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[JayJuanGee]

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist.  

Boris Johnson has already become that, but I cannot remember the term.. or if we need to create a term.  

New research obsession of mine to find the right descriptor (or meme or whatever will accurately describe such phenomena and several people are coming to realize that those invisible lil thingies, aka viruses, can be a "real" force to be reckoned with).

Even when someone is a denier, we can still feel some passion for the human side of severe illness and perhaps succumbing to death when they become the victim, even though their prior arrogance can be challenging of such sympathies, too, as shown in this article, including a video from Johnson, too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-28/johnson-s-war-with-coronavirus-is-no-joke-anymore

The below article about Landon Spradlin deals with coronavirus deniers becoming victims, too.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/02/landon-spradlin-coronavirus-pandemic-death-punchline/

 I'd like to point out that there is a difference between denying the existence of Covid-19 and using a more restrained approach than shutting down your economy and paying people not to work in order to control the spread of the virus.  Many of us in the free world don't take kindly to being imprisoned even if it might be in our own best interest.  Don't forget that Boris just weeks ago finished wresting Britain from the clutches of that bureaucratic behemoth - The European Empire Mash-up Union.

Don't get me wrong.  Surely, I am not inclined towards the restriction of civil liberties or totally shutting down various aspects of an economy with little to no evidence, but there has been some science and truth denialism with some folks, whether referring to Trump or to Johnson.... so arrogance can be quite a weary and wearing experience, and I never liked bullies, so I kind of get turned off by them.  In any event, I am not concluding that there is all or nothing here, and frequently we need science to be informing our decisions.  Seems a bit crazy that such guy was going around shaking hands, against medical advice and also making denialism jokes about the lack of severity of the virus, which I personally find quite problematic for political leaders.. and sure, maybe sometimes political leaders might say certain things that they do not mean as a kind of exaggeration, but a virus is being shown to be something that needs to be taken seriously including supply line issues that have been shown to be quite vulnerable and also the out-of-control nature of exponential spreading in our current times of a very connected world... Don't even need to make this political, even though I know that there is a lot of politics involved and difficult to avoid that also.  (I hope that you don't take back my prophylactic hat.  You BIG meanie. #nohomo)

Edit:
Your last sentence, homer, reminds me of doing the monster mash.  A nice little olive branch song to cheer us all up, no?

[JayJuanGee]

And they told me Bitcoin was a risky volatile asset...

(Plotted in log charts so % gains/losses are proportional within each respective sparkline)

via Imgflip Meme Generator

https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1247434537669234688?s=21

Do I think BTC is exhibiting safe haven properties?

Yes.

I think this is in part due to the nuances of Bitcoin production costs creating a floor in price, and partly due to it getting an uplift in price due to it's adoption s-curve (other assets are at adoption saturation).
https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1247441012332482560?s=21

That view really does seem to put the whole matter into a better kind of perspective.

Of course, if you look at bitcoin's rise and fall and you ONLY look at the past 6 months, then the drop in bitcoin appears to be almost the same as the stock market, real estate and gold...

But if you zoom out, then you will see that bitcoin has only dropped a very small degree in terms of its overall rise.. barely a blip that seems to be much greater and tragic when looking in a shorter time horizon.

[El duderino_]

#staysafe

#HODLsleep

#14000thpost

#LoL

[Raja_MBZ]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

[Toxic2040]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

The guy is just a solid human being.

+1 WOsMerit Jack.

[Ibian]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

Okay but... how about this part?

“After we disarm this pandemic, the focus will shift to girl’s health and education, and UBI,” Dorsey said Tuesday in a tweet, referring to universal basic income. The pledge represents about 28% of his wealth, he said.

Those are feminist issues. And more to the point re: the virus, more men than women are dying from it.

Also also, UBI.

[JayJuanGee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnEik-n-yTM

That's much better.

Uploaded yesterday, but he did mention a $9XXX BTC, so obviously a bit older.
Very interesting to hear what he had to say about energy and proof of stake.

+1 WO's merit damn it.

I watched that less than 30 minute interview with Niklas Nikolajsen of Bitcoin Suisse, too, and I did have the impression that Niklas comes off as a very smart, thoughtful and likable guy..  

However, I think that he is wrong about proof of stake, and his stated belief that bitcoin is going to ultimately transition to proof of stake.  That is like crazy-talk and Niklas asserts such transition to proof of stake as if it were a given, but in the end, his assertion shows that even very smart, rich guys in the business side of the bitcoin (and ethereum) space, sometimes do not even understand what makes bitcoin valuable, which is proof of work.  

So, yeah, that part of the interview kind of bothered me, and made me say "holy shit" on the inside (and now sharing such "holy shit" assertion with you lovely #nohomo folks).

I actually agree with you, but don't think wrong of him, he is only talking his books. It's not ETH Suisse.
That being said, I cannot dismiss the chance of an Orwellian energy suffering world, were proof of stake can contribute.

In other words, even BTC needs a bitch.

The current model of BTC is not broken, and bitcoin achieves its security and soundness of money and immutability through POW... it is the core... And, sure in 100 years there might be some empirical evidence that justifies some kind of tweak in which the transition from reward based mining to fee based mining is not seeming sufficient to secure the network.... but that is purely hypothetical, at this point, and there is nearly zero evidence to suggest either that bitcoin needs to transition into anything other than POW or the stronger statement that it will transition away from POW... almost laughingly ridiculous, which is the statement that niklas made.  He's just wrong. 

BTC's innovation and paradigm shifting contribution to the world is figuring out how to POW, so why would its whole raison d'etre change?  Makes close to zero senses in reality, but might make sense in terms of some kind of pie in the sky talking point that does not understand wha the fuck bitcoin is.

[Hueristic]

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist. 

Its called Karma.

[xhomerx10]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

Okay but... how about this part?

“After we disarm this pandemic, the focus will shift to girl’s health and education, and UBI,” Dorsey said Tuesday in a tweet, referring to universal basic income. The pledge represents about 28% of his wealth, he said.

Those are feminist issues. And more to the point re: the virus, more men than women are dying from it.

Also also, UBI.

 The reason more men than women are dying from Covid-19 might simply be due to the fact that me are the weaker sex with respect to our immune systems.
Look I'm no pharmacist, I'm just throwing this out there but we might want to look into estrogen therapy for our survival.  Estrogen never killed anybody (directly at least) so why not try it?  Of course any result would be purely anecdotal.


edit: oops I forgot the word women     Freudian slip? 

[xhomerx10]

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist. 

Its called Karma.

 Only if that person were to die though.

[Hueristic]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

He should tweet it will be doled out in BTC.

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist.  

Its called Karma.

 Only if that person were to die though.

Why?

If you sell defective shit and get hurt because of it, its still Karma.

[JayJuanGee]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

Okay but... how about this part?

“After we disarm this pandemic, the focus will shift to girl’s health and education, and UBI,” Dorsey said Tuesday in a tweet, referring to universal basic income. The pledge represents about 28% of his wealth, he said.

Those are feminist issues. And more to the point re: the virus, more men than women are dying from it.

Also also, UBI.

 The reason more men than women are dying from Covid-19 might simply be due to the fact that me are the weaker sex with respect to our immune systems.
Look I'm no pharmacist, I'm just throwing this out there but we might want to look into estrogen therapy for our survival.  Estrogen never killed anybody (directly at least) so why not try it?  Of course any result would be purely anecdotal.


edit: oops I forgot the word women     Freudian slip? 

You also failed/refused to disclaim with #nohomo.

I disapprove of any efforts towards my own conversion, even if it is for my own good.     

[JayJuanGee]

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist.  

Its called Karma.

 Only if that person were to die though.

Why?

If you sell defective shit and get hurt because of it, its still Karma.

Still "karma" is not the word that I thought that I had seen... It is not a bad word to describe a kind of poetic justice, but I thought that I had heard some other perhaps better descriptor.... and maybe I becoming quasi-delusional.... from too much quarantine.... I will admit that much.

[xhomerx10]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

He should tweet it will be doled out in BTC.

I am pretty sure that in recent weeks I had come across a term that describes a kind of poetic justice that occurs when someone becomes a victim of the very thing that s/he has been denying to exist.  

Its called Karma.

 Only if that person were to die though.

Why?

If you sell defective shit and get hurt because of it, its still Karma.

I thought the sum of your actions in this life dictates your fate in the next life.  I'm not Hindu though.
I'd better be careful, if I keep telling people what I'm not, eventually, I will have blown my opsec.

[Hueristic]

I thought the sum of your actions in this life dictates your fate in the next life.  I'm not Hindu though.
I'd better be careful, if I keep telling people what I'm not, eventually, I will have blown my opsec.

Wel I am not going to research it but I have always thought Karma was the same as getting your "Just Deserts".

Added:

Are you thinking of Kali? She is the Hindu Goddess of Death.

[xhomerx10]

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Pledges $1 Billion for Coronavirus Relief

https://time.com/5817083/jack-dorsey-pledges-1-billion-coronavirus-relief/

My favorite billionaire just gave away 28% of his net worth.

Okay but... how about this part?

“After we disarm this pandemic, the focus will shift to girl’s health and education, and UBI,” Dorsey said Tuesday in a tweet, referring to universal basic income. The pledge represents about 28% of his wealth, he said.

Those are feminist issues. And more to the point re: the virus, more men than women are dying from it.

Also also, UBI.

 The reason more men than women are dying from Covid-19 might simply be due to the fact that me are the weaker sex with respect to our immune systems.
Look I'm no pharmacist, I'm just throwing this out there but we might want to look into estrogen therapy for our survival.  Estrogen never killed anybody (directly at least) so why not try it?  Of course any result would be purely anecdotal.


edit: oops I forgot the word women     Freudian slip? 

You also failed/refused to disclaim with #nohomo.

I disapprove of any efforts towards my own conversion, even if it is for my own good.     

 You can still identify as a male.

#nohomo - thanks for reminding me

[xhomerx10]

I thought the sum of your actions in this life dictates your fate in the next life.  I'm not Hindu though.
I'd better be careful, if I keep telling people what I'm not, eventually, I will have blown my opsec.

Wel I am not going to research it but I have always thought Karma was the same as getting your "Just Deserts".

 Thank you!  I've been trying to think of that phrase all day - you've led me to the word comeuppance! 
Boris got his comeuppance
 I can sleep now.

[xhomerx10]

I thought the sum of your actions in this life dictates your fate in the next life.  I'm not Hindu though.
I'd better be careful, if I keep telling people what I'm not, eventually, I will have blown my opsec.

Wel I am not going to research it but I have always thought Karma was the same as getting your "Just Deserts".

Added:

Are you thinking of Kali? She is the Hindu Goddess of Death.

 No.  You're right, what you put out comes back to you.

[JimboToronto]

I'm not Hindu though.
I'd better be careful, if I keep telling people what I'm not, eventually, I will have blown my opsec.

Let me guess. Jehovah's Witness? Scientologist? Hairless Krishna? Southern Baptist?

 

[infofront]

My apologies if this is is not the correct forum for this question -- this is the only thread I follow.  Just trying to get my ducks in order and get a better grasp of what I have in place.

Say I have some BTC that I've owned since 2013 and they have been untouched since that time. 

Which coins/denominations do I have from each BTC I have as it relates to forks?

I know for sure I have 1 BCH, and maybe 1 BSV for each BTC I own, but is there anything else of value I should be looking at in case I'm thinking of doing anything in the next few months?

Thanks in advance!

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