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January 09, 2017, 04:29:13 AM |
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$ADK ~ watch & learn...
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January 09, 2017, 08:47:57 AM |
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That's quite an arrogant statement. Ethereum is good competition for Bitcoin. Ethereum will help to speed Bitcoin's development and force it to make better decisions. A small hedge in Ethereum makes good sense. Piling everything on to Bitcoin with increasing levels of uncertainty is not a good idea.
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January 09, 2017, 11:08:43 AM |
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ETH would be a great currency if the programmers are more serious about it , and if they didn't get rich from it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) in general no one can be certain about ETH future , some people saying it's the future and others saying that it will disappear soon personally I prefer btc since it's way safer and it's proved to be a winner bet , but can't give an advice especially about ETH
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January 09, 2017, 01:20:31 PM |
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Can we expect any significant rise in the price of Ethereum or not?
of course we can. that is one of the basics of any pump and dump altcoin. they get dumped, lay low (accumulation phase) and then have a significant rise. There has been a lot of negative publicity and sometimes it seems that the coin is just slowly dying. Is that true?
many of them are correct, things about manipulations, pumps, coin being held by a certain group of people (lack of distribution),... and coins like this have always slowly died. ethereum is not the first.
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January 09, 2017, 01:27:26 PM |
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So is it a good idea to mine it and hold it? Or is it better to switch onto mining Monero/Zcash?
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January 09, 2017, 01:42:43 PM |
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I think there is a potencial that ethereum will be the same as bitcoin if you remember if what is the price of bitcoin in 2013 i think its start $10 and hits $1k in few months so in ethereum i think it can be happen for now they have slow adoption that i think they need more merchant and site are accepting ethereum so that ethereum can be push to increase the value because it will become in demand.
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January 09, 2017, 01:44:13 PM |
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I think! Classic needs but I need more change! ETH very good but last year many problem!
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January 09, 2017, 03:35:14 PM |
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That's quite an arrogant statement. Ethereum is good competition for Bitcoin. Ethereum will help to speed Bitcoin's development and force it to make better decisions. A small hedge in Ethereum makes good sense. Piling everything on to Bitcoin with increasing levels of uncertainty is not a good idea. I think it can help bitcoin devs to not get too confident, but ethereum itself is not a competitor of bitcoin... ethereum can never be real competition because the technology is not viable to be a long term storage option. As we have seen, ethereum is too prone to hard forks and stuff, also the coin supply is inflationary which makes it useless to hold long term.
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January 09, 2017, 03:36:36 PM |
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ETH is popular altcoin, it is NR.2 after Bitcoin, altcoin with a lot of users - it is very important, when you considering buy/sale. ETH price can go up, see time graphs here - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/. This time problem can be - what would be the profit, if you buy ETH now and sale later, let say after 3 months.
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January 09, 2017, 05:44:05 PM |
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It certainly still has a lot of hype.
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January 09, 2017, 07:51:33 PM |
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I think there is a potencial that ethereum will be the same as bitcoin if you remember if what is the price of bitcoin in 2013 i think its start $10 and hits $1k in few months so in ethereum i think it can be happen for now they have slow adoption that i think they need more merchant and site are accepting ethereum so that ethereum can be push to increase the value because it will become in demand.
agreed! Ethereum might have been stagnating, but you never know when the next rise is gonna come. I ahve not given up hope yet, quite the contrary, I believe that ethereum will increase in popularity. I mean let's not forget that it still has the 2nd largest market cap after bitcoin - that's huge.
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January 10, 2017, 12:13:04 AM |
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if they didn't get rich from it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) How dare anyone prosper! If I can't have it, nobody can!
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January 10, 2017, 06:21:55 AM |
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if they didn't get rich from it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) How dare anyone prosper! If I can't have it, nobody can! There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project.
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January 10, 2017, 10:50:33 AM |
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if they didn't get rich from it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) How dare anyone prosper! If I can't have it, nobody can! There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project. Do you follow Classic Ethereum? Because that's what they love.
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January 10, 2017, 02:17:02 PM |
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if they didn't get rich from it ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) How dare anyone prosper! If I can't have it, nobody can! There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project. ETH wasn't hacked. The ETC CRIMINAL COIN are doing just that, profiting off the hard work of the original ETH.
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January 10, 2017, 02:29:26 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project.
Nothing was hacked. Someone played smarter by the smart contract rules than the rest of the gullible and greedy participants, rules which were different than what the DAO creators claimed about the rules, but those that hadn't understood the rules that way, decided to deny this person his gains, and decided to turn back the clock so that his transactions were denied. That was the end of the concept of smart contract: in the end, people vote over whether the contract should follow its rules, or whether you are denied your transactions when they don't like the outcome. A small part of the chain continued to play by the rules (ETC), but most ETH users preferred visibly the "vote contract" over the "smart contract". This put somewhat of a bummer on the ultimate Turing Complete Unstoppable Smart Contract platform, which Ethereum pretended, one day, to be, because it was shown that in the end, a few people vote over whether you can keep the outcome of a contract or not depending on whether they thought that it was "just" or not. So in the end, this actually signed the end of the very concept of smart, unstoppable contract of which the first big application was simply stopped and turned out not to be smart.
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January 10, 2017, 03:22:57 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project.
Nothing was hacked. Someone played smarter by the smart contract rules than the rest of the gullible and greedy participants, rules which were different than what the DAO creators claimed about the rules, but those that hadn't understood the rules that way, decided to deny this person his gains, and decided to turn back the clock so that his transactions were denied. That was the end of the concept of smart contract: in the end, people vote over whether the contract should follow its rules, or whether you are denied your transactions when they don't like the outcome. A small part of the chain continued to play by the rules (ETC), but most ETH users preferred visibly the "vote contract" over the "smart contract". This put somewhat of a bummer on the ultimate Turing Complete Unstoppable Smart Contract platform, which Ethereum pretended, one day, to be, because it was shown that in the end, a few people vote over whether you can keep the outcome of a contract or not depending on whether they thought that it was "just" or not. So in the end, this actually signed the end of the very concept of smart, unstoppable contract of which the first big application was simply stopped and turned out not to be smart. You're nothing more than a criminal apologist. The DAO wasn't set for it to be exploited as it was by the thief. And you know that.
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January 10, 2017, 03:41:55 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with someone becoming rich from a successful endeavour. However when a project gets hacked and peoples investment stolen then you have to ask whether it is ethical for someone to profit off said project.
Nothing was hacked. Someone played smarter by the smart contract rules than the rest of the gullible and greedy participants, rules which were different than what the DAO creators claimed about the rules, but those that hadn't understood the rules that way, decided to deny this person his gains, and decided to turn back the clock so that his transactions were denied. That was the end of the concept of smart contract: in the end, people vote over whether the contract should follow its rules, or whether you are denied your transactions when they don't like the outcome. A small part of the chain continued to play by the rules (ETC), but most ETH users preferred visibly the "vote contract" over the "smart contract". This put somewhat of a bummer on the ultimate Turing Complete Unstoppable Smart Contract platform, which Ethereum pretended, one day, to be, because it was shown that in the end, a few people vote over whether you can keep the outcome of a contract or not depending on whether they thought that it was "just" or not. So in the end, this actually signed the end of the very concept of smart, unstoppable contract of which the first big application was simply stopped and turned out not to be smart. You're nothing more than a criminal apologist. The DAO wasn't set for it to be exploited as it was by the thief. And you know that. What? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ETC or ETH, I don't really care what a user decides to buy. There is no evidence whatsoever of deliberate wrongdoing by Ethereum Foundation. None. If you participate in smart contracts, you have to take on board risk. There are no guarantees (though you may find another smart contract that will underwrite your risk). A hacker exploited an oversight in the code and ran off with contract participants' money. If you participate in a contract, thems the risks. I hated the DAO. I still hate it. It stole too much attention from Ethereum. I'm glad it's over. People are much more security conscious now. People are much more wary about where they send their tokens to. Ethereum is now stronger than ever. Classic is an increasing irrelevance - they have fallen far behind development and if it wasn't for the DAO "opportunity" ETC wouldn't exist. Classic is full of nutters too. It's a useful skip for Ethereum to blame ETC or associate people they don't like with Classic.
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January 10, 2017, 04:27:45 PM |
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ETH is popular altcoin, it is NR.2 after Bitcoin, altcoin with a lot of users - it is very important, when you considering buy/sale. ETH price can go up, see time graphs here - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/. This time problem can be - what would be the profit, if you buy ETH now and sale later, let say after 3 months. But we want to get rich in here. The coin may have a good marketcap, but at the end of the day you need a high price on the asset, and ETH doesn't look like an asset that is even designed to give massive gains due his inflationary nature, and the fact that is not an ideal way to store money long term because of his technology being too risky (turing complete is a big mistake to store coins long term). So this makes me thing ETH will never see massive prices like BTC..
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January 10, 2017, 06:15:56 PM |
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ETH is popular altcoin, it is NR.2 after Bitcoin, altcoin with a lot of users - it is very important, when you considering buy/sale. ETH price can go up, see time graphs here - https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/. This time problem can be - what would be the profit, if you buy ETH now and sale later, let say after 3 months. But we want to get rich in here. The coin may have a good marketcap, but at the end of the day you need a high price on the asset, and ETH doesn't look like an asset that is even designed to give massive gains due his inflationary nature, and the fact that is not an ideal way to store money long term because of his technology being too risky (turing complete is a big mistake to store coins long term). So this makes me thing ETH will never see massive prices like BTC.. If you want to get rich quick, Ethereum is not for you. Try one of the penny stocks with low liquidity. You might be able to fool someone there.
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