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February 07, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
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Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?

Because you can't buy grocery with bitcoin at the moment, not even a pizza, not clothes or shoes. So we'll have to stick with money and credit/debit cards for a while before we completely abandon them. There is still a lot of time before that happens, let governments and big companies aside, not even all normal people into bitcoin as of this moment. So first masses has to accept and start using it, then maybe people would start using it in businesses and then we'll definitely see its rise.
But I wonder if bitcoin was actually made for this?
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February 07, 2017, 09:47:17 AM
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Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?


Your idea is good, but actually we need bank debit card at least, so we can deposit and withdraw money from that. I against paypal and credit cards, especially the latter one, it charges lots of fees and costs expensive annual fees. Paypal is bad because there are too many charge back scammers. I always avoid it.
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February 07, 2017, 09:55:06 AM
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Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?


Your idea is good, but actually we need bank debit card at least, so we can deposit and withdraw money from that. I against paypal and credit cards, especially the latter one, it charges lots of fees and costs expensive annual fees. Paypal is bad because there are too many charge back scammers. I always avoid it.
well if establishment can be convince to use bitcoin system i guess it will be easy for us to use btc everywhere but sad to say that until now its just few businessman who really adopt bitcoin system better to keep doing such campaign and advertisement in order to make more knowledge about this amazing and low cost transaction fee.
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February 07, 2017, 10:00:48 AM
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The idea of accepting bitcoin in every stores and retailers is really good thought but before that government should recognize about bitcoin. Like visa, debit, credit card etc. these three thing are accepting every where in your country because already they are integrated with banks. Very soon bitcoin will also be accepted in these stores and retailers.

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February 07, 2017, 10:13:05 AM
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Actually, the author of the thread is biased towards banking system. Many young people hate banks but we can't still live without it. If one or two world major banks crashes, it means that we are back in 2008. Crisis will disrupt many countries and we'll see more poor people. Bitcoin is not about disruption, in my opinion. It is about choice. With BTC you have choice and freedom.



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February 07, 2017, 10:13:32 AM
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Paying for goods and services with PayPal is free and instant. How can Btcoin beat that guys?
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February 07, 2017, 10:22:08 AM
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Paying for goods and services with PayPal is free and instant. How can Btcoin beat that guys?

It can't because Bitcoin is not competitor to the traditional payment system and I cannot imagine that we can use BTC for everyday transactions. In developed coutries we have all access to banking and financial services. Transactions are instant with 0 fees. I'm paying with my mobile app and it is very secure. But many unbanked people are in need of BTC until they have no other choice.



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February 07, 2017, 10:35:40 AM
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I try to do this, I try to keep a law profile for governments and banks whereever I only can, I don't use bank deposits anymore and stash all money in bitcoins. But sure sometimes so far it dificult to complitely avoid fiat financial system.
But I argee with you, we need to get in control of our money and bitcoin is a great opportunity and we must not pass up this chance
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February 07, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
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Paying for goods and services with PayPal is free and instant. How can Btcoin beat that guys?
In a very simple way. PayPal is not even available worldwide, some countries are banned from using PayPal: Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Syria and so on.
Bitcoin is available for everyone, everywhere, as long as there is internet access there. How can PayPal beat than?
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February 07, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
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Paying for goods and services with PayPal is free and instant. How can Btcoin beat that guys?
In a very simple way. PayPal is not even available worldwide, some countries are banned from using PayPal: Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Syria and so on.
Bitcoin is available for everyone, everywhere, as long as there is internet access there. How can PayPal beat than?
Yeah i know that but bitcoin coverage just not as good as paypal, it's right that paypal ban those countries and bitcoin didnt, but those countries just have really low bitcoin users mean not better than paypal
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February 07, 2017, 10:59:19 AM
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Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
they can track bitcoin transactions much easier than they can track fiat, and more specifically cash transactions!

also i am not doing anything shady or illegal to be wanting to hide!

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Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
we pay taxes to the government and not to third parties. and if you don't like the law and what it says about taxes then take up to the court Cheesy

it is worth saying where i live taxes are so low and nice Wink

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Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
i do do that!
the problem is nobody else does it but me. so there is nowhere to spend bitcoin.

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Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
i would like to see that, have you done anything or tried anything in this area?!!

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Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?
this question doesn't even make sense.
someone else already pointed this out, i say it again. it doesn't matter if you are running a full node or using an SPV wallet or even using websites to push your transaction, there will be a lot of unconfirmed transactions as long as some group is spamming tx and block size is small.

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Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?
not everyone is good at making a successful transaction and building it up. i have something of my own in my own country which is small. but in my experience it is not for everyone.

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February 07, 2017, 11:04:50 AM
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More and more business will use bitcoin to trade, for sure  Cool
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February 07, 2017, 11:26:40 AM
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Paying for goods and services with PayPal is free and instant. How can Btcoin beat that guys?
In a very simple way. PayPal is not even available worldwide, some countries are banned from using PayPal: Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Syria and so on.
Bitcoin is available for everyone, everywhere, as long as there is internet access there. How can PayPal beat than?

What can you buy with Bitcoin in Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Syria? If people living there don't have a bank account how will they sell their freshly acquired coins and convert to local currency? Do you know if they even actively use Bitcoin at all there?
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February 07, 2017, 12:42:14 PM
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https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions (71000 at time of this post)

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February 07, 2017, 01:50:03 PM
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For now still difficult, especially in the city and the country there is no place that can accept bitcoin directly. many news their bitcoin atm but it was still very limited. fiat money is still a choice, so I'm still depending with the bank, credit card and paypal.
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February 07, 2017, 02:53:28 PM
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Its not possible to integrate it to everywhere right now. As I live in Bangladesh, bitcoin is banned here and I can't use it here for my daily needs. It will be a long process for the people to know about it more and more and and use it. And government will accept this if the private companies start its use. The more it takes time to settle the more it will be permanent in our society. This kind of change can't be done instantly.

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February 07, 2017, 02:59:08 PM
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What can you buy with Bitcoin in Belarus, Iraq, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, Syria? If people living there don't have a bank account how will they sell their freshly acquired coins and convert to local currency? Do you know if they even actively use Bitcoin at all there?
The answer is even simpler than it seems. In these countries, you can buy dollars if you have a Bitcoins. I think explains not continue. Everyone knows how to spend the dollars. I understand that in any case, we return to fiat money but no country has not yet fully passed on cryptocurrency. Prior to that, very far away.

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February 07, 2017, 03:02:42 PM
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Why do you allow to governments track your transactions?
Why do you you pay crazy taxes for banks, third parties?
Why don't be your own bank and use Bitcoin only?
Why don't create something that will allow worldwide users to buy everything with bitcoin?
Why do you cry about unconfirmed transactions instead of downloading wallet and supporting the bitcoin network?

Bitcoin's future depends on public acceptance, why do you cry of less bitcoin acceptance instead of doing something and creating bitcoin business right now?

Different reasons for everyone, but the main problem is bitcoin still not as an official payment that accepted everywhere.
We're not on suitable condition to leave banks system and fiat payment yet. As there are a lot to achieve/solve for bitcoin to become a major payment method. Yes, we need doing something but problem related to acceptance or bitcoin transaction need more than an intended to solve. For example : my last transaction, it's already 12 hours and still not confirmed, there is nothing I can do about it.

Bitcoin would be popular if local governments will legalize it, it seems like, if our local government will be the one who will consider bitcoin as money, a lot of people or citizens will go on this kind of money paying transactions. Once government implement bitcoins, an additional fee for all transactions will be implemented

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February 07, 2017, 03:42:11 PM
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Valid questions but that is what our social structure is. So that is not going to happen even in future. It can only be done in dreams. However, on a serious note, if this happens, the world economy will fall apart and a huge madness between the people will erupt.

Government keeps us safe because we pay them the tax in various ways. Directly or indirectly. If we don't have government, then everything will shatter. So it is not at all a good idea to stop disclosing anything to government. Government is necessary for out well being. Without a government in each countries, our humanity will be destroyed.

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February 07, 2017, 09:50:01 PM
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I support this, but in fact we as well as the user would have an important role to introduce bitcoin to everyone, at least the need to introduce it to some restaurateurs and others for using the payment bitcoin making it easier for customers to get used to using bitcoin to buy and pay for something and it also was the stage of the process, let's look at the future
I agree the problem with the bitcoin today is that it needs more advertising so people will know more about it and become popular and get the attention of the investors and the big companies, I mean PayPal was not popular at first but with time it become used everywhere, bitcoin is sti new so give it some time.

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