UFC 210: Cormier vs Johnson Info and Prediction Thread

[tokeweed]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.

Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?

Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?

Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.

There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

That was due to the adrenaline dump.  A lot of people fail to put that in the equation when they say or write their opinions.  All they say is what they saw in the octagon without thinking of the fact that adrenaline dumps do exist and affects a fighter's performance in a big way.  On a normal day, Cormier would throw Anderson Silva around like a rag doll.

Anyway here's an oldie (a bit) but goodie.  Enjoy!    Cormier looks leaner on this one.

UFC 210 Free Fight: Daniel Cormier vs Dan Henderson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkVUPUcbJfw

[Clement Kaliyar]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

[thejaytiesto]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

Anthony Johnson is a dead man walking as soon as he makes a mistake and gets taken down by Daniel Cormier. If things go as they should, I think DC is going to be able to dodge AJ's striking for the first couple of rounds. I think it's going to be a bit boring just like the Jon Jones fight. DC fights very slow against good strikers, he will be cautious, wait for the mistake and go to the ground then it's game over.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

@thejaytiesto everyone seems to predict the match in favor of Daniel Cormier because they know the blue print on what Cormier will be doing in this rematch and what many do not understand is that Antony Johnson was preparing to fight Jon Jones and Cormier was a sudden replacement and this time Johnson is preparing solely for Cormier and that is the reason i am interested to see this match because i wanted to see how prepared Johnson really is.

[bbc.reporter]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

Anthony Johnson is a dead man walking as soon as he makes a mistake and gets taken down by Daniel Cormier. If things go as they should, I think DC is going to be able to dodge AJ's striking for the first couple of rounds. I think it's going to be a bit boring just like the Jon Jones fight. DC fights very slow against good strikers, he will be cautious, wait for the mistake and go to the ground then it's game over.

You just described the 1st fight between them. AJ, if he is smart must learn from his mistakes. He must not allow himself to be fully controlled on the ground. There are 2 things he can do. Avoid being taken down or improve is ground game.

[tokeweed]

Hey guys, we have a week to go before the event so why not start watching some videos and start to get pumped for it. 

Sometimes it helps watching these videos in deciding on who to bet on.  Krach would say otherwise, but hey...  That's just me.  I like getting pumped before any UFC event as I believe most of the lines the sports books have are mostly efficient anyway.  But there's value from time to time, of course.  The bottom line is, I want to be entertained.

UFC 210 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldkq8tVsJc

[krach]

LIVE in an hour UFC 210 picks
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[pereira4]

It's obvious that Johnson is the better striker but Cormier will ground and pound him into oblivion. An interesting match and we are going to find out who wins this saturday, if im not sleepy I will watch it live.

[TravelMug]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

Anthony Johnson is a dead man walking as soon as he makes a mistake and gets taken down by Daniel Cormier. If things go as they should, I think DC is going to be able to dodge AJ's striking for the first couple of rounds. I think it's going to be a bit boring just like the Jon Jones fight. DC fights very slow against good strikers, he will be cautious, wait for the mistake and go to the ground then it's game over.

You just described the 1st fight between them. AJ, if he is smart must learn from his mistakes. He must not allow himself to be fully controlled on the ground. There are 2 things he can do. Avoid being taken down or improve is ground game.

I hope he learnt from the 1st first fight and adjust. Otherwise, if will be just a replay of the first fight. If Rumble can't KO Cormier in the first or second round, he is toast. His chances of winning will diminish as the round goes by. That will be his strategy go for the KO because we all know that if he gets tired, all is lost and game over.

[sonic212]

maybe I do not like to watch a show like this, but if I look at them and very convincing johnson to win in the UFC, maybe I'm just used to think to guess this match. but we'll see how it goes and the final result for this match.

[notserp]

im big on DC but i should have waited to put my bet in hes at +110 right now fuck lol might have to put more now when the betting limit gets raised

[bbc.reporter]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

Anthony Johnson is a dead man walking as soon as he makes a mistake and gets taken down by Daniel Cormier. If things go as they should, I think DC is going to be able to dodge AJ's striking for the first couple of rounds. I think it's going to be a bit boring just like the Jon Jones fight. DC fights very slow against good strikers, he will be cautious, wait for the mistake and go to the ground then it's game over.

You just described the 1st fight between them. AJ, if he is smart must learn from his mistakes. He must not allow himself to be fully controlled on the ground. There are 2 things he can do. Avoid being taken down or improve is ground game.

I hope he learnt from the 1st first fight and adjust. Otherwise, if will be just a replay of the first fight. If Rumble can't KO Cormier in the first or second round, he is toast. His chances of winning will diminish as the round goes by. That will be his strategy go for the KO because we all know that if he gets tired, all is lost and game over.

You already know the kind of adjustment he needs to do. You said If Rumble can't KO Cormier in the first or second round, he is toast. His chances of winning will diminish as the round goes by.

What AJ needs to do is not to be toast and be calm if he cannot KO Daniel. He also wants to keep his distance versus someone like Daniel.

[tokeweed]

The question still remains.  Is Rumble Johnson fit enough mentally to go toe to toe with Cormier in the championship rounds just in case he doesn't knock the wrestler out early?  My answer:  Maybe.  But I'm not that confident because we have not seen any other fighter put Johnson in a tough situation apart from Cormier.  I think we'll see some similarities in the first fight except Johnson might take a more cautious approach and not get too excited.

Here's Dan Hardy's breakdown of what's coming and a UFC vlog.

UFC 210: Inside the Octagon - Daniel Cormier vs Anthony Johnson 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hij844Zualw

UFC 210 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaKHDLFKTOI

[SaShiRaJaVu]

The question still remains.  Is Rumble Johnson fit enough mentally to go toe to toe with Cormier in the championship rounds just in case he doesn't knock the wrestler out early?  My answer:  Maybe.  But I'm not that confident because we have not seen any other fighter put Johnson in a tough situation apart from Cormier.  I think we'll see some similarities in the first fight except Johnson might take a more cautious approach and not get too excited.

I am sure he is mentally strong and if you look at the fights after the first fight against Cormier you would know that. The main difference i see in this match is that he is preparing for Cormier and before that he was training for Jon Jones so it might be a major difference and Johnson does have a good take down defense as he is a wrestler himself,i might make my decision after seeing the official weigh ins.

[bbc.reporter]

@SaShiRaJaVu. Was he? It looked like AJ was already starting to give up when he saw that he could not KO Daniel early in the 1st fight. I hope he learned from that fight and he should prepare and expect this to reach 5 rounds.

[tokeweed]

Finally we have a breakdown of Gegard Mousasi vs Chris Weidman.  For the most part I think Dan Hardy is trying to imply that this could be a win by Weidman.  Dunno, just my first impression after watching the video.  I'll have to watch it again later.  What do you guys think?

UFC 210: Inside the Octagon - Chris Weidman vs Gegard Mousasi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noCMMhSnOEA

Here's part two of UFC Embedded for 210.  Enjoy! 

UFC 210 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvPrNzRLrDw

[pereira4]

There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.
Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?
Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?
Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.
There are questions about where Cormier is as well.

Antony Johnson does not need five rounds to win the match,but he will be carefull this time around and i am sure he wont spend all his energy in the first round trying to knock him down and remember that Johnson is a wrestler and this time he has trained especially for Cormier and i am sure it wont be the same this time around and with Cormier injured most of the time and has not fought in a long time and age is not helping him either,it is really hard to predict the condition they are in .

Anthony Johnson is a dead man walking as soon as he makes a mistake and gets taken down by Daniel Cormier. If things go as they should, I think DC is going to be able to dodge AJ's striking for the first couple of rounds. I think it's going to be a bit boring just like the Jon Jones fight. DC fights very slow against good strikers, he will be cautious, wait for the mistake and go to the ground then it's game over.

You just described the 1st fight between them. AJ, if he is smart must learn from his mistakes. He must not allow himself to be fully controlled on the ground. There are 2 things he can do. Avoid being taken down or improve is ground game.

I hope he learnt from the 1st first fight and adjust. Otherwise, if will be just a replay of the first fight. If Rumble can't KO Cormier in the first or second round, he is toast. His chances of winning will diminish as the round goes by. That will be his strategy go for the KO because we all know that if he gets tired, all is lost and game over.

You already know the kind of adjustment he needs to do. You said If Rumble can't KO Cormier in the first or second round, he is toast. His chances of winning will diminish as the round goes by.

What AJ needs to do is not to be toast and be calm if he cannot KO Daniel. He also wants to keep his distance versus someone like Daniel.

Problem is if AJ doesn't KO Daniel fast, DC will read his moves and he will be able to get a takeoff down the lane at around 3-4 round. Maybe in 5th round when both are tired AJ can attempt some crazy unexpected KO and hope DC makes a mistake.

[bbc.reporter]

@pereira4. I am positive AJ has learned a lot from their first fight. Dan Hardy outlined it correctly in the Inside the Octagon video posted by tokeweed. AJ will keep his distance and he will avoid doing any dirty boxing with Daniel in the 1st and 2nd rounds. If AJ gets a clean hit he should also try to avoid getting excited and throw too much strikes so that he will not gas out.

Also AJ improved more than Daniel since the first fight.

[tokeweed]

I think the odds moving to Rumble Johnson and away from Cormier, making him the slight underdog is showing to be correct.  Watching the media day face offs, I could see that the champion is a bit overweight and he also looks haggard.  Weight cutting issues perhaps?

UFC 210:  Media Day Face Offs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_tz6bIANHI

[pereira4]

Yep AJ has improved and I expect a good performance but I still think that DC is going to be the best one and win. I think DC vs John Bon Jones 2 is the great heavyweight match that it's missing. I don't think AJ is at the level of being competitive against Bones Jones.