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February 07, 2017, 02:24:31 AM
Last edit: April 25, 2017, 04:46:45 AM by tokeweed
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Date: Saturday, May 13th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:15 BCT / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (FX): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card (PPV)

Stipe Miocic (16-2) vs. Junior dos Santos (18-4) (Heavyweight Championship)
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (13-0) vs. Jessica Andrade (16-5) (Women's Strawweight Championship)
Demian Maia (24-6) vs. Jorge Masvidal (32-11) (Welterweight)
Frankie Edgar (21-5-1) vs. Yair Rodriguez (10-1) (Featherweight)
Henry Cejudo (10-2) vs. Sergio Pettis (15-2) (Flyweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Eddie Alvarez (28-5) vs. Dustin Poirier (21-5) (Lightweight)
Chas Skelly (17-2) vs. Jason Knight (16-2) (Featherweight)
Krzysztof Jotko (19-1) vs. David Branch (20-3) (Middleweight)
Marco Polo Reyes (7-3) vs. James Vick (10-1) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Jessica Aguilar (19-5) vs. Cortney Casey (6-4) (Women's Strawweight)
Gabriel Benitez (19-5) vs. Enrique Barzola (12-3-1) (Featherweight)
Chase Sherman (9-3) vs. Dmitry Poberezhets (24-5-1) (Heavyweight)
Jared Gordon (12-1) vs. Michel Quinones (8-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- Jarjis Danho was expected to face promotional newcomer Dmitry Poberezhets at the event. However, Danho pulled out of the fight in mid-April citing an injury. He was replaced by Chase Sherman on April 18.

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February 08, 2017, 12:25:25 AM
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I like Junior dos Santos but he's past his prime. It's really hard to predict this fight plus Dos Santos is a good match up for Miocic but it's gonna be tough both of them. Junior dos Santos better come prepared physically and mentally, he barely won that decision from their first fight and Stipe Miocic has only progressed since then. I just hope to see a great fight like the first one again.
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February 08, 2017, 12:46:42 AM
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No Junior Dos Santos is not past his prime. He is 33. That is still good in the UFC, and he could also win this versus Stipe. I tried checking the odds for that fight but the sportsbooks still has not made them yet. Another Fabricio Werdum versus Stipe would have been a better fight than this. But least Dana White is giving Junior another chance for the heavy weight championship.

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February 08, 2017, 06:09:54 AM
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Well it looks like we have another bout in the HW division and this may well be the co main event.  Funny how the UFC loves putting up 'co main events' out there these days.  Grin  Anyway the bout will be between Fabricio Werdum and Ben Rothwell.  It's a decent fight but I would much rather watch a Cain Velasquez match vs either of the two.  I guess the winner of this bout will get a shot at the title then?  What do you guys think?


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February 08, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
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There was a time when JDS can pretty much beat almost everyone in the hw class but i think that time is way past us now. A lot of respect for dos santos but my money's on stipe here. It would've been better if JDS just hung up his gloves and retired already but hey, fighters do what they have to do. But in think this would be a one sided fight in favor of miocic.

 
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February 08, 2017, 05:41:27 PM
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Its so hard who to bet to. JDS maybe past his prime but I think he still has something to prove. But Miocic is very good as well. I might bet for Stipe Miocic. Sorry JDS your one of my favorite but I think you are already done in this sports.
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February 08, 2017, 05:55:30 PM
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Dos Santos is surely past his best now after all those years, I have to think Miocic will defend his belt. I mean sure anything can happen but Miocic has to be the favourite.

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February 08, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
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The last time Stipe and JDS fought, it was a close fight.

Some people thought Stipe won, even though judges gave JDS the win.

Stipe Miocic seems to have improved since then. His skill and athleticism are better now.

On the flipside JDS seems to have regressed. He's not as good as he used to be.

I think Stipe will win.
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February 08, 2017, 11:37:20 PM
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It is a really good title fight and a rematch between Stipe Miocic and Junior dos Santos as both fighters are good strikers and so we would see a good battle as both should not be worried about getting down and the only worry is how the condition of Junior dos Santos is after all the injuries he has sustained throughout his fighting career.
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February 09, 2017, 03:39:18 AM
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The last time Stipe and JDS fought, it was a close fight.

Some people thought Stipe won, even though judges gave JDS the win.

Stipe Miocic seems to have improved since then. His skill and athleticism are better now.

On the flipside JDS seems to have regressed. He's not as good as he used to be.

I think Stipe will win.


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But somehow i believe that the winner wasn't decide by the strong one or the tittle one
Cause I believe because both they are as the top rank fighter
Whose smarter around them it might be the winner
In my idea the one whose smart whose know the enemy weak point or the weakness of the enemy will be the last man stand Smiley
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February 09, 2017, 05:21:33 AM
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Dos Santos is surely past his best now after all those years, I have to think Miocic will defend his belt. I mean sure anything can happen but Miocic has to be the favourite.

Oh for sure.  It's a no brainer Stipe Miocic bet the only question now is where can you get value?  I can see a Miocic line opening at 1.50 and then continue to go lower.  Maybe some props would be better.  Does anyone know if 5 Dimes still accepts BTC?  They have the best prop bets in the business.

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April 11, 2017, 06:31:57 AM
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Oh for sure.  It's a no brainer Stipe Miocic bet the only question now is where can you get value?  I can see a Miocic line opening at 1.50 and then continue to go lower.  Maybe some props would be better.  Does anyone know if 5 Dimes still accepts BTC?  They have the best prop bets in the business.
I just checked their site and it looks like 5dimes is still accepting Bitcoins with no fees. haven't used them yet but planning to try and look around the site if its better than others sports betting sites.
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April 11, 2017, 06:17:05 PM
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It is a really good title fight and a rematch between Stipe Miocic and Junior dos Santos as both fighters are good strikers and so we would see a good battle as both should not be worried about getting down and the only worry is how the condition of Junior dos Santos is after all the injuries he has sustained throughout his fighting career.

Junior Dos Santos has too many battles in his hand already but he is well rested so this make the fight more exciting. But I'm gonna go with Stipe Miocic because of the stamina factor. Junior Dos Santos got tired too easily and once he is hit, he will remember the beating he got from Cain Velasquez.

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Miocic and Dos Santos is going to be a great battle and i hope Dos Santos has recovered and is fully fit and if so he is one of the dangerous fighter in the division,there are more fights added for this PPV, Joanna Jędrzejczyk will be facing Jessica Andrade ,Frankie Edgar will be facing Yair Rodríguez which is yet another great battle of young guns versus the old guns, Demian Maia facing Jorge Masvidal, Henry Cejudo facing Sergio Pettis and Eddie Alvarez is slotted in the Preliminary Card facing Dustin Poirier.

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April 11, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
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It will be totally competitive match, the kind where is really hard to predict the winner but IMO Miocic has slightly better chance here.
Mostly because Dos Santos might not be in the best shape, he will be rusty and that is major point for Miocic.

My prediction: Stipe Miocic will take this win by unanimous decision.
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April 11, 2017, 08:32:10 PM
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doesn't dos Santos have some sort of brain damage?  I don't know if it's just a rumor or something but a friend mentioned it once and I just kinda took it with a grain of salt.

JDS doesn't have brain damage.

But it was confirmed he got a medical condition called rhabdomyolysis sometime around his 2nd fight with Cain Velasquez.

There are plenty of articles about it on MMA news sites.
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This fight card has some interesting matches and the matches i am looking forward are Yair Rodríguez and Demian Maia as this match determines what their potential is and it is important fights for both as they have to do their best to win the fight but even though Frankie is getting old it is really hard to beat him except for Aldo,i would really like to see Demian Maia fight for the belt as he deserves to fight for the title.
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April 13, 2017, 09:21:19 PM
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doesn't dos Santos have some sort of brain damage?  I don't know if it's just a rumor or something but a friend mentioned it once and I just kinda took it with a grain of salt.
JDS doesn't have brain damage.
But it was confirmed he got a medical condition called rhabdomyolysis sometime around his 2nd fight with Cain Velasquez.
There are plenty of articles about it on MMA news sites.
JDS might not have any brain damage but he is a different fighter after the Cain wars he was always injured and he was inactive for a very long time but his match against Stipe Miocic in 2014 was yet another war and it is really tough to predict the outcome if the rematch,Stipe Miocic is looking stronger than ever after winning the belt and it takes a big effort from JDS to take that belt.
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I think we can all agree that JDS has seen his best days. He may still be able to dominate other fighters but not in the level of stipe. There was a time when i thought JDS probably was the best striker and i'd put all my money on him. That was before Cain Velazquez. but i don't think he's still the same fighter now.

 
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April 14, 2017, 11:44:46 PM
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I think we can all agree that JDS has seen his best days. He may still be able to dominate other fighters but not in the level of stipe. There was a time when i thought JDS probably was the best striker and i'd put all my money on him. That was before Cain Velazquez. but i don't think he's still the same fighter now.
What you have to understand is JDS has defeated Stipe Miocic and Mark Hunt after the Cain Velazquez fight and it is a fact that the fight with Velazquez has taken a toll in his body but that does not mean that he is an easy target,the only loss JDS has other than Velazquez is the fight against an improved Alistair Overeem but the thing is he was coming from a long lay off due to injury and the game plan was perfect and countered JDS and knock him out ,i am not counting out JDS in this match as he might not be the old knock out artist but he is a durable fighter.
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