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February 04, 2017, 03:35:37 AM
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I thought it a bit strange if a country prohibits foreigners, especially Muslims to visit the country. Huh many people who agree with me. what is the reason Donald trump, ban Muslims entry to the United States. and we know the importance of a sense of religious tolerance.  Shocked thank you

First of all, Donald Trump didn't ban the adherents of a particular religion. He temporarily suspended the immigration from seven countries for a period of 90 days until more effective vetting could be put in to practice. And this suspension is applicable for all the people in those countries. It is not just for the Muslims.

The truth is that rather than the problem being with the "Ban that Trump created" the problem was with the completely free borders concepts that Obama was implementing.  

That is false.  There were increases in deportations and a very long vetting process already in place under what Obama implemented.  Trump just wants to make sure he is happy with it and maybe tweak it.
I don't think that is correct regarding the so-called "Syrians" who had no paperwork or proof of identity.

Were they allowed in with no vetting?
I doubt that they were released without verification. Now the terrorist attacks on America will not. For them the number one target Europe. Muslims and Putin is not satisfied with a United Europe. For America they will take then.
There was no way to vet them, because there was no government infrastructure operating in Syria.  That's what started this whole issue, if I recall correctly.

So yes, they were being let in without vetting, without any background check.  Avoiding the customary system.  Obama and Clinton would have had us like Europe.


Do you have evidence of this?  And, once Trump starts to re-admit Syrian refugees - will this change or just be back to where it was?  Also, how specifically was it different under Bush?  Did he have an executive order that made things different?  If so, which one?  Or was there a law that applied differently that Obama repealed?
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February 04, 2017, 03:38:20 AM
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The Clintons have always been known as ass kissers and they will kotow to anyone who hands them cash. They are not champions of the people that they so claim to be, I for one am happy she didn't win, she is as trustworthy as the devil Himself. Trump will make America great again, Crush ISIS and make bring back American Jobs to the common people.

I hope so.  I mean he talked about having a secret and brilliant plan to crush Isis, but now he wants his staff to come up with one.  Maybe he will just tell them his secret plan is better and use it to crush Isis.
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February 04, 2017, 04:25:44 AM
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I thought it a bit strange if a country prohibits foreigners, especially Muslims to visit the country. Huh many people who agree with me. what is the reason Donald trump, ban Muslims entry to the United States. and we know the importance of a sense of religious tolerance.  Shocked thank you

First of all, Donald Trump didn't ban the adherents of a particular religion. He temporarily suspended the immigration from seven countries for a period of 90 days until more effective vetting could be put in to practice. And this suspension is applicable for all the people in those countries. It is not just for the Muslims.

The truth is that rather than the problem being with the "Ban that Trump created" the problem was with the completely free borders concepts that Obama was implementing.  

That is false.  There were increases in deportations and a very long vetting process already in place under what Obama implemented.  Trump just wants to make sure he is happy with it and maybe tweak it.
I don't think that is correct regarding the so-called "Syrians" who had no paperwork or proof of identity.

Were they allowed in with no vetting?
I doubt that they were released without verification. Now the terrorist attacks on America will not. For them the number one target Europe. Muslims and Putin is not satisfied with a United Europe. For America they will take then.
There was no way to vet them, because there was no government infrastructure operating in Syria.  That's what started this whole issue, if I recall correctly.

So yes, they were being let in without vetting, without any background check.  Avoiding the customary system.  Obama and Clinton would have had us like Europe.


Do you have evidence of this?  And, once Trump starts to re-admit Syrian refugees - will this change or just be back to where it was?  Also, how specifically was it different under Bush?  Did he have an executive order that made things different?  If so, which one?  Or was there a law that applied differently that Obama repealed?

The issue didn't exist with Bush, and Obama wanted to just ignore the rules and law and let them in.

Here's a reference from about two years ago.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/fbi-says-there-no-way-vet-incoming-syrian-refugees
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February 04, 2017, 07:08:37 AM
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The Clintons have always been known as ass kissers and they will kotow to anyone who hands them cash. They are not champions of the people that they so claim to be, I for one am happy she didn't win, she is as trustworthy as the devil Himself. Trump will make America great again, Crush ISIS and make bring back American Jobs to the common people.

The Clinton crime family is having ties to various private defense industries. They provoke needless conflicts, so that the companies they own are able to generate more revenue. The same goes for some of the Republican politicians, such as John McCain and Dick Cheney.

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February 04, 2017, 03:04:09 PM
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The Clintons have always been known as ass kissers and they will kotow to anyone who hands them cash. They are not champions of the people that they so claim to be, I for one am happy she didn't win, she is as trustworthy as the devil Himself. Trump will make America great again, Crush ISIS and make bring back American Jobs to the common people.

The Clinton crime family is having ties to various private defense industries. They provoke needless conflicts, so that the companies they own are able to generate more revenue. The same goes for some of the Republican politicians, such as John McCain and Dick Cheney.
Have you not heard of Trump promises to increase funding for defense programs several times? What has changed? Trump makes decisions that do not conform to logic. He's a threat. I'm not a supporter of Hillary, but would be better if the President was she.
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February 04, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
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The issue didn't exist with Bush, and Obama wanted to just ignore the rules and law and let them in.

Here's a reference from about two years ago.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/fbi-says-there-no-way-vet-incoming-syrian-refugees

Interesting.  A different federal official said he had confidence in our ability to vet (see at 55 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qYMv8-qp0).

Either way, this doesn't mean we didn't vet at all.  One expressed concern, one said it was okay, but no where did we just say "come on in!"
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February 04, 2017, 04:49:16 PM
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It seems to me that Trump voted for are not the most educated people of America. The Trump phenomenon is the conflict of American society. This was not in the future need to reform the primary school system in America.
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February 04, 2017, 09:22:45 PM
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The issue didn't exist with Bush, and Obama wanted to just ignore the rules and law and let them in.

Here's a reference from about two years ago.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/fbi-says-there-no-way-vet-incoming-syrian-refugees

Interesting.  A different federal official said he had confidence in our ability to vet (see at 55 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qYMv8-qp0).

Either way, this doesn't mean we didn't vet at all.  One expressed concern, one said it was okay, but no where did we just say "come on in!"

That is exactly what they did say for the issue of the illegal Mexicans.  I have confidence in our ability to control our southern border, but not if the acting President tells the Border Patrol to not control it.  Which is exactly what was done by Obama.

Clapper did voice an opinion he had confidence in our ability to vet, but also that the Syrian refugee issue was a "disaster of biblical proportions."
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February 04, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
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Why donald trump ban the 7 muslims countries?

because he is doing god's work. yea i voted for him in louisiana, and i would've voted for him in primaries if i was in town. exactly what united states needed right now, so glad he ran for president

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February 05, 2017, 01:17:13 AM
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Why donald trump ban the 7 muslims countries?

because he is doing god's work. yea i voted for him in louisiana, and i would've voted for him in primaries if i was in town. exactly what united states needed right now, so glad he ran for president
If I remember correctly, the Bible says that you must love your neighbor and treat others as you want them to treat you. Please tell me what Trump is doing this what God wants? You have double standards.
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February 05, 2017, 03:53:50 AM
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Why donald trump ban the 7 muslims countries?
He probly has a black heart stone, and idk who's that moron that voted for trump you destroyed the U.S with your hands.

After this vote, the Americans have confirmed that they do not want to see America remain the leader in the world order. I'm sure they never even thought of. The idea of their own prosperity they shut off their brains. Now they get nothing and will destroy what was gained the previous generation.
I think the age where a superpower could try to get into the problems of all the world is coming to an end and we are going back to the precious system of spheres of influence obviously the US will like to remain influential in Europe and Latin America but it may withdraw from other scenarios.
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February 05, 2017, 06:21:15 AM
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Have you not heard of Trump promises to increase funding for defense programs several times? What has changed? Trump makes decisions that do not conform to logic. He's a threat. I'm not a supporter of Hillary, but would be better if the President was she.

Trump has promised to cut-down wasteful spending, including the $1.5 trillion F-35 project. If such unnecessary spending is reduced, then there will be more than enough funds for the new defense projects. 

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February 05, 2017, 03:08:51 PM
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Have you not heard of Trump promises to increase funding for defense programs several times? What has changed? Trump makes decisions that do not conform to logic. He's a threat. I'm not a supporter of Hillary, but would be better if the President was she.

Trump has promised to cut-down wasteful spending, including the $1.5 trillion F-35 project. If such unnecessary spending is reduced, then there will be more than enough funds for the new defense projects. 
F-35 is the best aircraft in the world. The fact that it is expensive does not mean that it always will be. The better the technology of production the cheaper will be its cost.. once again convinced that Trump sent to America by the devil.
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The issue didn't exist with Bush, and Obama wanted to just ignore the rules and law and let them in.

Here's a reference from about two years ago.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/fbi-says-there-no-way-vet-incoming-syrian-refugees

Interesting.  A different federal official said he had confidence in our ability to vet (see at 55 mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qYMv8-qp0).

Either way, this doesn't mean we didn't vet at all.  One expressed concern, one said it was okay, but no where did we just say "come on in!"

That is exactly what they did say for the issue of the illegal Mexicans.  I have confidence in our ability to control our southern border, but not if the acting President tells the Border Patrol to not control it.  Which is exactly what was done by Obama.

Clapper did voice an opinion he had confidence in our ability to vet, but also that the Syrian refugee issue was a "disaster of biblical proportions."

Actually deportations increased during his term over the prior President.  That being said, he didn't divert more government resources from other programs to be able to fully enforce immigration laws.  He also prioritized criminal deportations but didn't focus on deporting non-criminal illegals.  Hopefully Trump cuts other spending or increases taxes and funds more enforcement. I'd prefer the later, unless there is true waste to target (other than paying for his son's trips to Uruguay).
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F-35 is the best aircraft in the world. The fact that it is expensive does not mean that it always will be. The better the technology of production the cheaper will be its cost.. once again convinced that Trump sent to America by the devil.

The F-35 has been troubled with several unresolved technical bugs. On the other hand, Russia spent just 1% of that amount and developed two vastly superior aircraft (the Sukhoi-35 and the Sukhoi PAK FA). 

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F-35 is the best aircraft in the world. The fact that it is expensive does not mean that it always will be. The better the technology of production the cheaper will be its cost.. once again convinced that Trump sent to America by the devil.

The F-35 has been troubled with several unresolved technical bugs. On the other hand, Russia spent just 1% of that amount and developed two vastly superior aircraft (the Sukhoi-35 and the Sukhoi PAK FA). 

America should know the power of Russia. I think Russia can make a powerful equipment and weapons to destroy every country in the world. United States and other countries must know how to stop those kind of inventions, nevertheless, all of us can be only a history in this world.

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February 06, 2017, 05:51:03 AM
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Why donald trump ban the 7 muslims countries?
He probly has a black heart stone, and idk who's that moron that voted for trump you destroyed the U.S with your hands.

He afraid to attack his country in his term.And he think that 7 countries is have terrorist like ISIS.And I think this is his first move that can effects to America because others countries they think Trump is probably a racist person.
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February 06, 2017, 07:36:14 AM
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Have you not heard of Trump promises to increase funding for defense programs several times? What has changed? Trump makes decisions that do not conform to logic. He's a threat. I'm not a supporter of Hillary, but would be better if the President was she.

Trump has promised to cut-down wasteful spending, including the $1.5 trillion F-35 project. If such unnecessary spending is reduced, then there will be more than enough funds for the new defense projects. 
F-35 is the best aircraft in the world. The fact that it is expensive does not mean that it always will be. The better the technology of production the cheaper will be its cost.. once again convinced that Trump sent to America by the devil.

Huh

No, there is no such thing as "best aircraft."

For it's mission profiles, is it the best?

Nope.

Should it be criticized? 

Yep.
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Why donald trump ban the 7 muslims countries?
He probly has a black heart stone, and idk who's that moron that voted for trump you destroyed the U.S with your hands.

He afraid to attack his country in his term.And he think that 7 countries is have terrorist like ISIS.And I think this is his first move that can effects to America because others countries they think Trump is probably a racist person.

The only person who can answer your questions best is the president of the United States of America and he is no other than Donal Trump himself. At this point of time we cannot make bad criticism pertaining the plans and agenda of the president rather we must be observant and notice if his plans have made America better or it made America worse. After his term that would be the time to talk if he is a great president or the worst president of America. I believe that results speaks louder than words.
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