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January 21, 2017, 05:22:54 PM Last edit: February 03, 2017, 09:41:22 PM by sampsonite |
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Hi folks;
This will be my first post - and my last post. As I am a believer in bitcoin I am also a believer in my anonymity. I'm also a gambler. I went and tried depositing and withdrawing at about 20-30 different bitcoin casinos to test out their claims. Almost all bitcoin casinos will claim instant withdrawals, but only a handful deliver. There's also a huge list of bitcoin casinos that will simply keep your deposit once you win a wager. The following is my personal experience with these casinos. Your mileage may very.
Casino name / Deposit-withdrawal size / Deposit instant /Withdrawal instant / Anonymous, e-mail, or ID required / Other notes or problems
Good casinos:
bitvest.io - 1.0BTC / Yes / Yes / Love it. Totally recommend, this site processes large withdrawals in a truly instant fashion, we made a big win and withdraw 1.5 BTC instantly. Bitsler.com - 0.050BTC / No (1 confirmation) / Yes (automated) / Truly anonymous / Highly recommend bitcoinvideocasino.com - 0.050BTC / No / Yes / Anonymous / Nothing but good things to say about this site. nitrogensports.eu - 0.500BTC / No (full confirm) / Very fast (unsure if auto or manual) / Truly anonymous / Overall this is what I would like to see from bitcoin casinos. Hopefully they don't ever go out of business. Lots of games and sportsbook, truly anonymous, pays out very very quickly (I can't tell if it's manual or automated to be honest it's very quick). coinroyale.com - 0.400BTC / No / Automated or very fast manual / Truly anonymous / This casino is too small and new otherwise I would have rated it #1 above nitrogen. No hassle deposit and withdrawal and truly anonymous. bitcoinpenguin.com - 0.850BTC / Yes / No (manual) / E-mail only / High recommend (so far) these guys run the same software as other shadier casinos (the mbit casino and bitcasino.io) but so far they haven't reneged on any wagers and payout very quickly albeit manually. sportsbetting.ag - 1.0BTC / No / No (48 hours) / Fullz but don't verify / Recommend so far. So far they have processed withdrawals in large amounts without requiring ID verification but YMMV. If you want no risk then stay with real bitcoin casinos like bitvest and bitsler and the likes.
Questionable casinos:
jetwin.ps - 0.400BTC - No / Yes (automatic?) / Anonymous / This casino deposit/cashout was hassle free and it's truly anonymous, but the sportsbook is always under construction and the game selection is very limited. 1xbit.com - 0.80BTC / No / No (manual) / E-mail only / 1x rollover requirement is silly. I do not claim ANY bonuses and I NEVER claim any bonuses. Also this place just feels shady like it will eventually go out of business for some reason. Betchain.com - 0.400BTC / Yes / No (manual) / Truly anonymous / When you win small wagers, they payout quick. But when you win a big wager, suddenly they have a 3x rollover requirement. They said they will waive the 3x rollover requirement for a 10% fee but when you tell them that you approve the 10% fee they just ignore your e-mail and reply back that there is a 3x rollover requirement. So in other words I would not recommend this casino as 3x rollover requirement is ridiculous. (Mind you I did NOT claim ANY bonuses and NEVER claim any bonuses). UPDATE after contacting chat, they agreed to deduct 10% from my account and they processed the transaction. It was very fast. Upgrading this casino to questionable. Still, I would recommend avoiding and use one of the really anonymous sites and not this quasi-traditional sportsbook as they will change up the rules when you win.
Bad casinos:
Playamo.com - 0.200BTC / No (1 confirmation) / No (manual) / No - ID required for withdrawal / Not recommended they will require your full ID even for small withdrawals. mbitcasino.com - 0.400BTC / Yes / No (manual) / Anonymous / Deposits are instant. But when you win a larger wager, they reneg on the bet and cancel your withdrawal and tell you that any wagers that are won prior to the deposit receiving 6/6 confirms will be reneged. I have no idea why a casino would allow wagers and then cancel them, there's no excuse for this and they go straight to the bad casino list. They should just credit your account until it's time to wager. fun-casino.com - 0.500BTC / Yes / No (manual) / E-mail only / Does not ever send a payout. SCAM SCAM SCAM. Support does not reply to requests to give me back my money. Avoid this site at all costs. anonymous-casino.com - 0.800BTC / Yes / No (manual) / E-mail only / SCAM site. Closes your account when you win any wagers and keeps all your BTC. Avoid this site at all costs. Note this site is from Croatia so I am also adding all Croatia based casinos to my bad list. 4grinz.com - Croatia based partner of anonymous-casino? avoid like the black plague, you have beed warned. cryptogames.io - Croatia based you have been warned. (Not to be confused with crypto-games.net which is awesome) bitcasino.io - 2.0BTC / Yes / No (manual) / Full ID required before wagering / Bitcasino seems to respect your privacy for small wagers and process withdrawal without ID verify, but for larger wins they actual freeze your whole account prior to allowing wagers and will require full ID verification. after ID verification they stop responding to e-mails. recommend avoiding this place and the sister site at sportsbet.io unless you are a micro-better and don't mind if your account is frozen and funds confiscated.
Promising casinos
That I forgot to take notes on. These casinos represent the future of bitcoin gaming in my opinion.
bitvest.io rollin.io bitdice.me bitsler.com pocketdice.info bustabit.com crypto-games.net games.bitcoin.com bitrevolver.net kingdice.com etc. there are more
Not tested but want to test
fortunejack.com betcoin.ag (reported as scam check internet reports) 7bitcasino cloudbet directbet.eu primedice bitexo.com vegascasino.io sportsbet.io etc. there are more
Conclusion and advice
In today's era there is no need to be handing over your full ID and selfie to casinos to play, this is silly. Be sure to make small test deposits, and increase your deposits and build trust with your casino of choice. If a casino asks for your full ID, run! If a casino doesn't process your BTC withdrawals within 1 hour, run! Some traditional sportsbooks and casinos are embracing bitcoin (Nitrogen, Fortunejack, etc.) while a new age of truly anonymous and instant bitcoin casinos are here (Bitsler, Bitcoinvideocasino.com, crypto-games.net, kingdice.com, etc.).
So, if you need deep games and sports wagering you will have to use a traditional sportsbook that has bolted-on bitcoin (with the exception of Nitrogen which has it going on). If you just want dice, roulette or other video gambling you definitely need to hit one of these newer non-bookie associated sites like bitsler, kingdice, etc. etc.
I apologize if this post violates any sort of rules, but what I found was that most of the posts on these forums regarding these casinos were either missing or inaccurate or things have changed. I wanted to try to help other gamblers avoid the hassles (and even sometimes ripoffs) of dealing with the more difficult casinos. I wanted everyone to know there is no longer any reason to put up with bullshit bookie tactics such as : high rollover requirements, never-ending ID verification checks, and scams.
Surely there are other good casinos and we look forward to your suggestions too.
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1982dre
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January 21, 2017, 06:49:19 PM |
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No PrimeDice?
I have played a lot on bitcoin penguin few years ago and it was good then. So they are still good ? Nice job if them.
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angrybirdy
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January 21, 2017, 07:07:50 PM |
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Nice list.
It's pretty common to see people put together stuff like this, and then end up losing interest or alternatively start to promote the sites that pay the most either directly or through affiliate programs.
I wonder if there's a market for a sort of unbiased "bitcoin gambling wiki" ?
How will it be unbiased if it is a market? A market needs funding, funding comes from investors, investors get the worth of their investment. Although from time-to-time you can run into some unbiased post here, but never did I imagine a wiki. Rhavar it pains me not to see bustabit in this list. But maybe author is unbiased and choose freely.
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January 21, 2017, 07:26:54 PM |
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Thanks for such solid review sampsonite! Kudos Always nice to hear from experienced players as you have tried 20-30 bitcoin casinos and decided to leave your opinion.
While we are not a classic casino, our goal is to provide highly anonymous, provably fair and fun place to play for people around the world with "on-chain" style. It's not sure if you would post again under your username or not, but we would be glad if you could have a look at our website as well and leave an honest feedback. We are striving to build the game around players, so please, you are welcome.
~BitWAB Team~ Be the winner!
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January 21, 2017, 08:05:23 PM |
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cryptogames.io - Croatia based you have been warned. (Not to be confused with crypto-games.net which is awesome)
Can you explain to me and rest of us Croats what does this "Croatia based you have been warned" mean?
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January 21, 2017, 08:45:17 PM |
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Under bad casinos you can add: btc-casino and starcoin. Both use ripped off versions of Novomatic slots and likely rip players off as well.
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January 22, 2017, 08:16:34 AM |
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While I agree that anonimity is a good thing when playing on gambling sites, you have to consider that it is probably not something the casinos would want to do.
The ones that are asking for id are probably complying to local regulations and laws, which means that in case of disputes, it is also much easier to find out where to go to.
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January 22, 2017, 08:25:12 AM |
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i don't see you give a definition of anonymity, it has such a wide range of definition. from what i can read in your post you mainly consider them anonymous if they don't ask for ID but that is not all. a truly anonymous casino is the one that apart from not asking for any ID,... doesn't keep any logs such as loging your IP address.
i don't know any case that someone would want that but whenever there is talk of anonymity keeping logs is the main issue.
and also if you want more anonymity then they should offer TOR mirrors for extra anonymity. again i can't think of any reason why anyone would want this. and besides all the casinos that i have seen so far which were working with bitcoin never ask for any ID and Email is optional and good for increasing security.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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thebatletbet
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January 22, 2017, 08:43:18 AM |
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youre write in list not only casino but sport betting too in casino casino.directbet.eu is good site, open loyality siste, every bet you can get cashback, minimum bet is very low too only 1000 doge coin and equal and instant payment in withdraw every request confirm email, youre payment can receive
if sport betting directbet.eu , is full instant payment, without register after match finish payment sending, so instant payment, and no minimum bet you can bet any want
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January 22, 2017, 09:04:36 AM |
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cryptogames.io - Croatia based you have been warned. (Not to be confused with crypto-games.net which is awesome)
Can you explain to me and rest of us Croats what does this "Croatia based you have been warned" mean? I think it's because of his bad experience on anonymous-games thats why all croatia based casino is on the bad casino list. Based from my experience playing on one of the croatia based casino (4grinz) they're an alright casino for me haven't experience any issue with them.
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January 22, 2017, 05:15:09 PM Last edit: January 22, 2017, 06:09:59 PM by DirectDice |
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January 22, 2017, 05:33:09 PM |
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I think, chain-bet.com should be included in the list. - It is on-chain and hence completely anonymous. - It is an unique game that offers 0% house edge. - It is running since May 30, 2016 without any complaint. Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492457.0
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sartorpc
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January 22, 2017, 08:16:28 PM |
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I believe your list, you didn't post any ref link so, I am going to check all.
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January 22, 2017, 08:31:16 PM |
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DirectBet is the best place for LIVE Bitcoin Sports betting. We offer a huge variety of events and betting options. I though so at a time, but then cloudbet and sportsbet.io came, in no way can you compare the odds to those in live games offered by either of those sportbooks, and cloudbet's collection of games is even bigger than Directbet's, That's just the size whenever you open it compared to DB's. Also the selections are wider, you are even able to play game-by-game in tennis in every tennis game rather than just the winner and loser/set bets in directbet. Even the promotions are of less scale compared to money-backs offered by sportsbet.io... Anyway regarding casino's, I definitely like fortunejack platform, seems very smooth and been around for a long time...
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January 23, 2017, 01:35:29 AM |
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Nice list.
It's pretty common to see people put together stuff like this, and then end up losing interest or alternatively start to promote the sites that pay the most either directly or through affiliate programs.
I wonder if there's a market for a sort of unbiased "bitcoin gambling wiki" ?
I think the problem is also that it's tough to really qualify which casinos requires ID. I am considering to make a list that simply mentions KYC in TOS. But then again, there might be sites that list KYC in their TOS just to cover themselves (from potential law enforcements), while not requiring this from (practically all)/normal players. Of course I could test sites (like OP), but that is still just 1 experience and might be different with other amounts. Same for other situations like "instant withdrawals", I know plenty of sites that are "normally" instant, but of course if HW is empty it can take more time. So it wouldn't be fair to judge it on a few experiences. OP's list seems like a decent start though
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January 23, 2017, 01:42:32 AM |
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DirectBet is the best place for LIVE Bitcoin Sports betting. We offer a huge variety of events and betting options. I though so at a time, but then cloudbet and sportsbet.io came, in no way can you compare the odds to those in live games offered by either of those sportbooks, and cloudbet's collection of games is even bigger than Directbet's..... Cloudbet is sort of dead. They have a nonexistent support system and if they were to block your money, their reputation does not get affected at all anywhere. @Op, why do you feel jetwin is a questionable casino ? Have played on it and never had any issues in the past.
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January 23, 2017, 07:26:27 AM |
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DirectBet is the best place for LIVE Bitcoin Sports betting. We offer a huge variety of events and betting options. I though so at a time, but then cloudbet and sportsbet.io came, in no way can you compare the odds to those in live games offered by either of those sportbooks, and cloudbet's collection of games is even bigger than Directbet's..... Cloudbet is sort of dead. They have a nonexistent support system and if they were to block your money, their reputation does not get affected at all anywhere. @Op, why do you feel jetwin is a questionable casino ? Have played on it and never had any issues in the past. yupp i even have a little money left there stucked , not recommended at all , better to choose another reliable books like nitrogensports , nitrogen have a great odds in sportsbetting i admit it , but they have a terrible house edge on their casino , i don't like it.
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January 23, 2017, 04:45:10 PM |
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Nice list.
It's pretty common to see people put together stuff like this, and then end up losing interest or alternatively start to promote the sites that pay the most either directly or through affiliate programs.
I wonder if there's a market for a sort of unbiased "bitcoin gambling wiki" ?
I think the problem is also that it's tough to really qualify which casinos requires ID. I am considering to make a list that simply mentions KYC in TOS. But then again, there might be sites that list KYC in their TOS just to cover themselves (from potential law enforcements), while not requiring this from (practically all)/normal players. Of course I could test sites (like OP), but that is still just 1 experience and might be different with other amounts. Same for other situations like "instant withdrawals", I know plenty of sites that are "normally" instant, but of course if HW is empty it can take more time. So it wouldn't be fair to judge it on a few experiences. OP's list seems like a decent start though If big bookie like betfair and bet365 ask me to have verification id, ok i give. If others, is dangerous for us to give id to them , we don't know when they sell our info. NOW private info got price
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January 24, 2017, 03:27:51 AM |
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Nice list.
It's pretty common to see people put together stuff like this, and then end up losing interest or alternatively start to promote the sites that pay the most either directly or through affiliate programs.
I wonder if there's a market for a sort of unbiased "bitcoin gambling wiki" ?
I don’t know if there is a market to profit from it but it is definitely needed some kind of website that gives unbiased reviews about bitcoin casinos because as we know it is very easy to scam people out of their bitcoins.
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January 24, 2017, 04:18:40 AM |
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@OP you can test fortunejack as i have never got any problem with my deposit and withdraw there before. It was almost instant always to withdraw from them and they are quite trusted by the community.
Thanks for making this comparison.
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