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February 14, 2017, 09:37:38 PM |
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I agree to remove my negative rating against him provided that he repays the OP the full amount he is owed or any other mutuality agreed upon amount that is stipulated is the full amount due.
The above is contingent on there being no other outstanding scam accusations with reasonable proof against him (unless they are repaid in a similar way).
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The Sceptical Chymist
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February 14, 2017, 09:56:26 PM |
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COINMAN, my suggestion is to ask for whatever you sent him in the first place. Unless he's sought out some psychiatric help between his last post here and now, he'll probably flip his shit and this will turn into another shit-slinging shit fest again. You can ask for the interest, but I probably would be happy with just the minimum you can get.
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February 14, 2017, 10:13:38 PM |
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Thanks Quickseller and The Pharmacist for your review and for your all the support your review worth a lot for me and about interest thing if you all guys thing i deserve any interest for late payment then i think mixan have to give me that and if you all think that interest in not fair then i am ok with no interest so its all upto you
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February 15, 2017, 01:01:11 AM |
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today mixan send me this MSG i already send PMS to all related forum members so just waiting for there reply How much is to pay you back? I only do this for the following rules: to clear up all the trust feedback and all the accusation threads |(you must delete them all) and tell EVERYONE who has put neg on my account to remove them all!
Do not ask for stupid amount because that will be posted to your open accusation thread and it will be labelled as extortion and even lauda can not get away from it on their negative given on their account.
Do not ask for stupid amount because that will be posted to your open accusation thread and it will be labelled as extortion and even lauda can not get away from it on their negative given on their account.
extortion ikˈstôrSH(ə)n/ noun the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. I hardly think that asking for any amount of money would be a threat or force - the damage is done. There's nothing to threaten unless you consider the omission of a request for people to remove their negative feedbacks a 'threat'. I don't.
I'll wait for COINMAN1 to publicly state an amount and I will state whether I agree with it or not. However, regardless of the amount requested, there is no reason for anyone to remove their feedback unless they feel like it is reasonable to do so. If COINMAN1 requests 0.1 BTC, so be it. It's a simple request.
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February 15, 2017, 03:12:55 AM Last edit: February 15, 2017, 07:01:49 AM by NOP@SSWORD |
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What happens to the guy? It looks like he become bat shit crazy. First time with drugs?
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February 15, 2017, 05:22:11 AM |
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What happens to guy? It looks like he become bat shit crazy. First time with drugs?
LOL to that. No I just repented my sins and wish to do good and not extent this any further. That is all really. I see that holding a grudge for too long is not good for soul so I have to make right with paying him back so nothing bad happens to me anymore in life. Because as far as I have learnt: Doing bad on others has repercussions. In the bad way.. is there any others?! So I do agree to pay the amount I owe nothing more nothing less. If he accepts this then I will pay it to him directly. This is the pm I received from him. But from the posts on here so far since I last came to be on it, it seems that it has been displayed for all too see anyways. How much is to pay you back? I only do this for the following rules: to clear up all the trust feedback and all the accusation threads |(you must delete them all) and tell EVERYONE who has put neg on my account to remove them all!
Do not ask for stupid amount because that will be posted to your open accusation thread and it will be labelled as extortion and even lauda can not get away from it on their negative given on their account.
i just reopen the thread so please post what exactly you want in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743036.0My reply back to him just now: How much is to pay you back? I only do this for the following rules: to clear up all the trust feedback and all the accusation threads |(you must delete them all) and tell EVERYONE who has put neg on my account to remove them all!
Do not ask for stupid amount because that will be posted to your open accusation thread and it will be labelled as extortion and even lauda can not get away from it on their negative given on their account.
i just reopen the thread so please post what exactly you want in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1743036.0It would all depend on how much you want to be paid back. And you would need to orgainze from all that have given me negative trust to post on that thread they will remove the negatives. I will pay back the amount owing of 0.0416btc. Nothing more nothing less. You ruin a man's rep and want to make him pay more? No way to that. Agree with the 0.0416btc payment and we can call this month long feud to be over. Agreed? I want to make this as transparent as possible here. Unlike alot of mud sling around that has happened since that is my own fault and I do apologize for that. Asking for 0.1btc for this is just insane ActMyName and is not even implicible here.
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February 15, 2017, 06:57:28 AM |
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As OP has PM'd me in this case, I will respond here. If there is a mutual agreement that goes through, I will follow with whatever (if reasonable) the other two DT members do.
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February 15, 2017, 08:11:55 AM |
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OP Pm'ed me about mixan's message about repaying him and fixing accusations. I however will change my feedback to neutral rather than to fully remove it. It was really unprofessional to leave a deal in between and refuse to pay or either send back the bitcoins back to COINMAN1 which I think should be reflected in his probile in form of either neutral feedback(if he pays the amount in full) or negative (if he still refuses to pay).
Talking about the amount, I would say interest should be taken from mixan for not honuring deal within expected timeframe and holding bitcoins of COINMAN1 for nearly 1+ month. However this is something that COINMAN1 needs to decide. It is something that I see more of as a loan deal rather than a trade deal. (BTW anyone seen it as a 0% interest loan for 1 month?)
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February 15, 2017, 09:14:56 AM |
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Fully agree with the opinion of the Avirunes(expressed above), I could only add, that Mixan should not demand COINMAN1 clean his reputation(telling to EVERYONE who has put neg) , here his own affairs.
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COINMAN1 (OP)
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February 15, 2017, 02:35:57 PM |
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Thanks all of you who help me in this problem your support worth a lot for me So mixan first of all remove all your negative feedback that you left for me In my threads and profile both and send 0.056992BTC at 14fsh84VQ8gWMETMrG8iyZ9Bbzi5zNFc6H That's the total amount that you have to pay me and our issue is resolved Once done reply here with TRX I'd so everyone can see that you really pay me
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February 15, 2017, 02:49:22 PM |
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In regards to the pm I received from coinman,I don't think it's wise to charge interest for the amount owed.People make mistakes and if you don't give them an opportunity to grow,they will never change.Forgive him and move on. @Mixan : If you're paying him just in hopes to get your negatives cleared,I'm afraid DTS will encourage that.Negatives will still stay as a warning for your shady behaviour in the past.Paying your debts just to have them removed is equally worse.
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COINMAN1 (OP)
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February 15, 2017, 02:55:17 PM |
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In regards to the pm I received from coinman,I don't think it's wise to charge interest for the amount owed.People make mistakes and if you don't give them an opportunity to grow,they will never change.Forgive him and move on. @Mixan : If you're paying him just in hopes to get your negatives cleared,I'm afraid DTS will encourage that.Negatives will still stay as a warning for your shady behaviour in the past.Paying your debts just to have them removed is equally worse.
Thanks for your reply Actually its not about only mistake its about he really tried hard to ruin my reputation and I am OK if he just stay away from our forum and don't ever try to scam us again
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COINMAN1 (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 07:10:03 PM |
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looks like Mixan dont want to pay
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February 17, 2017, 04:56:50 PM |
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Looks like Mixan ran out of crack temporarily and had a moment of clarity. Right back on it and back to the insanity though
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February 17, 2017, 06:49:14 PM |
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Right back on it and back to the insanity though Maybe he had a sudden realization from one of the comments above that paying the money back wouldn't necessarily have his reputation restored and hence he decided to live with it.That was a smart decision for someone to be on the 'crack'.
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February 17, 2017, 06:59:50 PM |
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Looks like Mixan ran out of crack temporarily and had a moment of clarity. Right back on it and back to the insanity though Rofl-snort holy shit. I think he's comes off the bender now and part of his NA steps would be of course to apologize to those that he's hurt. Good thing he came back. I seriously thought he fucking lost his mind.
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February 17, 2017, 09:43:40 PM |
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How many second chances does one deserve?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the attempts to cajole mixan into doing the right thing. I doubt this is going to work though. Whatever the outcome please leave at least neutrals if you remove negs.
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February 18, 2017, 12:01:27 AM |
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How many second chances does one deserve?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the attempts to cajole mixan into doing the right thing. I doubt this is going to work though. Whatever the outcome please leave at least neutrals if you remove negs.
Upgrading from negative to neutral is no different to upgrading from neutral to positive when it comes to buying trust and that's all mixan is trying to do here "I will pay you back if everyone removes their negative trust." This is a classic example of buying trust and should be marked accordingly. Read mixan's trust wall: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=195206Timelord2067 38: -0 / +4 2016-07-29 0.00000000 Reference mixan taking over 48 hours to complete your PayPal to his BitCoin transactionshttp://archive.is/AbKHI#selection-8141.0-8140.24 Timelord2067 38: -0 / +4 2016-05-28 0.00000000 Reference Mixan now claims he bought this account *after* November 2015... suchmoon 17: -0 / +2 2016-03-29 0.00000000 Reference User attempted to scam by selling fake positive trust. Don't trade with this user unless you have an ironclad agreement and a solid escrow. DarkStar_ 0: -0 / +0 2016-03-28 0.00000000 Reference Threatening to dox a user because he accused him of trying to sell trust/rejecting his offer to buy BTC at -25% preev rates. mixan has been working the system for long enough.
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February 18, 2017, 03:26:13 AM |
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Upgrading from negative to neutral is no different to upgrading from neutral to positive when it comes to buying trust and that's all mixan is trying to do here "I will pay you back if everyone removes their negative trust."
Well, it is a little bit different in that it doesn't make him green(er) and the comment is likely going to be unflattering but I agree with you that mixan is trying to game the system. I'm not saying anyone should revise from neg to neutral, only that if you do decide to remove a neg please at least post a neutral. Neutral is better than nothing at all, at least for those who can read (nearly extinct skill sadly).
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February 18, 2017, 04:06:52 AM |
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Frankly, I'm not inclined to remove my negative even if he pays this off. Red feedback indicates that you don't trust the recipient of said red, and would any of you trust mixan after his extremely public psychiatric meltdown here? I sure as hell wouldn't, and I think the red needs to stay as a warning to others.
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