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December 05, 2017, 05:13:31 PM

goldbugs are so salty
https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/gold-prices-050420172
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December 05, 2017, 05:19:17 PM

Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

What a bunch of BS that letter. It's a page longer than Nakamoto's original Bitcoin white paper.

So this guy is the CEO central authority of what is supposed be a decentralised fork of what is definitely a decentralised digital currency?   Huh

And how exactly is he expecting not to be shat on?
The same way the social justice movement actually has momentum. Humans are fucking apes.
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December 05, 2017, 05:24:10 PM



Parabolic rises always end in tears... for somebody.


Truest words on this forum.

Or... Recovery from crash always ends up in big smiles :p
Depends on your point of view! hodlers will be happy regardless

I've been through a crash. Been underwater in bitcoin. But I didn't cry, and I didn't sell at a loss. I just DCA-ed down and hodled. And had to listen to the squawk of bears and trolls for 18 months straight.

Now I have big smile. And balls of steel. Grin

When it happens again, I'll just do the same.

This. Ditto.
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December 05, 2017, 05:26:49 PM

Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

Haha Torque. You funny. You've been literally telling me to 'shut up' for - what? - a year now? How's that working out for ya?

Like I said - delusional.

Still no proof of me being wrong. Just a lame comeback and a hand wave.

What exactly am I supposed to prove, in your estimation? You are the one making the claim that Falkvinge got marching orders from some other power in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem. Who rendered these marching orders? When were they issued? What is your proof? The proof is impingent upon the claimant. OTOH, it is widely recognized that proving a negative is possible only in corner cases.

As I said, delusional.

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Hey, is [Bitcoin Cash] set to trade futures yet?

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

Actually, we won't know what effect the trading of such derivatives have upon the base asset until such trading is actually underway. Like I said, delusional.

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How's that lack of interest working out for ya?

Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Cheers!
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December 05, 2017, 05:29:17 PM

Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

Haha Torque. You funny. You've been literally telling me to 'shut up' for - what? - a year now? How's that working out for ya?

Like I said - delusional.

Still no proof of me being wrong. Just a lame comeback and a hand wave.

What exactly am I supposed to prove, in your estimation? You are the one making the claim that Falkvinge got marching orders from some other power in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem. Who rendered these marching orders? When were they issued? What is your proof? The proof is impingent upon the claimant. OTOH, it is widely recognized that proving a negative is possible only in corner cases.

As I said, delusional.

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Hey, is [Bitcoin Cash] set to trade futures yet?

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

Actually, we won't know what effect the trading of such derivatives have upon the base asset until such trading is actually underway. Like I said, delusional.

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How's that lack of interest working out for ya?

Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Cheers!
Above BTC returns isn't difficult to achieve for a low volume shitcoin, especially with wash trading, market manipulation and direct attacks. We all know how sustainable that approach is though.
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December 05, 2017, 05:41:16 PM

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

Queue up after ETH. BCash has no redeeming feature except great marketing - its just a better advertised and less integrated version of litecoin. It's that cheap iphone knock off that costs 10% of a real iphone
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December 05, 2017, 05:42:27 PM

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

delusional

Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Super delusional
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December 05, 2017, 05:56:07 PM

According to my analysis, christmas($34k) will come 2-3 days early this year.
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December 05, 2017, 05:57:23 PM

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

delusional

"[CBOE President Chris] Concannon said the exchange thinks a family of cryptocurrency products, including futures for ether and bitcoin cash, could come to fruition as the market continues to mature."
- http://www.businessinsider.com/cboes-president-hints-at-ether-and-bitcoin-cash-futures-2017-12

Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

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Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Super delusional

Since 2017 Aug 01, my Bitcoin-derived portfolio is up 3.82x in USD terms. Plus unmeasured Bitcoin Gold. Plus a little cash pulled out. Is that good? How you doin'?
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December 05, 2017, 06:02:37 PM

According to my analysis, christmas($34k) will come 2-3 days early this year.

May your Christmas wishes come true  Grin
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December 05, 2017, 06:06:45 PM

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

delusional

"[CBOE President Chris] Concannon said the exchange thinks a family of cryptocurrency products, including futures for ether and bitcoin cash, could come to fruition as the market continues to mature."
- http://www.businessinsider.com/cboes-president-hints-at-ether-and-bitcoin-cash-futures-2017-12

Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.


Oh wait, you forgot to mention that CBOE is based on gemini http://cfe.cboe.com/cfe-products/xbt-cboe-bitcoin-futures, which does not trade btc knock offs (but does trade ethers)
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December 05, 2017, 06:43:37 PM



Parabolic rises always end in tears... for somebody.


Truest words on this forum.

Or... Recovery from crash always ends up in big smiles :p
Depends on your point of view! hodlers will be happy regardless

I've been through a crash. Been underwater in bitcoin. But I didn't cry, and I didn't sell at a loss. I just DCA-ed down and hodled. And had to listen to the squawk of bears and trolls for 18 months straight.

Now I have big smile. And balls of steel. Grin

When it happens again, I'll just do the same.

If we end the year over 10k, I’ll be happy. This is rising too quickly.
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December 05, 2017, 06:55:00 PM

In the meantime jp morgan says btc is the new gold. That was unexpected...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jpmorgan-switches-tact-backs-bitcoin-as-new-gold
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December 05, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
Last edit: December 05, 2017, 07:11:14 PM by Torque

Consensus belief (or collective value is what I like to call it) is what separates something of value to the larger human collective from something that isn't valuable. It's exactly why Bitcoin can have value to a greater collective of people, whereas a near exact clone of it doesn't (no matter what it's trading price might be).

This article nails it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/bitcoin-delusion-conquer-world/547187/
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December 05, 2017, 06:58:08 PM

In the meantime jp morgan says btc is the new gold. That was unexpected...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jpmorgan-switches-tact-backs-bitcoin-as-new-gold


What a troll. I knew it.
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December 05, 2017, 07:05:43 PM
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A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We may be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/10kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.
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December 05, 2017, 07:13:26 PM

In the meantime jp morgan says btc is the new gold. That was unexpected...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jpmorgan-switches-tact-backs-bitcoin-as-new-gold

Was it really? Or do you mean it was unexpected that they'd flip around so quickly?
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December 05, 2017, 07:15:44 PM

A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
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December 05, 2017, 07:17:10 PM

A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
Maybe he has a large leverage on Euro trades. Roll Eyes
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December 05, 2017, 07:21:13 PM

There’s something going on. Bitcoin is being unnaturally squeezed into a 20€ trading range of 9980 - 9999 on Gdax. Something has to give, and when it gives there will be a pop.  
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