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May 06, 2017, 10:04:49 AM
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i'm wondering if there is any point for these coins to have segwit, are they aware what segwit is about? i don't remember these coins have all the capacity problem that is affecting bitcoin, segwit will not do anything to help them grow for now, they luck the users base which is more important than their block limit, and they block limit is for now fine
You need to understand software to make this claim. All non segwit btc forks will die off after btc activates segwit.. its as simple as that. Merge mined segwit coins will have rhe best results because sidechains will require merge mined chains to do cross chain transfers via assets. Currently only one coin i know of in this category so far but I expect all of them will be later on.

why they should die? it's not like they are merged mining with bitcoin or whatever, they are hard fork for a reason, they can do whatever they want they don't rely on bitcoin, i think like many other think too, that segwit is just a trend to increase the attraction from investors and pump their value nothing more nothing less

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May 06, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
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i'm wondering if there is any point for these coins to have segwit, are they aware what segwit is about? i don't remember these coins have all the capacity problem that is affecting bitcoin, segwit will not do anything to help them grow for now, they luck the users base which is more important than their block limit, and they block limit is for now fine
You need to understand software to make this claim. All non segwit btc forks will die off after btc activates segwit.. its as simple as that. Merge mined segwit coins will have rhe best results because sidechains will require merge mined chains to do cross chain transfers via assets. Currently only one coin i know of in this category so far but I expect all of them will be later on.

why they should die? it's not like they are merged mining with bitcoin or whatever, they are hard fork for a reason, they can do whatever they want they don't rely on bitcoin, i think like many other think too, that segwit is just a trend to increase the attraction from investors and pump their value nothing more nothing less
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May 06, 2017, 01:13:45 PM
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Nav is close to locking in segwit.

Actually, they will next period. This period support started too slow.
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May 06, 2017, 02:09:10 PM
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i'm wondering if there is any point for these coins to have segwit, are they aware what segwit is about? i don't remember these coins have all the capacity problem that is affecting bitcoin, segwit will not do anything to help them grow for now, they luck the users base which is more important than their block limit, and they block limit is for now fine
You need to understand software to make this claim. All non segwit btc forks will die off after btc activates segwit.. its as simple as that. Merge mined segwit coins will have rhe best results because sidechains will require merge mined chains to do cross chain transfers via assets. Currently only one coin i know of in this category so far but I expect all of them will be later on.

why they should die? it's not like they are merged mining with bitcoin or whatever, they are hard fork for a reason, they can do whatever they want they don't rely on bitcoin, i think like many other think too, that segwit is just a trend to increase the attraction from investors and pump their value nothing more nothing less

At this point, yes... it's a speculation and Big Pump that:

(a)  Bitcoin will activate both segwit and LN someday far, far away

(b)  your alt will be one of maybe 3 that will attract a lot of Bitcoin atomic traffic (LTC will be one, so 2 slots left)

(c)  a completely different technology will not make this patchwork obsolete
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May 06, 2017, 02:20:24 PM
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Vertcoin and Litecoin both locked in now.
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May 17, 2017, 01:42:13 AM
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Navcoin locked Segwit in last Friday and it should activate either this Friday or Saturday. Right now is a good time to buy in, considering its currently undervalued @ 15k even after the the news was out out last week.
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May 17, 2017, 03:40:32 AM
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Soon every TurdCoin 💩 will upgrade to segwit so it won't mean much.
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May 17, 2017, 07:36:29 AM
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Thank you for your hard work, That's what I want to know,I think the next hot spot is the lightning network.
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May 17, 2017, 12:29:18 PM
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Updated again. As now the most important Bitcoin-based altcoin (Litecoin) has activated Segwit, I will slow down the updating of this thread to at most once in a month.

An interesting future event would be the first Proof of Stake (or PoS/PoW) coin with Segwit activated. Maybe I'll also make a section for coins with working Lightning or ACCT implementations.

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May 17, 2017, 04:13:59 PM
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Updated again. As now the most important Bitcoin-based altcoin (Litecoin) has activated Segwit, I will slow down the updating of this thread to at most once in a month.

An interesting future event would be the first Proof of Stake (or PoS/PoW) coin with Segwit activated. Maybe I'll also make a section for coins with working Lightning or ACCT implementations.

NAV coin is the first POS coin that will be implementing Segwit. According to their dev team, "The activation of SegWit on the network will occur when our chain reaches block 1068480 which is expected to happen approximately Sun May 21 2017 08:45:10 GMT." (4 more days)

Source: https://navcoin.org/news/segwit-locked-in-polymorph-and-navpi-update/
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May 17, 2017, 07:24:15 PM
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too many segwit and it is not good at all. We only need 1 segwit. Other segwit just make in order to pump the coin.
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May 17, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
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NAV coin is the first POS coin that will be implementing Segwit.

Thanks! I didn't know it was a PoS coin. NAV Coin then should be the PoS coin with the most modern codebase - most PoS coins are still stuck with a 0.6, 0.8 or 0.10 (Emercoin) codebase.

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June 03, 2017, 07:26:24 PM
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ZenCash, which is a spin-off hard fork (i.e., "snapshot" hardfork) of ZClassic (which, itself is a software hardfork of ZCash), started with SegWit support on launch this past week.

- http://ZenCash.io


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The Zen network will be adapted to include segregated witness (segwit) support and additional cryptographic technologies.

- https://wiki.zencash.io/doku.php?id=faq
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June 22, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
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I've slightly changed the scope of the thread and now coins that have already implemented Lightning Network will be shown in a separated list.

As soon as there are coins with working (segwit-based) Atomic Cross-chain trading implementations, I will add another list with them.

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June 23, 2017, 03:17:14 AM
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Syscoin was the first coin to work on mainnet with lightning networks (eclair).

Heres proof https://mobile.twitter.com/syscoin/status/857409877609562112?lang=en

I dont think any other coin has proof that they did it before that.
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June 23, 2017, 07:56:29 AM
Last edit: June 23, 2017, 09:05:40 AM by jackielove4u
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Syscoin was the first coin to work on mainnet with lightning networks (eclair).

Heres proof https://mobile.twitter.com/syscoin/status/857409877609562112?lang=en

I dont think any other coin has proof that they did it before that.

Sorry this is not an arm race but I think u missed that Groestlcoin did it 1 day (on 26 april) before Syscoin (27 april):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.msg18761359#msg18761359
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857157192868397057
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857160429382107136
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857307157708120064

Good job tho!

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June 23, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
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Syscoin was the first coin to work on mainnet with lightning networks (eclair).

Heres proof https://mobile.twitter.com/syscoin/status/857409877609562112?lang=en

I dont think any other coin has proof that they did it before that.

Sorry this is not an arm race but I think u missed that Groestlcoin did it 1 day (on 26 april) before Syscoin (27 april):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.msg18761359#msg18761359
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857157192868397057
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857160429382107136
https://twitter.com/GroestlcoinTeam/status/857307157708120064

Good job tho!
Thx just saw.. good work.
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August 01, 2017, 11:35:55 PM
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And now all of you better start planning your exit stage left.
Best start prepping how to remove the virus now.

Seems LN doesn't need SW activation.

Good luck guys.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@modprobe/i-looked-into-segwit-and-here-s-what-i-saw




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August 10, 2017, 05:16:55 PM
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Please add ArtByte.

Here is a recent thread of ArtByte's SegWit deployment status:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063158.msg20719300#msg20719300


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August 16, 2017, 04:55:32 AM
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ArtByte yesterday announced that SegWit is now enabled on their testnet. Up next is final testing on the new client and mining pool. Then enabling SegWit on the live network: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2063158
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