.  That isn't the audience for the target market for this device.  At least not in my opinion.

Same here, i think it's aimed to be a "packaged" solution, plug & play so if someone offer a better package, worked it out with his sweat, why he shouldn't be able to turn a few buck out of it ? that's our basic right. Again keep up the good work guys 

and my point is it would be a one shot deal  since we all know someone will release for free to prevent a second donation thread.

I have given 1000's of of dollars away  for zero nothing on my difficulty prediction  threads.

If I have to I would give 500 usd to  Eliovp  for a full copy  to get him to do it for me.   And I would release it in time.

He built it works.  and like it or not this miner  will be competitive  with gpu rigs.  I want little people with 1 ,2, 3 rigs  in on the action.

I look down the road here    and once again  compare the 2 photos posted

six 4 card rigs



 1 eight card rig   which means the rack below can fit

six rigs and 3 psus  say  the    ibm 2880    using 48 cards  use only 6 ethernet cables 

the other way  2 racks   12 atx psus using 48 cards and 12 enternet cable

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

yeah it is indeed very interesting, still the warranty that make me a bit wary, otherwise the hardware seems very sound and the software if improved, that could be awesome stuff for sure. I like the pics

[Eyedol-X]

I'm interested but would like to know results of this if it improves upon performance and reliability.

[FFI2013]

Im interested but every other miner on the market is pretty much plug and play or cgminer why would any one spend over 2000 for a miner than you cant read the software than have to pay to get the software when the company who's building and selling these should ship it with a supported os