BTC Price Question

[viking02]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.


If thats the case, couldn't someone buy on an exchange or site for higher price then sell it on exchange for lower price?  I believe this is arbitrage.  But i assume this isn't possible due to bitcoin price moving so fast by the minute?  Or are the fees a bit too much for this?  Example if you could sell bitcoin for $600 on a site... but another site offers $605, obviously you sell on the 2nd site assuming the selling fees are the same etc.

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[Pearls Before Swine]

No, because there are multiple exchanges and there can be wild variations because of that.  Market forces act separately at each exchange.  The price should be the same across all of them, but it never quite is.  So the preev.com price is a composite, I believe, but if you look at bitstamp it may be different than poloniex or any of the others.  Crazy, eh?

[ipanks]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.


If thats the case, couldn't someone buy on an exchange or site for higher price then sell it on exchange for lower price?  I believe this is arbitrage.  But i assume this isn't possible due to bitcoin price moving so fast by the minute?  Or are the fees a bit too much for this?  Example if you could sell bitcoin for $600 on a site... but another site offers $605, obviously you sell on the 2nd site assuming the selling fees are the same etc.

i think there is no actual price for btc although in many market there is differences with the price. we can do arbitrage trading but we should thinking about the time for sending into another wallet. actually i have this experience in few months ago and i would said that if the network is not heavy load traffic, then arbitrage trading is possible.

[pooya87]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.

bitcoin is not centralized and there is no central place to dictate the price of it to everyone else. the price of bitcoin is determined based on supply and demand, and this only shows itself on places where you can actually buy and sell (supply coins and demand coins). and that place is an exchange service.

also i have to say places like google, coindesk, preev, bitcoinaverage, bitcoincharts, bitcoinwisdom,.... take their prices from exchanges through their API call. for example they take all the prices (5,6 places and then take an average and report that price.

If thats the case, couldn't someone buy on an exchange or site for higher price then sell it on exchange for lower price?  I believe this is arbitrage.  But i assume this isn't possible due to bitcoin price moving so fast by the minute?  Or are the fees a bit too much for this?  Example if you could sell bitcoin for $600 on a site... but another site offers $605, obviously you sell on the 2nd site assuming the selling fees are the same etc.

you can but the difference is rarely that big for you to make any profit this way. the method you are describing is called Arbitrage trading which you can read about more on the internet. but in short it is not possible to do it as you are saying because of the fees, the time it takes,...

and to sell on a site, you don't only look at the price, you also look to see if it is trusted place, if it has the fiat withdrawal/deposit that you want, if it accepts your country,...

[thebatletbet]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.


If thats the case, couldn't someone buy on an exchange or site for higher price then sell it on exchange for lower price?  I believe this is arbitrage.  But i assume this isn't possible due to bitcoin price moving so fast by the minute?  Or are the fees a bit too much for this?  Example if you could sell bitcoin for $600 on a site... but another site offers $605, obviously you sell on the 2nd site assuming the selling fees are the same etc.

bitcoin price can't standard and same price in all exchanger
so you can calculate how long deposit withdraw between exchanger, trading fee and withdraw fee
you can arbitrage youre bitcoin you can easy to take profit

[Gotottack]

You will not profit much if you did do arbitrage with bitcoin as the fees will eat up your profits. The differences in the prices from exchanges are just minute and not worth the effort of doing arbitrage in them. Also, their prices will eventually just match. I think there is indeed no actual price basis for it, it just depends on who you talk to.

[TimeTeller]

bitcoin is not centralized and there is no central place to dictate the price of it to everyone else. the price of bitcoin is determined based on supply and demand, and this only shows itself on places where you can actually buy and sell (supply coins and demand coins). and that place is an exchange service.

also i have to say places like google, coindesk, preev, bitcoinaverage, bitcoincharts, bitcoinwisdom,.... take their prices from exchanges through their API call. for example they take all the prices (5,6 places and then take an average and report that price.

you can but the difference is rarely that big for you to make any profit this way. the method you are describing is called Arbitrage trading which you can read about more on the internet. but in short it is not possible to do it as you are saying because of the fees, the time it takes,...

and to sell on a site, you don't only look at the price, you also look to see if it is trusted place, if it has the fiat withdrawal/deposit that you want, if it accepts your country,...

I agree with pooya87. BTC is not centralized so it's up to the btc exchanges how they will respond with the supply & demand of the BTC at that moment.

A good  reference site for the Arbitrage trading is - http://www.coinrates.info/

But you need to think & decide fast, else you will lose that transaction!

[marketone]

There is different price in all the exchanges because there is minimal difference in between them, from all these exchange an average will be taken into consideration but i will follow preev.com site. Where as it is different value from exchanges because in exchange will have an higher price when compared to update sites.

[jacaf01]

Yes, it is possible to take advantage of the variation in price of BTC across exchanges but this kind of trade is getting difficult to make recently, but you need a good bot to do that for you, have seen such arbitrage disappeared in matter of second.

[vnvizow]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.


If thats the case, couldn't someone buy on an exchange or site for higher price then sell it on exchange for lower price?  I believe this is arbitrage.  But i assume this isn't possible due to bitcoin price moving so fast by the minute?  Or are the fees a bit too much for this?  Example if you could sell bitcoin for $600 on a site... but another site offers $605, obviously you sell on the 2nd site assuming the selling fees are the same etc.

It's kinda like stocks if you think about it. The general price is there but the actual selling and buying prices are decided by the people who are buying and selling at that exact point. So if people lost faith in btc like a few months ago with the Chinese stuff going down then the price will drop, whereas if confidence in the coin is strong (Indians buying in after the currency ban or the Greece and Cyprus spikes) then people will be willing to buy and sell at higher prices.

[Red Fish]

Actual Bitcoin price you can check here - http://preev.com/, it is best Bitcoin price up to date website. Plus you can also check Litecoin, Peercoin and Doge price.

[Dmitry.Vastov]

Every exchange have different locations and different price. Thats depends on demand in your region to determine what will be the price. But you can see price.movement of bitcoin in every exchange on coinmarketcap.com. You should try visit there. I saw an exchange and i compared it to other. Sometimes theres $10 difference and sometimes even more.

[digaran]

$780 up to $980 and just now I realized the importance of this $200 which bitcoin price fluctuates around, ever since I fell in love with BTC there was always opportunities to profit from this differences and fluctuations but then it was around $15 up to $90 that you could easily earn profit just from buying low and selling high.

If you've got coins in A exchange and price is $923 just sell them if you see price is at $905 in B exchange just buy them, this method is useful and beneficial only in large volumes and with using trusted services, other than that is just a futile attempt because people with big pockets having access to both bitcoin and fiat in several exchanges are doing this for living.

[JeffBrad12]

You have had the main point before. and actually, the arbitrage method is not efficient. because it's not worth at the time.
It seems like you must wait for 25 - 30 minutes for your transaction and you can assume how the market already walking at the range time.

[aardvark15]

The price is constantly changing just like stocks and mutual fund prices change except that with Bitcoin, there is no market closing.

[deadsilent]

Every exchange are different on price because of locations. Its normal. The price is changing due to demand of bitcoin. The more demand, the higher the price. Me, i always look at bitstamp for the price. Because its on my mycelium wallet. Sometimes i see -$20 difference between other exchange.

[GreenBits]

In exchanger or trading site Bitcoin price is not the same because they based the price to their volume and demand.The more the demands the higher the price.But I using bitstamp rate because this is the rate that my wallet using.

[noel2123]

Just like a on tradings, we cannot all predict whether the value of bitcoin will rise, or will go down. We cannot see when will the value of a bitcoin will be going up or down. What you are saying if we can just trade and trade your bitcoins, we can earn, but if you are doing this, in exact time, exact period of time, the bitcoin value moves, then you cannot see what will happen.

[Drnice]

the price varies along side the the demand, which states clear that if the demand is high, the price will rise but if the demand is less the price will fall to suite the present state of the people who are in need of it in that site and that is the major reason of the different price in different sites. But on the other hand, the two parties who are for the exchange, I.e the buyer and the seller will have to go into agreement on a particular price to sell and to buy, so this don't have anything to do with the price of that particular site.

[densuj]

What is the actual btc price?  Is there a standard site that uses the btc price?  I read some ppl use the google rate.  Others use coinbase... kraken, bitstamp etc.  I notice the price for bitstamp for bitcoin seems to be the lowest.

I think there are no standard markets be used for bitcoin's price
it is depend on demand and supply and depend on where we are residents
will follow bitcoin's price on the markets in the countries.