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January 30, 2017, 02:41:13 PM |
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People hold their BTC's and while waiting for BTC price to go up they want to get more, that's why there are so many where to invest threads. The problem is Bitcoin still not recognized by governments and if you lose it legal process would be tough. I don't think return rates are the biggest problem. For investors trust is the main problem. People had hard times with banks and governments before, they don't want to lose their precious coins to some fund which doesn't have any legal status. For funding companies Bitcoin is still too volatile, they can't offer big returns unless they are ponzi schemes. I think the market is still fairly new and open for expanding. We need to see more real/legit funding companies.
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January 30, 2017, 02:46:37 PM |
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This means people have liquid assets, lots of BTC laying around and nothing legit and real to invest.
actually i believe there are lots of people with very small amount of bitcoin they got from faucets or signature campaigns,... and they all want to become millionaires so they look for that kind of investment. and besides when you want to invest, you invest in a business. and as long as you can find a legit business you can make profit. for instance bitmixer.io which is the oldest business that i know of apart from exchanges used to accept investments.
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January 30, 2017, 02:58:01 PM |
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I'm sure all crypto community member wants to make money, but they either don't want to take the risk because many fake investment OR they easily fooled then give up. In fact, many bitcoiner thinks bitcoin as investment itself, so they don't want bother with something risky. 3% profit in a year is too low too many for us, if you have fiat, you could earn more than 3% profit in a year without much risks. Even me would invest my money on stock or deposit which give more profit ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) We would really hesitate to invest our bitcoin nowadays because we all know there are really lots of scam investments out there and if you are careless enough you will surely lose your bitcoin in an instant. Yeah,bitcoin is already considered as an investment and 3% is just too small when we are seeing on the price movement of bitcoin in a year.
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January 30, 2017, 03:08:46 PM |
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have you ever thought about this possibility that maybe people are not so willing to share their secret investment ways to make money, in other words when something works for them they don't share it to keep it all to themselves. or maybe they have nothing at all!
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January 30, 2017, 03:12:38 PM |
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~snip~
So, what s up? Is crypto community so weak and uninterested to make money?
Most of what we have right now are scam sites. In how I see it, legal investing firms are not going to touch bitcoin market yet. It is still too risky to open investment portfolio that involves bitcoin. Some factors that add to the risk are bitcoin volatility, legality , adoption and scalability. Unless these issues are properly addressed, we will not see any bloom in investment firms throwing their money in bitcoin.
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January 30, 2017, 03:25:39 PM |
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Hey guys,
I see every day more and more of these threads asking where to invest BTC emerges. This means people have liquid assets, lots of BTC laying around and nothing legit and real to invest. I m not talking about HYIP and similar scam BS where they promise 3% per day. I m talking about real investments assets, comparable to fiat money options bringing something manageable like 3% a year. There re very few of those.
Is it because crypto owners have become so spoiled and anything below 10% per month is not acceptable to them due to past pumps and dumps of different crypto assets? Is it because of legal issues obtaining BTC? Is it because investment companies do not need money or do not want to tap into this market?
The truth is PEOPLE HAVE GOT MONEY and do not know what to do with it. With fiat, we d have tons of different funds, advisers, firms and so on, LEGIT companies helping you out to invest and differentiate your risk for a fee. True, earning re much more modest compared to yield we ve had in crypto so far. But I always choose sustainability over easy money.
So, what s up? Is crypto community so weak and uninterested to make money?
Bitcoin does not have much credibility invested floor, most of the investment floor is HYIP and ponzi it's not really safe you can count on a certain number of investment floor but that does not mean that it is always safe someday, it will scam
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January 30, 2017, 03:31:16 PM |
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I think there are so many bitcoin investment threads but in reality there only legit investment site is because the people in this community are having a hard time whom to trust! I mean majority of use experienced being scammed so it's hard for us to invest again because we are afraid that we might get scam again!
I am agree. There are so many scammers, so many invitations to make some easy money without doing almost nothing on the Internet. People are just going crazy from all this suggestions and there is no trust at all here. I made my choice about investment - I make bitcoins and put some on side for the future.
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January 30, 2017, 03:42:48 PM |
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Thanks for bringing this important topic on the board. I personally think that it's the matter of evolution and bitcoin is still in user base phase where the intention or the focus in on obtaining more users (looking at macro level) so indirectly the price volatility is promoting some opportunities in trading and hence users are preferring trading these days as compared to other options and thus there is not actual crypto economy yet which can facilitate businesses wholly based on bitcoin but over the period of time, we will see different picture IMO.
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January 30, 2017, 03:48:05 PM |
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I think there are so many bitcoin investment threads but in reality there only legit investment site is because the people in this community are having a hard time whom to trust! I mean majority of use experienced being scammed so it's hard for us to invest again because we are afraid that we might get scam again!
That's it! Most of the possibilities which were/are given to invest your precious bitcoins are with 99% certainty scams! ICOs, cloud mining, loaning platforms and so on! I can only repeat what I always say to my closest friends who bought some bitcoins after some while: "Bitcoin itself is your investment! Check it characteristics and it's infrastructure and then you know it!" Why you wanna risk even more when BTC already is huge risk?!
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January 30, 2017, 04:41:55 PM |
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OP, you make a bloody good point... I wanted to secure some of my bitcoins in some "low risk" investment, and the best I could find, was "Asmoney" which gave me a little interest on idle bitcoins, like bank interest. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) {Disclaimer : I only dumped a small amount there, as a test... and I got a little bit of interest} We want our bitcoins to work for us, without binding them to long-term investments. If we reach Moon, it should be available at a drop of a Dime. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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January 30, 2017, 06:02:52 PM |
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We want our bitcoins to work for us, without binding them to long-term investments.
it's very simple. to 'invest' you have to hand over control of your coins. going on the previous track record of the bitcoin community, there's virtually no one who won't try to steal them from you. if there was a legit way of doing it then we'd see the coinbases of this world offering it. there isn't. so they don't.
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January 30, 2017, 06:12:36 PM |
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It is very obvious there are going to be lesser options to invest in bitcoin because it is such a new concept besides with the possibility of earning big by just holding bitcoin no one want to have their coins tied to investments that produce lets say 5% per year when you can generate more by just holding bitcoin.
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January 30, 2017, 06:24:41 PM |
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That is because if there was a legit solution that popped, there would be so many people flooding it that it would be full in a matter of hours. There is solutions but we simply do not see them.
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January 30, 2017, 06:25:51 PM |
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Problem with open source communities, you asked some questions and answered them yourself, you need to see the successful businesses to follow their example, see how banks are good with earning a high percentage on their money? it's because they lend money with a decent interest rate. If people stop being greedy and enter lending area with low interest expectation they'd earn much more than just holding coins.
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January 30, 2017, 06:29:09 PM |
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That is because if there was a legit solution that popped, there would be so many people flooding it that it would be full in a matter of hours. There is solutions but we simply do not see them.
amen. the appetite for it is massive. anyone offering it would find themselves in change of a few hundred thousand btc in a few days. then they'd probably crack up with the responsibility.
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January 30, 2017, 06:32:58 PM |
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I think there are so many bitcoin investment threads but in reality there only legit investment site is because the people in this community are having a hard time whom to trust! I mean majority of use experienced being scammed so it's hard for us to invest again because we are afraid that we might get scam again!
I totally agree with you that the main problem is TRUST, most of the transactions in crypto space are faceless and when you have bad experience, you are likely to be critical of any other opportunity. I don't believe people are greedy for me a good ROI in a trusted company is enough for me because I prefer a sustainable growth. People coming out to source for investment need to do more to convince potential investors their business is real and can be trusted
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January 30, 2017, 07:02:31 PM |
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So general conclusion is there re no investments cause there re too many scammers and people do not trust each other cause of that.
Well, then we need more policing and regulation which is something crypto s designed to avoid.
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January 30, 2017, 07:06:02 PM |
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Well, then we need more policing and regulation which is something crypto s designed to avoid.
that still wouldn't stop losses. witness the quagmire that is mt gox's afterlife. if the coins are gone then all people are left with are liabilities. what it needs for companies that have already earned trust to offer something. i'm sure they'd love to but there doesn't appear to be any way to do it right now.
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January 30, 2017, 07:14:34 PM |
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I doubt you will find a serious investment opportunity here. It is just not done that way. If you want to actually invest (in the USA) you will want to look into investment portals like https://circleup.com/ . If you are "investing" in anything other than a licensed business then you are just kidding yourself.
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January 30, 2017, 07:16:32 PM |
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You will find many investment sites here who will promise you to give the best returns but the fact is we are not sure where they will follow their promises in long run or not as everyone has got scammed in the past by investing in those sites as majority of them ran away with the funds of people giving nothing in return so people have fear of loosing their investments if they choose a wrong place to invest.
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