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February 08, 2017, 04:24:40 AM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
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February 08, 2017, 04:42:08 AM
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Good day, I am from the Philippines.. Here in where I live, the government has already made that mandatory, as a law, and shall be done by any official employee of any government offices, they shall declare their SALN (statement of assets and liabilities and Net worth) 30 days after assumption, they shall declare it, and once a year, April IIRC, they shall submit such documents, and before they left their position...

Under that law, an officer, his wife, children under their custody, shall document each property they have...  Smiley

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February 08, 2017, 04:49:31 AM
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And what happens if his declaration mismatch?
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February 08, 2017, 05:29:51 AM
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And what happens if his declaration mismatch?

No mismatch that will happen, it will be declared by the official himself before he take the office and yearly and before he left the office, he is going to file new one and it will be reviewed by a certain branch your office belongs, and submitted to the appropriate agencies in the government.

As far as I know they will be removed from the office that they are holding... it depends on the gravity of your case...

There are already public officials here that are removed from the office due to that. Even judiciary branch of the government is not safe from that... One good example of this was the late chief justice renato corona....  Smiley

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February 08, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
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Honestly, I don't know what we will do to my country. As of these days, I don't know to whom will I believe most especially in the politics , the government. Because for me, all I can see to them is just getting the money of the country, the money of my fellow Filipinos. I'm hoping this time that all the corrupts will be in jail and get their consequences so that no one will do the same mistake.

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February 08, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
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It will never happen and do you know why? Because these laws would have to be made and accepted by the same corrupt politicians.
They will never jeopardize their wealthy lives and the lives of their families, so they will never allow such law to pass.

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February 08, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
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Those under the table deals are very hard to find. You need to catch them red handed. The best solution to that is to really make them declare their wealth and the source of it. So when they make reaches out of nowhere, there is a possibility that they are doing something malicious in their office.

If caught in the act, then all their unexplained wealth shall become the property of the government, and can be sold so it can be used as extra fund.

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February 08, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
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Efficient way? I don't think people in the government (in my country) will agree to investigate to them because I know in our country most of the people or should I say 98% of the people in the government is doing corruption. So what can a normal people can do to avoid those corruption? Too bad! I really hate politics!

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February 08, 2017, 01:14:19 PM
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combination company and goverment can get big corruption and very dificult in eradicating


     
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February 08, 2017, 01:30:54 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
We cannot 100% eradicate it, but one way to lessen it to have transparency in each country. In our country we encouraged to have transparency to all government officials. Corrupt people are everywhere even an ordinary person can do it. I am not generalizing it, but it is the truth. So for me, I'd rather change myself before accusing other people and let God punish them.
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We cannot 100% eradicate it, but one way to lessen it to have transparency in each country. In our country we encouraged to have transparency to all government officials. Corrupt people are everywhere even an ordinary person can do it. I am not generalizing it, but it is the truth. So for me, I'd rather change myself before accusing other people and let God punish them.
I want to justice to be served on this world not another.
When someone is saying that we can't do anything and instead we should let God to do his job, it feels like major sign of helplessness.

I heard many theories and tips from people who claim to know how to stop corruption, they are not perfect. For example:

1. Pay better money in government jobs - people are greedy to the point that if they are corrupt they would always want more.
This will eliminate only the most pettiest corruption attempts.

2. Keep log of transactions, bills, online bank account monitoring etc. - how about old fashioned cash? You can't track it.

3. Cameras in government facilities - if you want to bribe someone you can do it after working hours...

4. Hire only respected, serious and honest people - great point if we actually could manage to do that. In reality people re cunning to the point of faking their righteousness.


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February 08, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
It seems to me that you want to deal with the consequence rather than the cause. If an official takes money in order to bypass some sort of law, then you should think, and whether such a law.
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If a government employee being caught taking bribe or embezzling funds from the budget, even single time, remove presumption of innocence from all his assets (house, land, car, jewelry, bank account etc) and require him to prove source of the income from which he had acquired these assets. If he cannot prove legality of his incomes, confiscate ALL properties belonging to him or transferred to his relatives after investigation started.

For many corruptioners prison time is nothing! After serving few years he can start living like a millionaire having money he stole.
We cannot 100% eradicate it, but one way to lessen it to have transparency in each country. In our country we encouraged to have transparency to all government officials. Corrupt people are everywhere even an ordinary person can do it. I am not generalizing it, but it is the truth. So for me, I'd rather change myself before accusing other people and let God punish them.

I like you're way of thinking, let God punish them. If everyone thought this way then I would definitely be a drug king pin.
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Ineligibility is enough I think. That is a way too hard punishment to take control of all his assets, as people raping or murdering have lower sentences...

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February 08, 2017, 05:32:10 PM
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That is a way too hard punishment to take control of all his assets, as people raping or murdering have lower sentences...
Not all assets. Only these for which offender cannot prove legal source of income to buy them.
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February 08, 2017, 05:47:50 PM
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That is a way too hard punishment to take control of all his assets, as people raping or murdering have lower sentences...
Not all assets. Only these for which offender cannot prove legal source of income to buy them.
Do not forget that to prove the origin of their income can not only corrupt, but also those who earn their money honestly just don't want to pay the full taxes. I also don't cry and don't think it's bad.
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Do not forget that to prove the origin of their income can not only corrupt, but also those who earn their money honestly just don't want to pay the full taxes. I also don't cry and don't think it's bad.
Proposed confiscation will apply only to the assets acquired after offender took the office. This is penalty for corruption and not tax evasion in the past.
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February 08, 2017, 05:55:17 PM
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We need a law to dismiss from service if found to be involved in corruption. For instance if you see cases where anti-corruption bureau rides an officers home and finds disproportionate assets, the officer is suspended from employment and taken for judicial trials. But after couple of years you will find them in employment at same or even better positions. So this creates no fear among the officials against corruption.
And we can also keep transactions online and provide bill for every purchase: Many of them do not pay taxes and escape.  This is where bitcoin can come into picture.
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February 08, 2017, 06:19:29 PM
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It can't be eradicated. Corruption has been going on since recorded history. People will always be tempted, bribe so essence, its already corruption. Corruption though is more prevalent is 3rd or developing countries. Laws are always there very bad people will corrupt police, government official just to get what they want because of money.

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February 08, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
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The best way to eradicate corruption and crime is to ensure a strong job market where everyone is able to work and have a good job, without needing to resort to nefarious means to provide for themselves & their families.

It invokes wealth and wage equality, a fair and decent standard of living for poor to middle class income earners.

Crime and corruption are what people turn to when they feel abandoned by politicians, world leaders & feel as if they have no hope. Crime is a last resort.

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