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March 12, 2017, 03:31:40 AM
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i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

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I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.
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March 12, 2017, 04:06:52 AM
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i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy


I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.
That means you need to stop that method, it's really painful when you lose especially using that method as it can easily wipe out your entire bankroll.
I tried it from time to time but with small amount only because I do not want to repeat the same mistakes in the past again where I got greedy and very confident that this betting method would work.

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March 12, 2017, 03:41:29 PM
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I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.
If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.
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March 12, 2017, 03:53:22 PM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

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March 12, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur
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March 12, 2017, 07:20:48 PM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur

I think martingale is better used for games like dice where it is completely a game of chance. Sports betting seems to have some skill involved or at least a way to research the teams/opponents.
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March 12, 2017, 07:26:46 PM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur

I think martingale is better used for games like dice where it is completely a game of chance. Sports betting seems to have some skill involved or at least a way to research the teams/opponents.

Martingale strategy could be used for dice, but it is still going to result in a loss over time. There is no way to beat the system except for getting lucky or quitting while you are ahead. I've tried martingale and variations of it as well.
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March 13, 2017, 01:56:18 AM
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I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.
If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.

There are incidents that people even hit over 30 continuous reds which are almost double what you have a fixed the limit for 17 reds. In this method, you should be very careful because it is probably fair game and you can't estimate how many reds can get continuously unless if you're ready to stop your game after 17 continuous losses and take the losses.
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March 13, 2017, 04:32:32 AM
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I know how it is hard to make profits in gambling, we are willing to try everything, ways that can help us to win and there is no wrong in hoping. For me, having a big bank roll is required if you really want to play in a long run and make some profits whatever happens. This system can work but not as always.

It's for real, we know that there are a lot of ways,tips and strategies that are coming out just give us bigger chance of win. I want to support with what you said, if you'll use martingale it is still not enough to get some good win on it because you will probably end up fast when you don't have a bigger and good amount of bankroll.
Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.

Yes, that's what we need upon using martingale. Because there are people no doubt that are experiencing good results upon using martingale strategy. But I know that it is not happening for the most of us and those lucky guys that are using this strategy are very few. And still gambling will always a luck and skill base game where it's hard to predict when you'll be one of the winner.

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March 15, 2017, 10:56:21 PM
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But if we consider gambling just a luck game (98% luck game), any strategy will lead us to the bankrrupcy, no?

Martingale or any other method you use to bet, sooner or later you will lose your balance, on long term it's impossible to beat the house. Sometimes one or another gambler claims to win on long term, but I'm not really sure about this.
The fact is you cannot measure your luck and you cannot even determine when it will stay when you feel you are lucky, when luck comes to us we should know that it's only temporary and that is why sometimes we win if we are discipline too. Martingale is a from of bankroll management and like any other forms, it will not help you to win but your ability to select games and predict it right most of the time will.

you don't need to measure your luck to be able to win. you just need to be lucky and have luck on your side.
and in martingale system you can never have luck on your side because you are playing against the house with a house edge and that means the edge is giving your luck to the house instead and makes them win specially in the long run.
i don't get it , what do you mean about the edge is giving your luck to the house? it's clearly luck just an illusion that can't proven it's existence it's just my opinion by the way, and also pretty clear that martingale have been studied would never work with the limited bankroll , it's means there's no way you can get profit with this martingale betting system.
with a huge bankroll and patience to keep it little even you are tempted to try much bigger stake will allow you to extend your chances to earn some profits, but like what many said its luck that will make you a huge one, and most of the time even you really try it hard martingale will still fails you if you dont know when to stop.
huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

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March 15, 2017, 11:12:46 PM
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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak.  That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings.  If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.



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March 16, 2017, 03:06:12 AM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur
Really disagree with your opinion mate. Actually martingale strategy is better to use in sports betting rather than other games, especially dice (You will lose all of your money immediatelly). Have you tried to analyze in sportbetting before? The result still depends from luck, but you have higher potential winnings when you feel your analyze is good. It's not about how faster you can see the result, but more about how big your potential winnings in gambling.
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March 16, 2017, 03:23:38 AM
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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak.  That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings.  If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.
well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed  up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.
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March 16, 2017, 10:13:10 AM
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Matingale will only give us a negative experience in gambling if it's not use with proper timing, there are games where we can effective employ this method, games such as sports betting because we can analyze it prior to putting our bets unlike dice where there is a house edge.
Games with house edge does not require a betting method but luck, if you are lucky winning comes easy regardless of the method.
It still doesn't work. House Edge very little effect on why martingale is viable or not.
All bets averages out to the house edge in the long run, but you will may not see it in time.
It is the mathematical formula behind this method which is flawed to begin with.
I didn't meet any sport bettors who by using martingale + analyze cracked the perfect way to break the system...

There is a thread here that uses martingale on a sports betting.  You can find it in this section.  The only effective strategy for martingale is to quit or force stop when you won after several losses.  Playing martingale for a very long time will only make you lose all of your bankroll.  A proper strategy must be use in every method to be able to make the best out of this method.

IMO using martiangle on sport betting is not worth to try since the match has unexpected result even they are experience for predicting the result.
Martiangle should be fit on game like poker or dice which enable to see the result faster and respond your act after the result occur
Really disagree with your opinion mate. Actually martingale strategy is better to use in sports betting rather than other games, especially dice (You will lose all of your money immediatelly). Have you tried to analyze in sportbetting before? The result still depends from luck, but you have higher potential winnings when you feel your analyze is good. It's not about how faster you can see the result, but more about how big your potential winnings in gambling.


I agree there is some thread of sportsbetting here using a martingale system.  I think it is an NBA games.  And there is a proof that martingle works best on it.  Since it is affected by data and analyzing stats, there is a possibility that this martingale method will works best. Just one right prediction and you will end up with a profit.



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March 16, 2017, 10:19:44 AM
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Martingale system is easy to play, double the bet amount when you lose, it is too thrilled, but easy to be broke. I like Fabonacci system, which is proven profitable if you have decent strategy.
Now what is fabonacci system is it something new  or maybe I never heard of. But I have tried martingale system but I don't think in general I have won so much from it , basically I don't there is any sort of method which can help you always win in gambling as it is basically luck if it works for one they will tell this method works but basically it's just luck.
It's Fibonacci system, mathematical system. Here we need more calculations to use this strategy in gambling. But this is not user-friendly, and it is not more popular like martingale system. Very less people use this method in card games or roulette games. I heard this method but never used it. I don't understand how it will work, so I have not tried this method. If any know this method, please explain in detail it will help people to make some money in gambling.

Ok now that's a bit different method but at end of the day i never really care for all these methods as i still and will believe in future that gambling is pure luck no matter how many calculations we do and what strategy we use. Plus i wouldn't even care for this strategy because i mostly gamble on dice sites and sometimes blackjack.
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Martingale system is easy to play, double the bet amount when you lose, it is too thrilled, but easy to be broke. I like Fabonacci system, which is proven profitable if you have decent strategy.
Now what is fabonacci system is it something new  or maybe I never heard of. But I have tried martingale system but I don't think in general I have won so much from it , basically I don't there is any sort of method which can help you always win in gambling as it is basically luck if it works for one they will tell this method works but basically it's just luck.
It's Fibonacci system, mathematical system. Here we need more calculations to use this strategy in gambling. But this is not user-friendly, and it is not more popular like martingale system. Very less people use this method in card games or roulette games. I heard this method but never used it. I don't understand how it will work, so I have not tried this method. If any know this method, please explain in detail it will help people to make some money in gambling.

Ok now that's a bit different method but at end of the day i never really care for all these methods as i still and will believe in future that gambling is pure luck no matter how many calculations we do and what strategy we use. Plus i wouldn't even care for this strategy because i mostly gamble on dice sites and sometimes blackjack.
This is right theres no method that is designed to work for longer terms thats why most gamblers do play everyday and keeps on formulating or seeking for new methods that do work or profitable on playing gambling but sadly on reality most of them or all are busted on the end which is not new on gambling world. Martingale is just a common method that have been used in the past up to now.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak.  That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings.  If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.
well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed  up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit

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March 16, 2017, 11:32:08 AM
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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak.  That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings.  If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.
well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed  up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit
Using bot does not involve emotion at all but still we are not successful with this method, it will only prove that there is no guaranteed method to win in gambling especially when you are playing in games where house edge exist. I'm not new to that system as when I was a newbie I was also curious and tried the method, but unfortunately I failed that's why I will say that it's not working for longer gambling activity.

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huge bankroll still has a limit , so it would still never work to earn profit . at some point you got a losing streaks and that time the whole bankroll you have just gone in a couple seconds, martingale betting system was never ever be a good strategy it's even the worst strategy to sucks your money faster in regret. even you know when to stop , when you do martingale continuously in the next days , it's useless.

There is no otherway but to do a forced stop whenever you win after a long losing streak.  That is the best strategy for martingale in order to book a winnings.  If we keep on going with this method without stopping, then we can just find our bankroll emptied since martingale is disastrous in the long run.
well if you can manage to quit after maybe hitting 3 times might possible to earn little coming from this system because staying for a long period will really messed  up with your bankroll, better to be contented with small winnings than to lose everything you've got.

this assuming that you can win many times in a row, but the worst thing arrive when you lose and you want to keep betting because you want at least one win, no strategy work at that point, it's you against the system and your emotions will kill your profit
Having three conswcutive times of winning in gambling is hard and very unexpected to happen .Well it also happens but if you are a lucky person that day .The system is also depends for the games like sportsbetting which the result is based on live or real sport winner. Martingle stratedgy is hard if it is not fit to the kind of gambling.
Assurance is wehn you win take your caital and some profit  .and play only small amount of your previous winning.


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I already tried to play with martingale but to be honest i don't gain profit instead i lose them all i tried to follow and also analyze the game after making the 6 straight lose trying to cool on betting to see your friend that you didn't give up on betting after loosing my bankroll i never tried playing with martingale im much more better to follow what i want in betting.
If you are having a bigger balance then you should win if you are playing according to your bank roll. I used to play martingale with a good balance and i am never in a loss because all my calculations are up to the point so that i do not bust even if hit 17 reds in 2x and if i hit the 17 red points i will still recover but my profit will take a hit.

Yes is what I'm thinking as well. You need to have a bigger balance to order to maximize this system. Because if you have only a small bankroll, you will surely lost everything. I tried to used this as well, but since I only have a small bankroll, it never materialized in my end. So I came into conclusion that to lessen the risk of losing everything in the long run, having a huge bankroll will help even you if have a losing streak and recover it one you take a hit after a successive lost.

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